[rediscool]

I'm not saying I'm a fan or anything but I don't quite understand all this Lisa hatred. I haven't actually SEEN any strong examples of her manipulation. I've heard the housemates say it lots but I haven't seen it. Maybe it's because I'm not watching live, or maybe I'm just blind. To be honest I dislike Karly more, which is a change from at the beginning...

Any examples anyone?

[Marc]

I don't dislike her as much as I did a few weeks ago, but I don't like her constantly hating on Freddie like how she always picks up on the fact that he's rich or has money in his family! and her voice is kind of annoying

[HELLIWONTGO]

Well, she has been warned twice about her attitude so that must mean something, although I have seen enough of half-wit and his singing to last the rest of my life!

[arsenalforever]

Originally posted by HELLIWONTGO
Well, she has been warned twice about her attitude so that must mean something, although I have seen enough of half-wit and his singing to last the rest of my life!

she isn't as bad as Noirin is

at least with Lisa she;s loyal Noirin isn't

[yousoboo!]

Lisa stands at the sidelines and eggs on people into having arguments. Then she sits back and enjoys watching the carnage. Plus she was hideous to Freddie during the first 4 weeks of the series.

[Josy]

Originally posted by yousoboo!
Lisa stands at the sidelines and eggs people into having arguments. Then she sits back and enjoys watching the carnage. Plus she was hideous to Freddie during the first 4 weeks of the series.

Agree

[arsenalforever]

Originally posted by yousoboo!
Lisa stands at the sidelines and eggs on people into having arguments. Then she sits back and enjoys watching the carnage. Plus she was hideous to Freddie during the first 4 weeks of the series.

But at leasts she doesn't betray her gang

[Josy]

Originally posted by arsenalforever

But at leasts she doesn't betray her gang

She will if she needs to without a second thought.

Lisa only cares about Lisa

[arsenalforever]

Originally posted by josycee

She will if she needs to without a second thought.

Lisa only cares about Lisa

So what about Noirin?
I'm surprised no one fears her

[Bombardier]

She can be very, very personal in some of the tactics she uses in an argument. Not once has Freddie brought someone's background up as a means of gaining leverage, freezing them out, or making them feel bad. Lisa is toxic in this respect and it makes it look like she's got a real chip on her shoulder.

Whenever there is a situation or some new information, Lisa can quickly turn something that might resolve itself naturally OR EVEN IN A FUNNY OR ENTERTAINING WAY and turn it into a mess of conflict. She starts with little comments like "oo wots freddie done now? has e shat himself?" She can rapidly polarize people in any situation by pretending that she is responding naturally and honestly to looming conflict, when in reality her only aim is to escalate conflict by any means necessary.

[Angus]

Originally posted by HELLIWONTGO
Well, she has been warned twice about her attitude so that must mean something, although I have seen enough of half-wit and his singing to last the rest of my life!

I despise able-bodied scrounging 41 yearold layabouts who are thick as sh*t, and totally unemployable, smoke like chimneys and don't have a decent bone in their body - Lisa is a waste of space. She is long term unemployed so
how does she pay for her cigs and tattoos? From taxpayers' money that's how. And BB thought we would find the raddled old hag "entertaining"? Wish it was her up this week

[Josy]

Originally posted by arsenalforever

So what about Noirin?
I'm surprised no one fears her

Noirin doesnt bitch half as much as Karly or Lisa though.

[Angus]

Originally posted by Marcjswp
I don't dislike her as much as I did a few weeks ago, but I don't like her constantly hating on Freddie like how she always picks up on the fact that he's rich or has money in his family! and her voice is kind of annoying

She's jealous as ***** - such a loser

[yousoboo!]

Originally posted by Bombardier
She can be very, very personal in some of the tactics she uses in an argument. Not once has Freddie brought someone's background up as a means of gaining leverage, freezing them out, or making them feel bad. Lisa is toxic in this respect and it makes it look like she's got a real chip on her shoulder.

Whenever there is a situation or some new information, Lisa can quickly turn something that might resolve itself naturally OR EVEN IN A FUNNY OR ENTERTAINING WAY and turn it into a mess of conflict. She starts with little comments like "oo wots freddie done now? has e shat himself?" She can rapidly polarize people in any situation by pretending that she is responding naturally and honestly to looming conflict, when in reality her only aim is to escalate conflict by any means necessary.

nice post

[arsenalforever]

Originally posted by josycee

Noirin doesnt bitch half as much as Karly or Lisa though.

Noirin bitching is far worse though

[Josy]

Originally posted by arsenalforever

Noirin bitching is far worse though

You really think so arse?

Give me an example

[arsenalforever]

Her Bunnygate rant at Siavash and Freddie was evil
Also her backstabbing Marcus to Team lisa

[Niamh.]

Originally posted by arsenalforever
Her Bunnygate rant at Siavash and Freddie was evil
Also her backstabbing Marcus to Team lisa

I bet Noirin is really realising now what a big mistake she made then and that Siavash was spot on!!!!

[Josy]

Originally posted by arsenalforever
Her Bunnygate rant at Siavash and Freddie was evil
Also her backstabbing Marcus to Team lisa

Ok i see were your coming from with the bunny gate thing but i still think Karlys bitching is a lot nastier, she does it constantly its as if shes only ever happy when shes being nasty about someone, and have you seen some of the sour vile looks she gives the other hms

[Niamh.]

Originally posted by josycee

Ok i see were your coming from with the bunny gate thing but i still think Karlys bitching is a lot nastier, she does it constantly its as if shes only ever happy when shes being nasty about someone, and have you seen some of the sour vile looks she gives the other hms

I agree, while the Bunnygate incident was bad (especially since Siavash is my fav!!) atleast Noirin apologised to Siavash. Lisa & Karly never apologise for being bitches, they seem to think they are always right and that their bitchiness is justified!!!

[yousoboo!]

Noirin is totally evil. But I really want to see Lisa sit on the bench smoking furiously realising that her plan has exploded in her face come friday night. Get Karly out!!!

[Insane_Spirit]

Originally posted by angus58

I despise able-bodied scrounging 41 yearold layabouts who are thick as sh*t, and totally unemployable, smoke like chimneys and don't have a decent bone in their body - Lisa is a waste of space. She is long term unemployed so
how does she pay for her cigs and tattoos? From taxpayers' money that's how. And BB thought we would find the raddled old hag "entertaining"? Wish it was her up this week

Guess she and her situation has struck a nerve with you Angus58!?

As to how she pays for her cigs and tattoos - she's over 40 years old...the tatts may have been done over 20 years ago for all we know, so that topic is mute, however the cigs/tobacco is a different matter. Clearly she would smoke sh*te through a dirty dishcloth, which leads me to believe she doesn't do without on the 'outside'.

Assuming she only smokes tobacco roll-ups, that would cost her around Ł15 per week (depending on the type of baccy used) - which is a significant chunk out of unemployment benefit (Jobseeker's Allowance) of Ł64.30 per week (Direct.gov figures for single 25 years old & over).

Fundamentally, there is NO reason why she should be long term unemployed. She isn't physically restricted and her lack of intellect wouldn't prevent her from doing a menial manual job, such as packing vegetables or cleaning, for example.

Which means, IMO, she is long-term unemployed through choice because she's LAZY!!!

AND......

To claim benefit as long term unemployed (Jobseeker's Allowance), you MUST be:[*]Actively seeking work; and[*]Available for work

Lisa is clearly neither at this moment in time!

Questions need to be asked as to why she has been allowed to remain unemployed and claiming benefits for so long AND a closer look into her lifestyle - e.g. smoking/drinking to clarify how she funds it, to be certain she isn't 'doing the double' at the tax-payers expense! (Bad enough the bloody politicians are getting away with it!)

She can be very, very personal in some of the tactics she uses in an argument. Not once has Freddie brought someone's background up as a means of gaining leverage, freezing them out, or making them feel bad. Lisa is toxic in this respect and it makes it look like she's got a real chip on her shoulder.

Whenever there is a situation or some new information, Lisa can quickly turn something that might resolve itself naturally OR EVEN IN A FUNNY OR ENTERTAINING WAY and turn it into a mess of conflict. She starts with little comments like "oo wots freddie done now? has e shat himself?" She can rapidly polarize people in any situation by pretending that she is responding naturally and honestly to looming conflict, when in reality her only aim is to escalate conflict by any means necessary.

[dbfs]

Lets see how long it is before Lisa and Karly start on dogface when she pulls even further away from them. the only people Lisa says anything pleasant about is within her little click. Actually thinking about it they remind me of Patti and Selma on the Simpsons - sitting at the bloody bus stop all day and puffing away.
Marcus actually had it spot on last night when he said she isnt intelligent enough to have come into the house with a game plan, she re schemes after every nomination for that week i.e. lets get dogface over in our corner now kris has gone. Its hilarious that she thinks she can get Siavash into their group as he's apparently not in any group.
A lot on here dont like Marcus but if you take away the chasing of Noirin hes actually sussed out the whole of the house I believe it was him that said their isnt two groups there is one group and other housemates that are more intelligent and think for themselves just happens that they think similar things.

[HalfwitFTW]

What I dislike most about her is she thinks she deserves respect from everyone when she has very little respect for others.

Many times she has been shown speaking to Freddie in a very rude manner but when he attempts to respond back, she tells him to 'shut up', saying 'stay out of it','don't speak to me with that voice' or 'don't give me attitude'... as if she's his mother.

When Sree and Marcus had that argument over Marcus mimicking Sree's accent, Lisa got involved and butted her nose in, and sat quietly whilst Noirin and Kris butted their noses in as well. But when Freddie attempted to say something, she shouted him down, telling him to shut up and not get involved!

She appears to have calmed down a bit lately with her treatment towards Freddie, but she still has a very rude way of speaking about her. She HAS shown she can have a nice side, for example she was very nice with Sree, but she needs to show it more if she wants to be liked.

[28thapril]

Originally posted by arsenalforever

But at leasts she doesn't betray her gang

Not many real faithfulls left now only karly

Dogface is being swayed and charlie well he's charlie!!!

Lisa is really struggling at the mo to keep a grip on things