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Old 29-10-2012, 06:59 AM #1
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I wonder who else along with Jimmy Savile was in Gary's Gang...!!!
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Lightbulb Glitter arrested, now who's next?

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Detectives warned Savile’s living accomplices last week that ‘we are coming for you’, and have drawn up a detailed arrest strategy.

They have refused to discuss who will be next in line for questioning.

Others thought vulnerable to arrest include a former BBC employee who was a close associate of Savile. The Mail revealed three weeks ago how he allegedly ‘procured’ girls for the star, and has also been accused of committing rape himself on BBC premises.

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Don't worry about it arista, microscope may just be playing devils advocate.
Some young men do mistake 15yr old girls for 17yr old girs...
How a thirtysomething guy mistakes a 9yr old boy scout for one is a different matter.
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Arrow 'Creepy' Jimmy Savile was banned from Children in Need

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Sir Roger Jones, OBE, former chairman of Children in Need said: "He was a creepy sort of character - we didn't want him anywhere near the charity."

Sir Roger, 69, was also a governor of BBC Wales at the time. He said he did not have have evidence to report Savile to management at the Corporation.

But he said Savile was banned from any involvement at the annual Children in Need TV fundraiser because of "rumours" about his interest in young girls.

Sir Roger said: "We all recognised he was a creepy sort of character.

"And when I was with Children in Need we took the decision that we didn't want him near the charity.

"We stepped up our child protection policies which again which would have put him at great risk if he tried anything.

"A charity like Children In Need knew the biggest thing to guard against was paedophiles. They were just like flies around the honey pot."
Good for Sir Roger .....
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i was watching a report about this,. and what surpsised me most was the fact that in the UK, it's not illegal to see someone molest a child and not report it. That shocked me. I think there must have been DOZENS of people at the BBC over the years that knew this was going on, but they can't face any legal charges for not reporting it.

That's just crazy. In the US, and Canada, Australia, and most other civilized nations it is a CRIME to not report child abuse.

It's just mind blowing that there's nothing illegal about all of those BBC staff seeing him abusing children and not reporting it. IMO all of those BBC staff that knew what was going on and didn't report it are JUST AS GUILTY.
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i was watching a report about this,. and what surpsised me most was the fact that in the UK, it's not illegal to see someone molest a child and not report it. That shocked me. I think there must have been DOZENS of people at the BBC over the years that knew this was going on, but they can't face any legal charges for not reporting it.

That's just crazy. In the US, and Canada, Australia, and most other civilized nations it is a CRIME to not report child abuse.

It's just mind blowing that there's nothing illegal about all of those BBC staff seeing him abusing children and not reporting it. IMO all of those BBC staff that knew what was going on and didn't report it are JUST AS GUILTY.
I agree with you again lostalex, it will be interesting to see what does transpire as to the investigations going on and I do think,if there were and still are, people at the BBC who are found to have been told things as to this but then did nothing to find out for sure, or just ignored it, then they should be brought to account for that.

As arista points out we fund the BBC through the TV licence.
If it is found that families had teens or younger involved in shows where someone employed by the BBC was able to molest and abuse them,then get their fees and also high popularity profile enhanced, then really, I hope this leads to much more and that the BBC is, in the hopefully near future, not trusted with public funding again.

However, if anyone did hear of anything, if it was ever told to them by the abused or their families and they did nothing then definitely,those people as you say are just as guilty. Their silence not only allowed this to go on as it was but to actually clearly get worse from all reports and even extend out to other areas and organisations where abuse could be carried out.
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This was years back
and those BBC workers that let Evil Jimmy rape kids
were keeping their jobs safe
and some may have been part of the ring.
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ohh, they were keeping their jobs safe, that's makes it okay then, cause it's okay to let kids be molested as long as it's keeping your job safe... wtf
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ohh, they were keeping their jobs safe, that's makes it okay then, cause it's okay to let kids be molested as long as it's keeping your job safe... wtf

No it's Not OK


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Arrow Three doctors 'collaborated in the abuse' by Savile

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Police have been given the names of doctors who are accused of being in league with Jimmy Savile.

One doctor allegedly ‘collaborated’ with the BBC star in selecting child patients to rape at Leeds General Infirmary.

Two others worked alongside him at Stoke Mandeville, the Buckinghamshire hospital where nurses warned children to ‘pretend to be asleep’ when Savile toured the wards.

At Leeds General Infirmary, two former women patients have come forward to name a doctor. He is accused of ‘brutal rape’.

The National Association for People Abused in Childhood charity said: ‘One of the victims has said Jimmy and this doctor used to collaborate in choosing girls and taking them somewhere else to abuse them.’
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I was fondled whilst pregnant by my consultant at the LGI wonder if he was in on it?
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When you say "fondled", do you mean "stroked or caressed lovingly or erotically" or "examined"?

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When you say "fondled", do you mean "stroked or caressed lovingly or erotically" or "examined"?

I do know the difference...
He asked a lot of rather inappropriate questions too... I was naive so just answered them.
It wasen't untill a few years after I heard he had been caught.

Nah, even though i'm skint it would be way too embarrassing vicky lol.
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I do know the difference...
He asked a lot of rather inappropriate questions too... I was naive so just answered them.
It wasen't untill a few years after I heard he had been caught.
My apologies .....

I thought you were joking .....

Was there a court case .....
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I thought you were joking .....

Was there a court case .....
Yep, he was jailed for 18 months and struck off.
Can't post links atm, his name is vinall.
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Omg, that's awful. I take it he's been arrested?
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Omg, that's awful. I take it he's been arrested?
He was yes, I found out via a friend who had the same consultant at that time.
She was not assaulted but remembers the strange questions.
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Get your claim in kizzy, while the story is rife. Might get some compo
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Exclamation Jimmy Savile: Family members target great-niece on Facebook

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Relatives of Jimmy Savile’s great-niece have reportedly attacked her on Facebook for speaking out about the star molesting her.

The abuse comes after Caroline Robinson claimed that as a 12-year-old she was abused in a room full of relatives, including her late-grandmother - Savile’s sister - who told her “don’t worry, it’s only Jimmy”.

But far from rallying round to support the 49-year-old, who claims she was abused by Savile for a second time when aged 15, Mrs Robinson says her living relatives have instead taken to Facebook to accuse her of lying and “bringing shame on the family”.

Mrs Robinson’s brother Martin Perry allegedly posted: “You are not right in the head.”

He went on: “You have brought shame on all the Marsdens by lying, there will be a nice long line of people wanting to smack you? Never again will I think I have a sister.”

Her niece Louise Perry added: “No one in the family has a clue what you are on about. For you to paint such an awful picture of the family is beyond my belief.”

And Jane Perry, married to Mrs Robinson’s other brother Philip, said: “What a load of bollocks.”

Speaking to the Sun, Mrs Robinson said: “It’s just disgusting. They are the very people I thought I would get support from. I expected it from other folk who did not know but from family is different.”

Mrs Robinson has reported the Facebook abuse to the police, but an officer visiting her home apparently told her there was little they could do.
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A consultant gynaecologist used his position to carry out a series of indecent assaults on more than 20 patients, a court heard on Tuesday.
Paul Vinall, 55, touched the women intimately either on their breasts or genitals while they were completely naked "under the pretext of being a necessary physical examination", a jury at Sheffield Crown Court was told.

Paul Worsley QC, prosecuting, said the doctor preyed on the "vulnerability" of his patients and even personally removed the underwear of some women during consultations in a "wholly unjustified manner".

"He was using his position as a consultant to carry out indecent assaults on those ladies in the course of those examinations,

Charges denied

"confident that they trusted him, that they would not complain or that he could always produce an explanation that in his work, touching a lady in a particular manner was appropriate," added Mr Worsley.

Mr Vinall is a consultant obstetrician and gynaecologist who has worked at various hospitals and private clinics in Yorkshire, including Leeds General Infirmary and Wharfedale General Hospital, Otley.

He denies 31 counts of indecent assault on 22 patients between 1981 and 2000.

Mr Worsley told the jury that the alleged sexual assaults were carried out by Vinall "in a manner which gave him some personal satisfaction".

On one occasion, Vinall touched a woman's breasts with one hand while inserting his fingers into her vagina after she had been told to take all her clothes off.

'No clinical purpose'

Another patient alleged that Vinall fondled her breasts as she was kneeling on all fours completely naked.
Just as you said .....

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Dr Paul Vinall, 55, was found guilty of the two charges at Sheffield Crown Court on Friday and cleared of three other charges.

A further 26 were ordered to remain on file.

The consultant obstetrician and gynaecologist, who worked at various hospitals and private clinics in Yorkshire, had denied 31 counts of indecent assault on 22 patients between 1981 and 2000.

The judge, Mr Justice Crane, told Vinall that his career has ended in "shame and humiliation".

He said that Vinall, of Asel Pasture, Leeds, had betrayed the absolute trust of his patients, embarrassing and humiliating at least two of them.

During the trial, the jury heard a series of allegations that Vinall had misused his position by touching women inappropriately "under the pretext of being necessary physical examinations."

The two guilty charges date back to 1991 and 1995 and occurred at private consulting rooms Vinall used across West Yorkshire.

Both counts involved Vinall conducting "inappropriate" examinations on women.

The first involved a 48-year-old nurse and midwife and the second related to a 34-year-old woman.

Vinall has been suspended since July 2000, following the complaints to the NHS helpline by patients.

Vinall will automatically be struck off the General Medical Council for a minimum of five years, effectively meaning the end of his career.

Mr Justice Crane said because he had failed to plead guilty to any of the charges, Vinall had put the women through the embarrassment and humiliation of giving evidence.
Personally, I don't think that sentence is harsh enough for what he did to dozens of women .....

..... and to think that you went through it, too, kizzy .....
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It was 1997, I was 24 and trusted him completely.
Looking back I should have told someone, thats what all these kids must have thought.
Who would believe me? maybe I was overreacting?
He should have got longer, wonder how many more there are like me who didn't speak up?
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..I've just read what happened Kizzy..that's dreadful, I'm glad the guy was convicted..
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..I've just read what happened Kizzy..that's dreadful, I'm glad the guy was convicted..
Thanks ammi It's a shame that saviles victims never saw him punished whilst he was alive.
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..yeah, but hopefully anyone else who was involved will be held accountable...
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Looking back I should have told someone, thats what all these kids must have thought.
Who would believe me? maybe I was overreacting?
Yeah, exactly ..... without corroboration, you'd be accused of fantasizing .....
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