[Jack_]

Originally Posted by arista

Murdoch paper in anti-BBC shocker

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by arista

Sets watch and waits....

[Kizzy]

Well..... that was the biggest damage limitation exercise ever.

[Omah]

Obviously not the WHOLE story - there's more to come tomorrow - but this program did introduce us to the Newsnight team and it did confirm the meddling by those at the top .....

..... but, as was pointed out, Savile fooled everybody except his victims and hid his obscenities in plain sight of everyone else .....

[arista]

Originally Posted by Omah

Obviously not the WHOLE story - there's more to come tomorrow - but this program did introduce us to the Newsnight team and it did confirm the meddling by those at the top .....

..... but, as was pointed out, Savile fooled everybody except his victims and hid his obscenities in plain sight of everyone else .....

Yes the Emails
they did not show.


Yes Savile was
helped
(by those that walked in on him- and wanted to keep their jobs)
are the helpers still around?

[Omah]

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ne...#ixzz2A5BMzD6R

It took him 20 years to land the job of Director-General. Today's performance in front of MPs will decide whether he keeps it.

The BBC Director-General, George Entwistle, will be fighting for his career today as MPs demand to know how much he knew about the suppression of a Newsnight investigation into sexual abuse by Jimmy Savile and why he sanctioned tribute programmes to the late BBC presenter.

Mr Entwistle today gives evidence before the House of Commons Committee on Culture, Media and Sport. Its chairman, John Whittingdale, was damning yesterday, saying: "The handling of this by the BBC has been lamentable, they have made a bad situation even worse and ultimately the Director-General is responsible for that and certainly we would want to press him on that whole issue."

MPs will question Mr Entwistle over why he sanctioned a tribute programme on Savile after the director of BBC News had informed him weeks before that Newsnight was investigating the late presenter. "It seems to me extraordinary that, given George Entwistle was told, that he did not want to know a lot more about it," Mr Whittingdale said yesterday.

Is Entwistle another glaring example of the Peter Principle?

[lostalex]

When is enough enough? The Catholic Church, the Boy Scouts, the BBC, Penn State.... how many more major institutions do we need to hear about before someone finally does something about this?

These things come out, and everyone is shocked about what happened, but nothing is being done about the fact that it's still happening now. We can sit around talking about what Jimmy Saville did, what about all of the JImmy Saville's doing it right now that we won't hear about for another 20 years? What is being done to uncover these things as they are ACTUALLY happening, instead of just dealing with it long after it's too late?

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by lostalex

When is enough enough? The Catholic Church, the Boy Scouts, the BBC, Penn State.... how many more major institutions do we need to hear about before someone finally does something about this?

These things come out, and everyone is shocked about what happened, but nothing is being done about the fact that it's still happening now. We can sit around talking about what Jimmy Saville did, what about all of the JImmy Saville's doing it right now that we won't hear about for another 20 years? What is being done to uncover these things as they are ACTUALLY happening, instead of just dealing with it long after it's too late?

Great post... Wholeheartedly agree. Let these investigations continue but also let it lead to other abuse rings being uncovered and people actually paying for their crimes.

[Omah]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20001588

Jimmy Savile's charities are to close after their trustees decided that keeping them open could be "damaging" to the causes they support.

The trustees of the Jimmy Savile Charitable Trust and Jimmy Savile Stoke Mandeville Hospital Trust said they had considered a change of name in the wake of the sex abuse allegations against their late founder.

However, after meeting on Monday, it was decided that they "could not see a future for either charity" because the organisations would "always be linked in the public's mind with the late Jimmy Savile".

They spoke of their concern that adverse press coverage could be "damaging" for causes the two trusts support - and said protecting these causes was their primary concern.

Before setting up the general charitable trust in 1984, Savile established the Jimmy Savile Stoke Mandeville Hospital Trust in 1981 following a request from the Buckinghamshire hospital where he volunteered for many years to help raise funds for rebuilding work.

The Jimmy Savile Charitable Trust is primarily based in the Leeds area, although not all of its trustees - listed as Luke Lucas, Dr Roger Bodley and Lady Gabrielle Greenbury on the Charity Commission's website - still live there.

Its overview on the Charity Commission website states that the trust's objectives are to "provide funds for the relief of poverty and sickness and other charitable purposes beneficial to the community", as well as "provision of recreational and other facilities for disabled persons".

More than half the funds given out by the trust over the years had come from donors other than Savile, Ms Summers said.

"The trustees are eternally grateful to all those people for their support in the past, so we don't want it to be seen as just Jimmy's money," she said.

Following Savile's death last October aged 84, an auction of his collection of mementos and personal belongings - including his Rolls-Royce which went for Ł130,000 and the original red Jim'll Fix It chair for Ł8,500 - raised about Ł320,000 for his charities.

There will be further funds when the final part of Savile's estate "falls into" the trust, said Ms Summers, including some of his properties still to be sold. It is likely now that these funds will be distributed to other charities, along with the funds remaining in the two trusts.

However, the trustees have said they will not be publicly announcing which causes they money will go to.

Good - the name goes, the money gets re-distributed.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Omah

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20001588



Good - the name goes, the money gets re-distributed.

..the thing I don't understand is why keep the charities a secret..?..they say it's because the money is tainted, which doesn't make sense to me because it would seem that it's the only possible good thing to come out of this...the people donating that money gave it in good faith and it has and will continue to benefit the people who need it...so why the need for secrecy..?....

..whatever else he was or has done, it's a fact that huge amounts of money were raised for good causes and I can't see the public outraged at any charity who would benefit fom that money...

[Omah]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..the thing I don't understand is why keep the charities a secret..?..they say it's because the money is tainted, which doesn't make sense to me because it would seem that it's the only possible good thing to come out of this...the people donating that money gave it in good faith and it has and will continue to benefit the people who need it...so why the need for secrecy..?....

..whatever else he was or has done, it's a fact that huge amounts of money were raised for good causes and I can't see the public outraged at any charity who would benefit fom that money...

The JS charities are not being kept secret - they are being closed down.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Omah

The JS charities are not being kept secret - they are being closed down.

..that wasn't what I meant Omah...the charities the money is being distributed to...I don't understand why they have to be kept secret..

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..that wasn't what I meant Omah...the charities the money is being distributed to...I don't understand why they have to be kept secret..

They touched on this in the news today, the money around 10 million may be distributed between charities supporting victims of abuse.

[Omah]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..that wasn't what I meant Omah...the charities the money is being distributed to...I don't understand why they have to be kept secret..

Well, AFAIK, none have been chosen yet - the distribution of several million pounds may have repurcussions and ramifications that have to be considered.

If a charity is wound up it must inform the commission. If there are outstanding funds in the charity's name, they must be donated to a charity that does similar work

Source: The Charity Commission

[Omah]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20038436

BBC director general George Entwistle will be questioned by MPs later about the corporation's handling of sexual abuse claims against Jimmy Savile.

Mr Entwistle will appear before the Commons culture, media and sport select committee at 10:30 BST

0916: Culture, Media and Sport Select Committee chairman, Conservative MP John Whittingdale, is expected to lead the questioning of Mr Entwistle.

He can expect a "grilling" .....

[Omah]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20039602

1022: We've just heard that overnight viewing figures for Panorama's Jimmy Savile special show 5.1m people tuned in - double the programme's normal audience.

[Omah]

Entwistle's arrived - still denying BBC's handling was laggardly

He has not even bothered to seek out the level of abuse complaints since the 1960's

He's flapping - has he done no preparation at all ?

[arista]

Yes Stiff Upper Lip.

He can not pass the buck
about newsnight
as he was in charge of vision.

[Omah]

He just keeps saying "Someone's looking at it"

He's "guessing" at the incidence of child abuse in the BBC

He's not bothered to arrange personal contact with former employees

He's getting pushed on the recent "just the women" phrase now - thing haven't changed then

[Kizzy]

Is this being broadcast live?

It's ok, I found it on channel 80

[Omah]

He's still evading responsibility - blaming middle management - talking about "notes","asked", "speaking to", "getting a sense of"

[Omah]

Now he's being pushed about the lies about Karin and the police

He's "observed the chain of command" but not asked his subordinates what's going on

[arista]

Yes he seems a True Pleb

[Omah]

He only ever speaks to his "Divisional Directors" before "executing his authority"

He HAS given considerable thought about abandoning a program with potential criminal evidence, but admits neither he or nor his subordinates decided to inform the police

He's being asked why the BBC persisted in saying the Newsnight investigation was about the CPS and the police when obviously the public interest would have been in the serial paediophila of a BBC "superstar"

He doesn't "have an awareness" of much of anything for which he has responsibility and upon which he can exert authority

[Kizzy]

Reading between the lines... He HAD to drop it.
In my opinion, I would go so far as to say the police or the government had requested the investigation stopped.