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Watson's allegations may be linked to a Sunday Times story published this weekend in which former Conservative minister Edwina Currie claimed Margaret Thatcher's former parliamentary private secretary, Peter Morrison, had sex with 16-year-old boys when the age of consent was 21.

Currie drew parallels with revelations about the late Jimmy Savile, whose sexually abusive behaviour has prompted a scandal about the culture at the BBC during the 1960s, 70s and 80s. Morrison died in 1995 and was described by Currie in her 2002 memoir as a "noted pederast".

"Even if Morrison was behaving in a criminal fashion, getting cases to court would have been difficult particularly if the young witnesses — one might be talking about a 17-year-old — did not want to give evidence," she explained.

"Unless somebody actually made a complaint to the police, perhaps involving violence, the chance of getting a criminal conviction would be very slim."

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Default Jimmy Savile: Paedophilia and necrophilia

Savile sex scandal hits horrific new low as former colleague Paul Gambaccini claims on Radio Five Live that DJ was a 'necrophiliac'

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A former BBC colleague of Jimmy Savile has claimed the predatory paedophile was a necrophiliac.

It is one of the most extraordinary allegations to have come out in the wake of the scandal.

The claim was made on Radio 5 Live today by Paul Gambaccini, who started working as a DJ on Radio 1 in 1973.

Mr Gambaccini, 63, said he was aware of the necrophilia claims in the eighties.

He questioned why newspapers had not acted when he said a reporter had boasted that his colleagues were aware of a story linking Savile to 'necrophilia'.

His comments astounded presenter Nicky Campbell who tried to stop the conversation by warning the allegations were not in the public domain.

Campbell said: 'That particularly lurid accusation that you have just brought to people's attention is one that has not been in the public domain.'

Gambaccini agreed and asked 'why not?'. And he asked: 'Who vetted the knighthood? Coco the clown?

He claimed a reporter was heard talking at a wedding 10 years ago about Savile being a necrophiliac.

The hospital, where Savile worked as a volunteer and had his own room, said that it has never received claims that Savile 'inappropriately interacted' with corpses.

A spokesman said: 'We are not launching an investigation into claims that Savile was a necrophiliac. We have never received any complaints as to that nature.'

'During our time, to the best of our knowledge, Jimmy was not given free access around our clinical areas and whenever he attended the hospital he would give advance notice and usually be in attendance with his fundraising team.'

In the 1990 interview with Q magazine, The Sun reported Savile was given the job of taking the dead to the mortuary.

Savile, who died last year at 84, said: 'One of my jobs is to take away the deceased. You can look after somebody, be alone with somebody, who has lived a whole lifetime, and I’m just saying goodbye and looking after him.

'That is a privilege and an honour. Some people get hold of the fact that Jim likes looking after cadavers and say, "Aha, Jim’s a necrophiliac!’ I’m not a necrophiliac".'
JS denied he was a paedophile, too .....


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Recent reports about the sexual preferences of Jimmy Savile have not only thrown up allegations of paedophilia but have also hinted that he engaged in other sexual paraphilias such as necrophilia (having sex with corpses).

Paraphilias (from the Greek and translating as “beyond usual or typical love”) are uncommon types of sexual expression and often more commonly described as sexual deviations, sexual perversions or disorders of sexual preference. Many of these behaviours may appear bizarre and/or socially unacceptable, and represent the extreme end of the sexual continuum.

A couple of news reports on Savile allege that he made unaccompanied visits to mortuaries (such as the one at Stoke Mandeville) and that he spoke publicly to the media about his “fascination” with dead bodies.

Some definitions of necrophilia make reference to “the erotic attraction to corpses” but that on its own doesn’t necessarily mean the person enjoys sex with a dead person. Necrophilia is very rare and there are no reliable estimates as to how prevalent the activity is. This is because the statistics are biased by those who get caught and/or end up seeking psychiatric help for the condition. In fact, all the knowledge we have about necrophilia comes from published case studies. The overwhelming majority of necrophiles are male, as are most paraphiliacs more generally, but there are occasional female cases. The most infamous being Karen Greenlee, the American who fell in love and kidnapped a dead male from a funeral home.

Given the paedophilic and necrophilic allegations against Savile, some members of the press have speculated whether there is an association between the two paraphilic behaviours. The scientific literature on necrophilia shows that it has close associations and overlaps with some sexual paraphilias, including sexual sadism (sexual pleasure from hurting someone), sexual cannibalism (sexual pleasure from eating someone), vampirism (sexual pleasure from drinking someone’s blood) and erotophonophilia (sexual pleasure from murdering someone). However, there is little research showing any association between necrophilia and paedophilia except for those individuals that practice necropedophilia (sexual contact with the corpses of children).

Perhaps unsurprisingly, some types of occupation that have the easiest access to dead bodies are most likely to engage in necrophilic acts, the most obvious being gravediggers and mortuary attendants. However, there is some evidence that necrophiles seek out such jobs in the first place. In the largest published study of 122 necrophiles from all over the world, more than half (57%) were employed in a profession that gave them easy access to dead bodies. Such behaviour is also common among paedophiles that seek out jobs providing easy and/or unhindered access to children. Such claims have also been levelled at Savile surrounding allegations of both paedophilia and necrophilia.

One common reason given for why some people engage in such behaviour is the fact that corpses cannot refuse, reject or resist sex from a necrophile. Additionally, they cannot inform anyone, such as those in the criminal justice system, of its occurrence. Similar reasons have been applied to Savile in relation to choosing mentally ill and/or very vulnerable victims who in essence didn’t have a voice or a voice that would be believed.
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"It emerged yesterday that Liz Mackean, one of two BBC journalists working on the Savile investigation, believed the story was quashed after Peter Rippon, the editor of Newsnight, questioned whether the witnesses were really victims. She claimed in an email leaked to Channel 4 News that he told her "the girls were teenagers, not too young … they weren't the worst kind of sexual offences"."


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as many were 13 years old.

One very young girl had Evil Saville pumping her
in a bands back room.
A band member walked right in on him
he could see the girl was 13 or 12 years old for sure.
Savile told him next door on the left for the bands room.
That was on BBC Radio Leeds
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Necrophilia too, it makes you more sick to the stomach. Vile man, hope he is rotting but probably had a laugh at the victims whose lives he destroyed and fooling lots of people on his deathbed.
If this newspaper who printed this story said that Jimmy Savile was giving Kangaroo blow jobs to would you believe that?? Seriously, don't believe everything you read in these papers who are only interested in one thing and that is 'MONEY' with a capital 'M'. You will also notice how when Freddy Starr got his good name dragged into all this mess, he didn't mess around and immediately came on television to say his peace and also got an injunction to stop the media from carrying out their 'two ring circus act' which is what they love to do as it sells papers and makes them plenty of cash, which is all they want.

There are also a lot of cash-hungry people out there who are more than aware of the compensation-culture which we have adopted from America. Just imagine if at one time in your life when you were in your teens and you met Jimmy Savile and he came upto you and gave you a hug and a kiss on your cheek when you asked him for his autograph, wouldn't it be tempting tomake up a false story years later when all this 'so-called paedophelia allegations' are in full swing - and there is the likelihood that you may receive some cash compensation in time because someone or more is found to have not done their job properly so therefore held liable for what occured back then. Well Jimmy is dead so can't defend himself so anyone can say what they like, including Paul Gambaccini who probably hated him anyway when he was alive so can say anything he likes as no injunction is in place to stop him.

Just imagine if Michael Jackson had have died a day after the first person came forward nameing him a paedophile and just imagine if no one in his family came forward and tried to stop his good name being dragged through the mud like Jimmy Savile's is. Michael Jackson would have had even more boys coming forward claiming that they had been sexually abused by him for the very same reason that Jimmy Savile has had, in fact a lot more and all hoping for a lovely compensation claim to come their way. It's just the way it goes thanks to the Americans.
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If this newspaper who printed this story said that Jimmy Savile was giving Kangaroo blow jobs to would you believe that??
The last time I looked, MOST newspapers were running the story.

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You will also notice how when Freddy Starr got his good name dragged into all this mess, he didn't mess around and immediately came on television to say his peace and also got an injunction to stop the media from carrying out their 'two ring circus act' which is what they love to do as it sells papers and makes them plenty of cash, which is all they want.
IIRC, that injunction was almost immediately overtuned.

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There are also a lot of cash-hungry people out there who are more than aware of the compensation-culture which we have adopted from America. Just imagine if at one time in your life when you were in your teens and you met Jimmy Savile and he came upto you and gave you a hug and a kiss on your cheek when you asked him for his autograph, wouldn't it be tempting tomake up a false story years later when all this 'so-called paedophelia allegations' are in full swing - and there is the likelihood that you may receive some cash compensation in time because someone or more is found to have not done their job properly so therefore held liable for what occured back then.
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Well Jimmy is dead so can't defend himself so anyone can say what they like, including Paul Gambaccini who probably hated him anyway when he was alive so can say anything he likes as no injunction is in place to stop him.
I hated Savile when he was alive, too .....

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Just imagine if Michael Jackson had have died a day after the first person came forward nameing him a paedophile and just imagine if no one in his family came forward and tried to stop his good name being dragged through the mud like Jimmy Savile's is. Michael Jackson would have had even more boys coming forward claiming that they had been sexually abused by him for the very same reason that Jimmy Savile has had, in fact a lot more and all hoping for a lovely compensation claim to come their way. It's just the way it goes thanks to the Americans.
Yeah, Jimmy was a saint and all the claimants are liars, etc. etc. .....
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It is understood the names of at least three doctors have been passed to police investigating living individuals over claims that they were at the centre of a loose network of child abusers connected with Savile.

The doctors, identified by victims who have come forward in the last fortnight, worked at hospitals where Savile had links over several decades. The former DJ had an office and living quarters in Broadmoor, a bedroom in Stoke Mandeville, and was given free rein at Leeds general infirmary.

The Guardian can reveal that Stoke Mandeville was at the centre of a child sex abuse scandal in the late 1980s when a consultant paediatrician was investigated after a whistleblower came forward to the health authority.

Dr Michael Salmon, a consultant paediatrician at the Aylesbury hospital, was suspended in 1989 after an investigation by government auditors prompted by concerns about possible financial improprieties. During the inquiry investigators found evidence relating to teenage patients of Salmon and a criminal investigation was launched.

Salmon was jailed for three years in 1990 after admitting indecent assaults on two 13-year-old girls and a 16-year-old girl. Three years earlier he had been praised by Diana, Princess of Wales, for helping to organise a trip to Walt Disney World in Florida for 300 disabled children. He was struck off the medical register in 1991. The GMC committee said at the time it was "appalled by the disgraceful behaviour towards vulnerable patients which led to Dr Salmon's conviction".

Dr Raymond Brown, who worked as a consultant paediatrician with Salmon, said he would have known Savile because everyone at the hospital knew him. Savile, who raised Ł40m for Stoke Mandeville, had boasted that he "lived" in a bedroom hospital managers had given him and could do as he pleased.

Brown said he had had no contact with Salmon since he was sacked and struck off the medical register. Salmon could not be contacted.
DJ, pop singer, comedian, MP and now a doctor .....
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The guy knew he was safe....As he said himself, he could take half the establishment down with him if challenged...
Police, politicians, NHS bigwigs, BBC executives...
It was in their interests to protect him, and they did.
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**** this **** man what the heck are they hoping to achieve by releasing even worst info everyday, its just upsetting man do it already, we get it the man was the god father of pedophilia and everything surrounding it, we get, now take action you ***** if he committed a 1000 more crimes will we have to wait a thousand more months before things are finalized.
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Well, the Pope "knighted" Savile .....
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catholics? involved in abuse scandals?....don't be daft.
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I knew this would bite me in the ass. I wanted to change "pope" but you people are too fast.
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Haha! I know what you meant ithinkiloveyoutoo, there are those you are sure will be infallible.
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COPS swooped on Jimmy Savile’s suspected paedophile lair at his isolated country hideaway yesterday.

Detectives scoured the disgraced DJ’s remote cottage in the Scottish Highlands amid fears more than 20 victims were abused there.

Officers arrived in three unmarked vehicles to search the whitewashed hillside home where Savile entertained showbiz guests and royalty — including Prince Charles.

Police believe the creepy cottage in Glencoe — untouched since his death last year — holds vital leads.

Yesterday’s swoop was part of Scotland Yard’s nationwide probe into a flood of allegations about the perverted TV star.

It is understood they are poised to make arrests after a string of allegations that he was part of a wider paedophile ring.

Last night one Glencoe local, John Grieve said: “I heard it was going to be searched at one point.

“It has been on the cards.

“I kept away from the bloke. I just found him bloody irksome.”
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Last week detectives revealed the police inquiry, Operation Yewtree, had identified 200 victims.

The BBC's home affairs correspondent Danny Shaw said more victims had come forward since last week.

He said some of them had been living abroad.

Our correspondent said sources close to Scotland Yard's investigation said they were also looking at "figures of high standing" who might have helped Savile.

He said there is so far nothing to suggest a "paedophile ring" involving Savile existed - in the sense that children were passed around between adults to be abused.

But he said it is thought investigations are looking at those who may have assisted Savile, helped organise abuse, cover it up or taken part in assaults themselves.

No arrests have been made so far, though our correspondent said it is expected there will be arrests at some point.
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On newsnight yesterday they were saying that it's NOT a crime for people to not report child abuse. I was dumbfounded. I can't believe that it's not a crime to see child abuse and not report it to the authorities in the UK.

If someone knows about child abuse going on and doesn't report it, imo that should ABSOLUTELY be a crime.
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Alex, we have a tough enough time bringing justice to the people who 'do' crime without starting on the people who 'see' crime.. haha!
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Chris Patten decides to back George Entwistle after it is suggested he 'fall on his sword' for his comments to Maria Miller.
He suggests the 'tsunami of filth' only began 11 days into the current DG's job.
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just as many non cathloics abuse as do cathloics....its a sickness that spreads to religious or non religious people
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How The Fecking Hell
can this NYT CEO Yank Clear
Former BBC Mark Thompson from the Neswnight Halt.


So the CEO of the BBC
was not aware that 2 big Savile shows on BBC1
could be stopped due to a BBC Newsnight Report
- I do not buy that
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How The Fecking Hell
can this NYT CEO Yank Clear
Former BBC Mark Thompson from the Neswnight Halt.


So the CEO of the BBC
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could be stopped due to a BBC Newsnight Report
- I do not buy that
don't say "yank" like that, it sounds offensive.
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