[arista]

"My poor Freddie has suffered
heart palpitations since child abuse allegations,
claims fiancée, 34, as she defends him on TV"

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz28oof01LM


His ticker is giving him problems.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

If I was one of the victims I would be angry all this is happening now. What's the point? He's dead. Although, I suppose if in the end they prove he was guilty it would give the victims some peace of mind.

[Kizzy]

Hmmm, well i'm not going to condemn freddie without trial but this 'stress' related heart problem..
I can't help but think it's a desprate attempt to avoid being confronted on the issue.
Being convicted of abuse after he has passed may not mean a lot to the public but i'm guessing to the victims it will be huge.

[Nedusa]

Hmmmnn... Maybe they're trying to bring Freddie Star into the frame, maybe people will come forward and say he was involved with JS almost like a Celeb molesting ring at the BBC. At least he can defend himself but no wonder he is a worried man, even if he was never directly involved ,if his name is bandied around along with JS then his name and reputation will be ruined regardless of any possible charges being brought.

No wonder he is having palpitations he is about to literally lose everything if he gets tied into this sordid mess.

[Omah]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-19889974

Sir Jimmy Savile's grave in Scarborough is to be dismantled after allegations he sexually abused girls, it has been confirmed.

The undertaker who dealt with Sir Jimmy's funeral last year said the triple headstone at Woodlands Cemetery would be removed.

Police are investigating the alleged sexual abuse of girls by the DJ and presenter following claims made in an ITV documentary last week.

He died last year at the age of 84.

One of the headstones bears the epitaph "it was good while it lasted".

..... and now I hope he's rotting in hell .....

[arista]

Savile is reported as Rape of 14 year old girls

That is enough to say he was Evil.



Yes best to get rid of that Tacky Grave Stone
as soon it will get attacked and for good reason.

[waterhog]

Originally Posted by kizzy

Hmmm, well i'm not going to condemn freddie without trial but this 'stress' related heart problem..
I can't help but think it's a desprate attempt to avoid being confronted on the issue.
Being convicted of abuse after he has passed may not mean a lot to the public but i'm guessing to the victims it will be huge.

well said kizzy - i to think this is going to take its toll on freddie now and quilty or not - i am sure this is going to be punishing on his body. and i am sure those who have come out with these alligation will get great comfront from that.

[joeysteele]

I have thought about this all day off and on,talked to a fair number of people and following the Police statement tonight, I do have to admit that I now think there is far more substance to these allegations than I believed likely to be.

I am someone who likes to be sure of facts whenever possible but I think the Police clearly feel he would have cases,not just a case, to answer to where he still alive.
That is now enough for me on this issue, clearly Girls underage have been it would now seem, subjected to abuse and worse by Jimmy Savile.
They cannot get justice now really, however as with the Catholic Church abuses of Children, they are able to speak out and are now believed too by the Police from the accounts they have given.

I clearly was wrong to seemingly dismiss a lot of these allegations so my hands go up now,retracting all my earlier comments as to this.
I was wrong as to Jimmy Savile and I hope the genuine cases of complaint from his victims at least now get some peace and closure to the whole sordid mess.
Vey fitting to remove the headstone too.

We are not able to see the evidence the victims have provided and given account of to the Police.
However,I do strongly trust the Police in the main and have no doubt that they would have made the statement they did today without being sure that they were dealing with factual complaints against someone who had aat the very least abused underage Girls and at worst gone even further.
Really awful and I guess the full facts are even more awful too.

[billy123]

No doubt there must be pretting damning evidence against him its just the trial by chavs that people find offensive there are some that revel in it like its nothing more than gossip column jeremy kyle style news.
ugggh these kind of numptys turn my stomach.

There is a time to shut your trap and let justice take its course and show a level of decorum some people just dont respect that time and that includes sections of the media.
It speaks volumes about their intelligence as much as anything else.

This is my last comment on the serious subject due to active trolls on this section of tibb.

[the truth]

what are the charges and claims made against these men in totality

[Omah]

Originally Posted by bobnot

No doubt there must be pretting damning evidence against him its just the trial by chavs that people find offensive there are some that revel in it like its nothing more than gossip column jeremy kyle style news.
ugggh these kind of numptys turn my stomach.

There is a time to shut your trap and let justice take its course and show a level of decorum some people just dont respect that time and that includes sections of the media.
It speaks volumes about their intelligence as much as anything else.

This is my last comment on the serious subject due to active trolls on this section of tibb.

I know what you mean .....

[Omah]

Originally Posted by the truth

what are the charges and claims made against these men in totality

Police have already formally recorded eight criminal allegations – two rapes and six of indecent assault.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz28sdi511E

[arista]

"Jimmy Savile’s headstone taken away at 1am, smashed up and dumped in a skip once its inscription is removed with grinders – with his family’s blessing"

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz28sdGFvIm

"Yesterday the BBC faced renewed
questions over its ‘extraordinary’ decision to
drop a Newsnight investigation into the claims almost a year ago."

[Omah]

http://news.sky.com/story/995632/jim...oved-by-family

His family said it took the decision to remove his headstone, which bears Savile's image and lists his accomplishments, as a mark of respect to others buried in the cemetery.

"(We) are deeply aware of the impact that the stone remaining there could have on the dignity and sanctity of the cemetery," a statement released on behalf of the family said.

"Out of respect to public opinion, to those who are buried there, and to those who tend their graves and visit there, we have decided to remove it."

Scarborough Borough Council said the work was carried out shortly before midnight - ahead of the scheduled time of 7.30 on Wednesday morning - to minimise disruption and potential vandalism. Police shut the gates of the cemetary as it took place.

Despite making the request, his family did not know it would be removed under the cover of night and the decision to do it then was made by the council and funeral directors.

The inscription on the headstone will be removed and the stone broken up and disposed of in a skip, and the grave will remain unmarked.

Good

[Marc]

Freddie Star must have been guilty as well, just look at the guy

[Marc]

Who puts a face on a grave stone anyway? Just tacky

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Marc

Who puts a face on a grave stone anyway? Just tacky

I disagree with that we have a photo on one of our family members child who was murdered,we don't consider it 'tacky' at all

[Kazanne]

Freddie Starr is another odious creep imo,and he must be cacking himself at the moment.

[Marc]

Originally Posted by kazanne

I disagree with that we have a photo on one of our family members child who was murdered,we don't consider it 'tacky' at all

Really, just seems creepy to have their face there in, the whole area is sad and scary. Not really somewhere you'd want to see a smiley face looking up at you.

Well obviously that's my feeling. Don't want to annoy you with me thinkings

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Marc

Really, just seems creepy to have their face there in, the whole area is sad and scary. Not really somewhere you'd want to see a smiley face looking up at you.

Well obviously that's my feeling. Don't want to annoy you with me thinkings

You haven't annoyed me Marc ,people deal with things differently.

[Marc]

Originally Posted by kazanne

Freddie Starr is another odious creep imo,and he must be cacking himself at the moment.

this.

very much this.

he just looks like a paedophile

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by kazanne

I disagree with that we have a photo on one of our family members child who was murdered,we don't consider it 'tacky' at all

Some can be very tasteful and a fitting tribute to the person although I agree with Marc that JS' was quite tacky looking...(but maybe that is because now all this has come to light it seems to have been in bad taste )

Also, sorry that you have had such a tradgey Kazanne...

[Marc]

Maybe because JS has such a cheesy face

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by anniek76

Some can be very tasteful and a fitting tribute to the person although I agree with Marc that JS' was quite tacky looking...(but maybe that is because now all this has come to light it seems to have been in bad taste )

Also, sorry that you have had such a tradgey Kazanne...

It was a long time ago now annie,i was a teenager,but the feelings in the family are still raw,it never really goes away.Our pic is a small picture and not etched into the stone like Savilles,and thankyou annie

[arista]