[Ron21]

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[Arneldo]

Thats your opinion, but for me Victor just makes cringe worthy TV. Nothing entertaining about him.

His is miserable, selfish and rude. I'd much rather watch people having fun, playing games and enjoying themselves then having the camera cut to some miserable git checking himself out in the mirrors. Thats why I think it's such a shame that Jade went on Friday. Jade was fun, played games and kept me entertained, without having to resort to picking on people. she loved every minute she was in there, while Victor 9and Jeremy) both said they wanted to go and sit around looking miserable half the time.

[Ron21]

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[XxShortyxX]

Voctor is entertaining, and does make me laugh at times, but he can be so rude to people, even more so to Emilia.

[Arneldo]

Originally posted by Ron21
Arneldo:

Victor has provided the most entertainment via arguments and tension in the house. This is fact, not opinion.

Arguments and tension are good (they also equal higher viewing figures, thus proving this) whilst peace and serenity is bad.

One only has to look to BB4 to see the ratings slump at the dull, normal housemates selected by Endamol in 2003 to see this.

The ratings took a nosedive due to too much peace and serenity, so much so, they even had to send John Tickle back in, their one and only half-entertaining housemate, to try to rectify this.

Anyway, because of the lack of public interest due to the dullards that were Cameron, Gos and Sissy et al, BB introduced us (in 2004) to the unforgettable Kitten, Marco, Victor and ahmed to provide us with some much needed entertainment. Fight night alone boosted BB's ratings (despite being cut considerably) and put BB firmly back on the map. Even the bad press was good press, and you can even see the way they selected the housemates in 2005 to see they wanted more of the same. And they got it. BB6 alone was the greatest series to date, and the conflicts were plentiful, starting on night 1 (Anthony vs Lesley if memory serves).

Jade was non-confrontational, thereby decreasing the likelihood of conflict.

Therefore, the public (for once) got it right.

It's not fact. People have different view on what is and what is not entertaining. I personally don't find a miserable man bitching about his sister entertaining - I find it boring, and cringeworthy.

if you find conflict entertaining, then fair enough. But I prefer to see people in the house having fun, making jokes, and therefor making me laugh. I personally don't want to have to sit and watch two people screaming at each other.

[jacs11]

It's not fact. People have different view on what is and what is not entertaining. I personally don't find a miserable man bitching about his sister entertaining - I find it boring, and cringeworthy.

if you find conflict entertaining, then fair enough. But I prefer to see people in the house having fun, making jokes, and therefor making me laugh. I personally don't want to have to sit and watch two people screaming at each other.


Well said Arneldo!!

[Jackie]

Victors gotta go he's just plain nasty and he thinks he's funny.

[sexy_leigh]

when the show started i actually liked victor i thought he was a good looking guy but now his personality makes him ugly he ruins people's fun, he can't take a bloody joke, he told latoya who is one of my fav to F off and i hate you, if it werent for he idiot sister he wouldve beaten the hell out of latoya over a stupid joke that went too far but the way he was going on was as if they all did the joke to annoy him he thinks the world revolves around him which is not bloody true, i've had enought of him as because of him there are many divides in the house it's flipping ridiculous him and emilia should go!!! ANTHONY or NATHAN 2 WIN!!!!!!

[Ron21]

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[Ron21]

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[jacs11]

Originally posted by Ron21
Before anyone says it: yes, viewing figures NOW are on the decline, but this is due to the fact BB is only on E4 and is therefore not watchable to those without sky or freeview boxes.

Further, Victor is not ''the'' most entertaining housemate, but he IS more entertaining than the current ones.

My stance is still legitimate. Re read my points.

YAWN Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

You have you opinion - I respect it, but dont keep harking on FFS. You can try and change peoples views but if they dont wish to change you must respect them and LEAVE IT BE
Nuff said

[Ron21]

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[jacs11]

You are boring me now.............Talk to the hand lol or apply for question time....its Big Brother get a grip, I'm sure I am not the only person here who DOESNT really care about the viewing fiqures. I watch it for Latoya (shallow? maybe but its entertainment and abit of eye candy in the process)

I have to be a boffin at work so when i get home i like to crash infront of the TV and just veg - not over analize the show and ponder about bl@@*y viewing figures.

[arista]

Ron
Victor has great talent.

But the rest of the time is is Real Evil Nasty.


He is one of the Two
this week.

[Arneldo]

Originally posted by Ron21
Jacs, it wasn't ''well said'' at all.

Allow me to refute:

It is fact: as viewing figures only INCREASE when conflict/arguments ensue, which rather legitimises my position whilst rendering yours null and void.

If people didn't want conflict, then why tune in?

Lol, it is PUBLIC CURIOSITY which dominates viewing figures (in real life and in general), so to say people do not find it entertaining is FALSE as they would simply switch off due to boredom.

People hate to admit what they find enjoyable, but the ratings do not lie.

Go and read again my explanation of why Endamol changed it's tactics in 2004.

That's rubbish. Viewing figures after a big event like fight night or race row does not mean people enjoy watching conflict. These events got more publicity therefore more people were going to tune in to see what all the fuss was about.

People like myself, tune in because we are fans of BB and because we enjoy watching it. Although arguments are to be expected, I, and I'm sure other fans too, don't enjoy watching them. Hence why I would rate BB6 as one of the worst series.

You are simple trying to pass opinion off as fact, which is nonsense.

[Ron21]

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[jacs11]

Ohhhh get a life and chill out!!

Sounds like you need a little liam relief and then you wouldnt be so bothered! lmfao

[Ron21]

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[jacs11]

lol ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

blah blah blah

Oh and have you noticed nobody has agreed with you. The phrase flogging a dead horse jumps to mind


ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

[Ron21]

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[jacs11]

[SmileBabes-x]

Originally posted by Ron21
Victor, the most entertaining housemate, is up for eviction.

If you people had any sense, and foresight, you would vote out Liam and (even though she isn't that bad, but we have little choice) Emillia. (Ideally I would love no housemate to leave, and would rather allow people to vote on weekly tasks, but that's another debate for another day). Anyway, back to Victor...

I keep reading the bad comments about Victor here, yet you people are too foolish to recognise a housemate who provides good footage when you see him.

You are the kind of people who voted out Science in favour of the dullard Orlaith (BB6) or the kind who allowed the Twins to outstay their welcome when they were finally put up for eviction in the last series.

Simply put: You people will make the same mistake by voting out Victor, yet you will be the same people to complain Big Brother has become boring the very next day.

What's worse, you will probably jump on the defence of this post instead of eating some humble pie and realising just how foolhardy the vast majority of you really are.

yes finally somone has sense
KEEP VICTOR IN

[Matt10k]

Not about Victor particularly but in general, the trouble is that some housemates annoy the heck out of you whilst they're in the house, so much so that you don’t care how entertaining they are sometimes, they simply have to go!

Then after they are gone and you don't have to listen to them anymore, you don't hate them so much, the show gets boring and you find yourself thinking- “sh*t... it'd be great if they were back!”

BB listens, brings them back (as they have done with many annoying housemates)... people get annoyed for the same reasons as last time, again begin to find them so irritating they simply have to vote them out and the cycle continues!

[xkatex]

I thought he seemed ok at first but he needs to show some respect towards his sister cos he talks to her like dirt most of the time! I'll be surprised if he stays tomorrow

[halojodie]

I cannot stand Victor. He is so irritating to watch, and he talks rubbish in all the arguments he has. He always thinks he is in the right, and doesn't listen to anyone else. He needs to go, along with his sister, who i also strongly dislike