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Old 22-06-2008, 08:42 PM #1
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Default Gangsters Vs B*tches Double Standards Again?

Can anyone please tell me why one HM was ripped to pieces for using gangster talk yet another HM regularly uses the term Bitches when referring to women and this isn't an issue?

I accept it is an americanism but why should that make it any more acceptable?
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who you talking about darnel...
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I know it annoys me so much. But I have to pity him because he is obviously so incompetent that he can't tell the difference between American slang and British insults.
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I know it annoys me so much. But I have to pity him because he is obviously so incompetent that he can't tell the difference between American slang and British insults.
I agree but it is up to BB to tell him that.
Just imagine if it were the other way round?
There would be uproar!
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No, you're getting this all totally wrong. Alex was chucked out for threatening other housemates, not because she talked 'gangster' as you put it. Darnell is being insulting (to some people....) however he is NOT being threatening. If Big brother chucked everyone out who insulted each other there would be no-one left.
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who you talking about darnel...
Haven't used names as i want people to see this topic before it gets moved
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No, you're getting this all totally wrong. Alex was chucked out for threatening other housemates, not because she talked 'gangster' as you put it. Darnell is being insulting (to some people....) however he is NOT being threatening. If Big brother chucked everyone out who insulted each other there would be no-one left.
I'm not getting this wrong and obviously i'm well aware of the threatening behaviour which was totally unacceptable.

My point is that in this Country the term B*tch is seen as a derogatory and offensive term used to discribe women
and yet appears to be acceptable in the house.

I think this is total double standards and that BB should make him aware of the English definition.

That's all i meant
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I think it's a matter of opinion. If I were in the house with him and he referred to me as a bitch, then I'd pull him up about it.

But, obviously the housemates in there with him don't have a problem with it, or they haven't heard him saying it.
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I think it's a matter of opinion. If I were in the house with him and he referred to me as a bitch, then I'd pull him up about it.

But, obviously the housemates in there with him don't have a problem with it, or they haven't heard him saying it.
Or is everyone tiptoeing around him?
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No, you're getting this all totally wrong. Alex was chucked out for threatening other housemates, not because she talked 'gangster' as you put it. Darnell is being insulting (to some people....) however he is NOT being threatening. If Big brother chucked everyone out who insulted each other there would be no-one left.
I'm not getting this wrong and obviously i'm well aware of the threatening behaviour which was totally unacceptable.

My point is that in this Country the term B*tch is seen as a derogatory and offensive term used to discribe women
and yet appears to be acceptable in the house.

I think this is total double standards and that BB should make him aware of the English definition.

That's all i meant
Yeah, I totally agree, but think about how many people on big brother have called each other a bitch, it's just somthing people say, yes it is offensive, but so are things that lots of other house mates have said......what I'm saying is they can't chuck someone out for calling someone bitch
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I think it's a matter of opinion. If I were in the house with him and he referred to me as a bitch, then I'd pull him up about it.

But, obviously the housemates in there with him don't have a problem with it, or they haven't heard him saying it.
Or is everyone tiptoeing around him?
I'd say no. I don't think people will tiptoe around him. He's quite brash, so I think people would tend to say to him if he was being offensive.

The other thing is who he calls 'bitches'. If he uses it as a general term for women, it's slightly less offensive than if he uses it on one of the girls in the house.
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its one rule for one and one rule for another for some people.
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I'm not sure it is. I don't think it's generally an offensive term. It shows him up as being a bit of a dick to be honest. It doesn't degrade women in any way.
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I think it's a matter of opinion. If I were in the house with him and he referred to me as a bitch, then I'd pull him up about it.

But, obviously the housemates in there with him don't have a problem with it, or they haven't heard him saying it.
Or is everyone tiptoeing around him?
I'd say no. I don't think people will tiptoe around him. He's quite brash, so I think people would tend to say to him if he was being offensive.

The other thing is who he calls 'bitches'. If he uses it as a general term for women, it's slightly less offensive than if he uses it on one of the girls in the house.
I don't think he is using it on individuals. As i said earlier its anamericanism as for example is the word f*ggot,
Would this be acceptable?
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I'm not sure what word you said there. The filter has removed it.
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I'm not sure what word you said there. The filter has removed it.
Sorry. I've altered it
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Ok, I see that word, and it's a whole different thing.

He wouldn't be allowed to say that, because it is offensive.

I think the issue here is whether calling women "bitches" is offensive. I don't find it to be so. Maybe you should set up a poll in here to see what the general opinion is. That might be interesting.
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Ok, I see that word, and it's a whole different thing.

He wouldn't be allowed to say that, because it is offensive.

I think the issue here is whether calling women "bitches" is offensive. I don't find it to be so. Maybe you should set up a poll in here to see what the general opinion is. That might be interesting.
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Ok, I see that word, and it's a whole different thing.

He wouldn't be allowed to say that, because it is offensive.

I think the issue here is whether calling women "bitches" is offensive. I don't find it to be so. Maybe you should set up a poll in here to see what the general opinion is. That might be interesting.
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yes thats not a great idea. .
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Ok, I see that word, and it's a whole different thing.

He wouldn't be allowed to say that, because it is offensive.

I think the issue here is whether calling women "bitches" is offensive. I don't find it to be so. Maybe you should set up a poll in here to see what the general opinion is. That might be interesting.
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yes thats not a great idea. .
Hi. I've been waing for you to post another interesting Poll today?

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Ok, I see that word, and it's a whole different thing.

He wouldn't be allowed to say that, because it is offensive.

I think the issue here is whether calling women "bitches" is offensive. I don't find it to be so. Maybe you should set up a poll in here to see what the general opinion is. That might be interesting.
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I'll post one then.
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Ok, I see that word, and it's a whole different thing.

He wouldn't be allowed to say that, because it is offensive.

I think the issue here is whether calling women "bitches" is offensive. I don't find it to be so. Maybe you should set up a poll in here to see what the general opinion is. That might be interesting.
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I'll post one then.
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Ok, I see that word, and it's a whole different thing.

He wouldn't be allowed to say that, because it is offensive.

I think the issue here is whether calling women "bitches" is offensive. I don't find it to be so. Maybe you should set up a poll in here to see what the general opinion is. That might be interesting.
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Hi. I've been waing for you to post another interesting Poll today? Your topic's quite high up on the list at the moment isn't it

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