[Xander]

With a spectacular end to the Beijing 2008 Games, do you think its right that the games should be held in the U.K?

Personally I'm against this for many reasons;
I don't think will we deliver, we promised so much for these games and already, Venues have had to be changed, costs gone up, building been delayed and who knows what else, compared to Beijing they have had little problems compared to what problems we have had.

[Ross]

We're in 2008.


It's in 2012, obviously alot of changes are going to be made. I don't think we'll here anything 'official' till about 2010 personally.

I think we should host it as we have done spectacular in Beijing.

[Amy]

I'm really proud to be having the games. I expect bejing had problems, just we did not hear that much about it.

[Hugo]

No way, I'd be suprised if the Stadiums even built by 2012

[Sam]

It's going to be a hard act to follow, yes. But like commentators have said, we'll have our own take on the Olympics.. which could just be code for "our budget is lower so we're going for a cheaper alternative". I'm proud and excited that GB is hosting the olympics and I think far too many people are negative about something so good.

[Spike]

I was watching a show the other night and I didn't realise how many problems the Beijing olympics faced. it was nearly cancelled on a few times so it doesn't really matter that we are facing a few problems.
We have 4 years to get ready for the 2012 olympics and I think we will deliver. Can't wait for 2012 now

[rayheartbliss]

i watched on this documentery, it said that the world is going to end in 2012.

anyone seen it?

[Fom]

Originally posted by Xander
With a spectacular end to the Beijing 2008 Games, do you think its right that the games should be held in the U.K?

Personally I'm against this for many reasons;
I don't think will we deliver, we promised so much for these games and already, Venues have had to be changed, costs gone up, building been delayed and who knows what else, compared to Beijing they have had little problems compared to what problems we have had.

There is little things about the olympics I dislike... such as cutting the arts fund to fund the stadium. Yeh its annoying but this will do so much for our country! The olympics wont be in just London, athletes will be staying all over the country. And me seeing first hand what the commonwealth games did for Manchester... it does so much for the surrounding area. The area around what is now Manchester City's ground has improved so much due to the games.
I believe fully that england will deliver, I believe that we can deliver a more individually and exciting opening and closing ceremony, and it will only be a weeks time when scandals come out about how the closing ceremony was faked in some way or someone wasnt pretty enough to be in it.

The opening and closing ceremony for the Commonwealth games were actually good. And very well organised, my sister got to be in it and she was practicing for a year ahead of the closing ceremony!

The olympics in 2012 is gonna be the Commonwealth games on steroids!

Youtube video

[MR.K!]

as far as im aware the olympic site actually began construction early, massive funding and based on our segment of the beijing closing ceremony i really look forward to 2012 and i KNOW we will deliver and impress the world. you lot are just going to have faith in your contry.

and im actually begining to warm up to the 2012 logo

[Conor]

Xander I agree. The UK spells disaster for the Olympics. I'd be surprised to see it come out with it's reputation currently after 2012. The UK should just pass it on and forget about everything. That little preview with the bus this morning was extremely cringy. Apart from that, Its the PERFECT place for terrorists to target.

It's also pretty obvious the ceremonies, graphics, venues and logo aren't going to live up to this year already.

We should be ashamed for bidding. Not celebrating it. It's gonna be worse than Athens

[Xander]

Originally posted by Conor
Xander I agree. The UK spells disaster for the Olympics. I'd be surprised to see it come out with it's reputation currently after 2012. The UK should just pass it on and forget about everything. That little preview with the bus this morning was extremely cringy. Apart from that, Its the PERFECT place for terrorists to target.

It's also pretty obvious the ceremonies, graphics, venues and logo aren't going to live up to this year already.

We should be ashamed for bidding. Not celebrating it. It's going to be worse than Athens

The terrorist threat is a major issue for the UK, it wasn't in Beijing but it always has been a issue in the UK. Just think the Olympics are a prime target now for terrorist groups and no doubt something will be foiled.
Our planned venues are nothing that makes you go WOW. Our stadium is inspired by a bowl.

[Spike]

Work on the olympics has started 3months early, so we are on target.
It doesn't matter if 2012 is as good as the Beijing Olympics, they are our Olympics and we should celebrate it rather than concentrating on the negatives
and we can't use terrorists as another negative because if we do we are letting them win

[Fom]

Originally posted by Conor
Xander I agree. The UK spells disaster for the Olympics. I'd be surprised to see it come out with it's reputation currently after 2012. The UK should just pass it on and forget about everything. That little preview with the bus this morning was extremely cringy. Apart from that, Its the PERFECT place for terrorists to target.

It's also pretty obvious the ceremonies, graphics, venues and logo aren't going to live up to this year already.

We should be ashamed for bidding. Not celebrating it. It's going to be worse than Athens

What a defeatist attitude! Do you give up on everything or something?
There would be nothing I would hate more that to give in and pass it on to someone else! That to me sounds like a failure and anyone that doesnt try and just gives up is a failure. Thats not what the UK is about, we have our own story to tell the world, our royalty, our growth throughout the year.
Some people need to learn to respect their own country, if you dont like it here please go somewhere else. The UK is my home and I believe that it can deliver 100%

Do you go to art galleries? Do you go to the theatre? If you do then you will know what people in the UK are capable of and we have extreme talent and we can make our own fantastic opening ceremony. Bejing was good but I think London will be more interesting.
I am actually just quite annoyed at the defeatist approach you have to life, I hope you are not gonna get a job where you have to make brave decisions or stick up for yourself because to me it sounds like if someone is better than you, you just give in! So what if bejiing is better than us? This is a chance for the country to come together, show the world who we are and what we do. Dont think of this as a contest but a chance and a celebratin of UK Culture. Dont know what UK Culture is? Try going to see a film or go to the theatre or to a gallery, its all their mate. Just open your eyes.

And what are you on about terrorists werent a threat to Bejing? Are you JOKING me?! Did you not see the torch relay?!

[Xander]

Originally posted by Spike
Work on the olympics has started 3months early, so we are on target.
It doesn't matter if 2012 is as good as the Beijing Olympics, they are our Olympics and we should celebrate it rather than concentrating on the negatives
and we can't use terrorists as another negative because if we do we are letting them win

But there will always be the threat of Terrorism in London, you can hide away the fact that it isn't a issue.
Up until tis moment since London got the bid, I have failed to be impressed. Each Olympics should be better than the previous in terms of opening and closing ceremonies, venues etc..., and so far that has been the case.
I just can't get excited or celebrate a Olympics that is unworthy to be in our country. And what does our coutnry have to celebrate, gangs, crimes, shootings, terrorism...?

[MR.K!]

Originally posted by Conor
Xander I agree. The UK spells disaster for the Olympics. I'd be surprised to see it come out with it's reputation currently after 2012. The UK should just pass it on and forget about everything. That little preview with the bus this morning was extremely cringy. Apart from that, Its the PERFECT place for terrorists to target.

It's also pretty obvious the ceremonies, graphics, venues and logo aren't going to live up to this year already.

We should be ashamed for bidding. Not celebrating it. It's going to be worse than Athens

#1 We were closen over Paris, Madrid, New York and Moscow for a reason for a good reason.

#2 even if we wanted to pass the olympics we couldnt

#3 weve been doing years of planning for the bid and the planning / stadium design / athletete village and olympic site

[Fom]

Originally posted by Xander

But there will always be the threat of Terrorism in London, you can hide away the fact that it isn't a issue.
Up until tis moment since London got the bid, I have failed to be impressed. Each Olympics should be better than the previous in terms of opening and closing ceremonies, venues etc..., and so far that has been the case.
I just can't get excited or celebrate a Olympics that is unworthy to be in our country. And what does our coutnry have to celebrate, gangs, crimes, shootings, terrorism...?

Bejing was targeted so bad by Tibet protestors! So if they can keep them out from desroying the games I am sure we can do the same for terrorists. Its not an excuse and we shouldnt be letting them win. Saying we should stop the games because we are scared means we are giving in.
We need to live our lives as normal as we can and ignore the fact terrorists exist, terrorists want terror. Dont give them the luxury of it actually happening. Terrorists dont scare me and I believe that we have enough security to make sure nothing happens.

[Spike]

Originally posted by Xander

But there will always be the threat of Terrorism in London, you can hide away the fact that it isn't a issue.
Up until tis moment since London got the bid, I have failed to be impressed. Each Olympics should be better than the previous in terms of opening and closing ceremonies, venues etc..., and so far that has been the case.
I just can't get excited or celebrate a Olympics that is unworthy to be in our country.

There is a threat of terrorism but that shouldn't stop us
Each olympics is different and are all good in there own way. Just because we are on less of a budget that doesn't mean it will be bad.
The venues chosen is celebrating the UK, why go and build new venues which will cost more money when we already have these venues with bags of history to show the world.
People have 4 years to get excited and until we see the opening and closing ceremony we can't compare it to Beijing or any other olympics hame. It will be along time until this country hosts the games again, its special to host the games so instead of being negative try celebrating that London will be the focus of the entire world in 4 years time

[andyman]

blah! I want fifa to get off there anti-uk ass and pick england to host the world cup!

[Shaun]

The only people who are cynical here about 2012 are so, because they probably read too much BBC Have Your Say forums.

Give it a bloody chance. Judge it in 4 years time, not now.

[Fom]

Originally posted by andyman
blah! I want fifa to get off there anti-uk ass and pick england to host the world cup!

That would be awesome.

[andyman]

Ffs! Just hope there are no god dam drippy indie/rock/blah blah bands to open the london games! So lame.

[Willz]

Originally posted by andyman
blah! I want fifa to get off there anti-uk ass and pick england to host the world cup!

Yeah that would be class. Maybe in 2018!

[Sam]

Originally posted by Shaun
The only people who are cynical here about 2012 are so, because they probably read too much BBC Have Your Say forums.

Give it a bl***y chance. Judge it in 4 years time, not now.

Brilliant post.

Too many people are so cynical.
This is the olympics and it's coming to London. Isn't that something brilliant enough to celebrate? Cheer up people and give it a chance.

[Spike]

Originally posted by andyman
blah! I want fifa to get off there anti-uk ass and pick england to host the world cup!

that would be great, I really want England to host the world cup

[Conor]

Originally posted by Fom

What a defeatist attitude! Do you give up on everything or something?
There would be nothing I would hate more that to give in and pass it on to someone else! That to me sounds like a failure and anyone that doesnt try and just gives up is a failure. Thats not what the UK is about, we have our own story to tell the world, our royalty, our growth throughout the year.
Some people need to learn to respect their own country, if you dont like it here please go somewhere else. The UK is my home and I believe that it can deliver 100%

Do you go to art galleries? Do you go to the theatre? If you do then you will know what people in the UK are capable of and we have extreme talent and we can make our own fantastic opening ceremony. Bejing was good but I think London will be more interesting.
I am actually just quite annoyed at the defeatist approach you have to life, I hope you are not going to get a job where you have to make brave decisions or stick up for yourself because to me it sounds like if someone is better than you, you just give in! So what if bejiing is better than us? This is a chance for the country to come together, show the world who we are and what we do. Dont think of this as a contest but a chance and a celebratin of UK Culture. Dont know what UK Culture is? Try going to see a film or go to the theatre or to a gallery, its all their mate. Just open your eyes.

And what are you on about terrorists werent a threat to Bejing? Are you JOKING me?! Did you not see the torch relay?!

- I don't give up on everything. I just give up on this nation.

- It would be less embarrassing to give it away than to have to watch it.

- I don't feel I need to respect this country. I can happily and proudly say I hate the UK and Ireland without hesitation. There's nothing that makes me want to celebrate it. When I go on holiday I feel much more at home. No frowns or glares by passer by's in the street. Just open arms and smiles. No horrible foods. Instead there are rich flavours and beautiful exotic dishes. There is rarely rain or grey skys. Just warm seas and a beating sun. There's a few reasons of the top of my head. Is it any wonder half my family have moved across the world

- Don't worry. As soon as I'm old enough and have a job I'll never come back to the UK unless I am needed or there's something wrong with a family member.

- Yes. I have been to art galleries in the UK. They are all filled with Italian and American and European paintings and sculptures.

- The UK may have talent, but judging by the current 2012 plans there isn't much talent in the British Olympics design and culture board.

- I don't have a defeatist approach to life. It isn't fair to judge that by one small paragraph in a thread on a forum. I live a perfectly happy un depressed life with little or no worries.

- No I don't give in if someone is better than me. Infact I like the believe personally that I am better than alot of people. I know perfectly well how to stand up to myself. Yet again I don't know how your able to judge or determine that from a few words on a forum.

- There isn't much to show the world what the UK is about. It will make it even harder with the fact most of the rest of the world hates the UK.

- I'm aware what UK culture is. I'm also aware of many other cultures, and compared to them the UK's is pathetic. Minus invading other countries out of their free will and having a pointless royal family there isn't much to boast.

- As I mentioned above, most art galleries are filled with European and American work, just as many cinema's are filled with mostly American movies.

- Terrorists in Beijing was a much lower rate. I wouldn't even call it terrorism. It was pro campaigning and protesting, not terrorism. After the US and Arabian countries the UK is the biggest Terrorist hot spot, and the biggest event in the world is screaming to them.

tbh, I don't know what any of it has to do with the Olympics failing or succession in 2012 written above, but here we are. My answers. I just hope we can put this arguing behind us and respect our differences.