[Claymores]

Sorry to ask a daft question, and I don't say it to be evil in any way - but isn't being married to your cousin illegal and incest - the law about that that being based on common sense that the shared genes are liable to lead to congenital deformities in any offspring?

I really don't mean to offend anyone - I just had it in my head them's the laws

[Beastie]

i think you are allowed to be married to your cousin!

[Novo]

Didn't she get married in another country?

[HELLIWONTGO]

I say old chap, the royal family has been inbred for years and there's nothing wrong with them, hang about I need to rethink that one, what!

[chriss619]

It would be illegal to marry your brother or sister or someone like that but I think its okay to marry your cousin.

[HalfwitFTW]

Is she Pakistani?

In Pakistan it is very common to marry cousins.

In England don't think it is illegal.... as someone mentioned, it was common practice with the Royal family!

[Rozartytype]

It's perfectly legal to marry one;s cousin.

[Claymores]

Thanks for replies - I honestly had it in my head that it was illegal to marry 1st cousin, 2nd cousin all bets off.

Again I meant no offence to anyone in this situation - just a wrong piece of info in my head.............now corrected and can relax.

[HalfwitFTW]

According to this:

http://www.weddingguideuk.com/articl...prohibited.asp

'Marriage of Cousins:

Despite the long list of degrees of forbidden relationship, you can marry a cousin (courtesy of Henry VIII who changed the law to marry his cousin!). However, it would be sensible for you both to consult your GP to ensure that there are no factors in your family's health records that would make your decision to have children inadvisable on medical grounds.'

[Claymores]

Originally posted by HalfwitFTW
According to this:

http://www.weddingguideuk.com/articl...prohibited.asp

'Marriage of Cousins:

Despite the long list of degrees of forbidden relationship, you can marry a cousin (courtesy of Henry VIII who changed the law to marry his cousin!). However, it would be sensible for you both to consult your GP to ensure that there are no factors in your family's health records that would make your decision to have children inadvisable on medical grounds.'

You can always rely on someone to find the definitive answer

Thank you

[Clockers]

I am Muslim and I think the part of our culture where cousins get married is beyond *****ed up and disgusting.

I am dead against it and always have been, and pissed off lot of people within my community regarding this issue.

[Claymores]

Originally posted by Clockers
I am Muslim and I think the part of our culture where cousins get married is beyond *****ed up and disgusting.

I am dead against it and always have been, and p****d off lot of people within my community regarding this issue.

Interesting to hear you be forthright about the notion. Arranged marriages, particularly to a cousin just sounds all wrong to me. (And I'm not intolerant to other cultures in general I can assure you)

[HalfwitFTW]

Originally posted by Clockers
I am Muslim and I think the part of our culture where cousins get married is beyond *****ed up and disgusting.

I am dead against it and always have been, and p****d off lot of people within my community regarding this issue.

You're a Muslim? But your Prophet Mohammad married his cousin... Zaynab Bint Jahsh.

Bit of a contradiction innit... calling yourself a Muslim then disagreeing with the actions of your own Prophet?

[Claymores]

Originally posted by HELLIWONTGO
I say old chap, the royal family has been inbred for years and there's nothing wrong with them, hang about I need to rethink that one, what!

Never did Phil the Greek or Chaz any harm eh?!

[Cybele]

Originally posted by HalfwitFTW

You're a Muslim? But your Prophet Mohammad married his cousin... Zaynab Bint Jahsh.

Bit of a contradiction innit... calling yourself a Muslim then disagreeing with the actions of your own Prophet?

Why is it that if a Christian had said they didn't agree with a practice in their religion, no one would say a word but you felt free to judge this person for not blindly following everything in his? Seems a bit racist to me.

[HalfwitFTW]

Originally posted by Cybele

Why is it that if a Christian had said they didn't agree with a practice in their religion, no one would say a word but you felt free to judge this person for not blindly following everything in his? Seems a bit racist to me.

Erm first of all Islam isn't a 'race' so how am I racist. Not to mention I am ex-Muslim myself and have Muslim relatives so I'm definitely not 'racist'.

If Christianity was being discussed then I would talk about Christianity, but since it's not why even bring that into it?

[Cybele]

Originally posted by HalfwitFTW

Erm first of all Islam isn't a 'race' so how am I racist. Not to mention I am ex-Muslim myself and have Muslim relatives so I'm definitely not racist.

If Christianity was being discussed then I would talk about Christianity, but since it's not why even bring that into it?

Because I highly doubt you would have said the same thing to someone who was Christian and saying something similar about the Christian faith. In fact, I have seen people on this forum say things like that and NO ONE says anything about it. I don't care if you "used to be" muslim or not. That is sort of like saying that you can't be racist because you have a black friend. And yes, I do use the term racist because most people who are muslim (not all... but most) are not white british people and are, unfortunately, singled out by their ethnicity.

[HalfwitFTW]

Originally posted by Cybele

Because I highly doubt you would have said the same thing to someone who was Christian and saying something similar about the Christian faith. In fact, I have seen people on this forum say things like that and NO ONE says anything about it. I don't care if you "used to be" muslim or not. That is sort of like saying that you can't be racist because you have a black friend. And yes, I do use the term racist because most people who are muslim (not all... but most) are not white british people and are, unfortunately, singled out by their ethnicity.

Well my sister is Muslim as are my nieces and nephews... you honestly think I am racist towards them? No I'm not.

And yes I do question Christians about their beliefs, it's just people don't discuss religion on this forum and this is the only time I have seen someone openly talking about their religion on here.

I do frequent other religion-based forums where I do debate with Christians/Jews/Hindus/atheists etc.

FYI: Debating or questioning someone about their beliefs doesn't equal racist or prejudiced.

[Clockers]

Originally posted by Claymores

Interesting to hear you be forthright about the notion. Arranged marriages, particularly to a cousin just sounds all wrong to me. (And I'm not intolerant to other cultures in general I can assure you)

Nowadays arrange marriages are not the forceful issue many non muslims think. It more of a meet and match issue, like a dating agency and if couples feel they are compatiable then they take it to the next level and if not, they move on.

Regarding the issue from other gentleman saying Mohamed married his cousin; my issues dont stem from religion it stems from basic moral standard. First cousins share the same grandparents, that is a bit too close for home. My own cousins are like my brothers and sister, cannot invisage *****ing them. Then there is the freaks of nature produced through the off spring; I remember this guy at my university who told me his parents are first cousins and it made me understand why he had facial hair all the way to under his eyelids.

[Simone.]

I think it's weird to marry your cousin, when she said I was just like what!?

For one thing if you have children with your family or whatever can't they be born with like deformaties because the genes are too similiar or something.

[HalfwitFTW]

So Cybele you think I am a racist when:


A) Islam is not even a race

and

B) I didn't even say anything offensive, just asked a genuine question out of curiousity

If you think I am racist because of that, then you my friend are an idiot.

It is people like you that are making political correctness go out of control in our world today.... trying to stifle free speech and trying to limit opinions and debates.

[Claymores]

Originally posted by Clockers

Nowadays arrange marriages are not the forceful issue many non muslims think. It more of a meet and match issue, like a dating agency and if couples feel they are compatiable then they take it to the next level and if not, they move on.

Regarding the issue from other gentleman saying Mohamed married his cousin; my issues dont stem from religion it stems from basic moral standard. First cousins share the same grandparents, that is a bit too close for home. My own cousins are like my brothers and sister, cannot invisage *****ing them. Then there is the freaks of nature produced through the off spring; I remember this guy at my university who told me his parents are first cousins and it made me understand why he had facial hair all the way to under his eyelids.

Cheers for teaching me - again I apologise for lack of insight........the Region where I come from has very few non-whites/other Religions so trying to understand 21st Century Muslim culture/ethnticity is difficult. I have no religion but fully support FOR EXAMPLE - that Catholics can accept abortion and homosexuality but still be Catholic - so I found the point about "the Prophet" invalid and behind what you say.

[ange7]

The Royal family married off their cousins for years and didn't seem to do any har.... oops wait.. what?

[Cristina]

Marrying your cousin is indeed legal in UK and I should know.

Also cousin marriage does not just happen with indians here white people who married their cousins over the years:

Queen Victoria.
Rudy Giuliani
Charles Darwin
Albert Einstein
H.G. Wells
Sebastian Bach
Franklin D. Roosevelt

just to name a few

[HalfwitFTW]

Originally posted by Claymores

Cheers for teaching me - again I apologise for lack of insight........the Region where I come from has very few non-whites/other Religions so trying to understand 21st Century Muslim culture/ethnticity is difficult. I have no religion but fully support FOR EXAMPLE - that Catholics can accept abortion and homosexuality but still be Catholic - so I found the point about "the Prophet" invalid and behind what you say.

My point was:

If your religion says God gave humans an order... 'do not take part in homosexual activities' then you still go ahead and take part in homosexual activities, then you obviously don't fully believe in or practice that religion do you... even though you say you are a follower of that religion.

Saying you are a follower of a particular religion then not properly practicing it or believing in it is a contradiction.

Same with Islam... the very fundamental belief of Islam is you must believe that Mohammad was the greatest human to have lived, that Muslims must live their life exactly as he did. So to call yourself a Muslim and then disagree with his actions is a major contradiction.