[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Omah

Yeah, exactly ..... without corroboration, you'd be accused of fantasizing .....

I don't know about 'fantasizing'...
if I had known at the time of another person that felt something was not right about their treatment, I would have felt more confident to take it further yes.

[Kizzy]

Definately, my view is they have only scratched the surface.
I would go so far as to say the systematic abuse of children in local authority care has been ongoing and widespread for years.
Nick Davis wrote a book on it...

[arista]

"NYT writer accuses Mark Thompson
of 'wilful ignorance' over Jimmy Savile"


Former BBC Boss
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012...s-jimmy-savile

[Omah]

Originally Posted by arista

"NYT writer accuses Mark Thompson
of 'wilful ignorance' over Jimmy Savile"


Former BBC Boss
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012...s-jimmy-savile

"New York Times Company chairman Arthur Sulzberger is in a difficult spot. He believes strongly that he's got the executive he needs to lead the Times to the promised land of healthy profits again," Nocera said in conclusion.

"Although he declined to be interviewed for this column, he appears to have accepted Thompson's insistence that he knew nothing about the explosive allegations that became public literally 50 days after he accepted the Times job."

Knowing nothing is not exactly an expression of competence .....

[Omah]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20147834

Former staff at the Duncroft Approved School were not questioned by Surrey Police during their 2007 inquiry into sex abuse claims against Jimmy Savile.

The force said it decided not to speak to workers unless there was proof that they had seen or knew about the abuse.

Three ex-residents at the home claimed to have been abused by Savile in the 1970s, but prosecutors found there was insufficient evidence to take action.

Police are probing claims the late TV star abused about 300 young people.

Earlier, former detective and child protection expert Mark Williams-Thomas claimed that Duncroft's head teacher at the time of the alleged abuse - Margaret Jones - was unaware of the police investigation until she read about it in the newspapers.

He told the Daily Telegraph the 2007 investigation "offered the best opportunity to catch Savile".

He added: "It raises questions about why the one person who could have provided information was not spoken to.

"She [Ms Jones] could have provided important background information about the girls and Savile."

A spokeswoman for Surrey Police said officers had spoken to 22 former residents of the girls' school in 2007, and the children's charity Barnado's, which was running the home at the time of the allegations.

She said: "Barnardo's informed us they had no record of any allegations of sexual abuse reported to staff during this period.

"A decision was made not to interview former staff unless there was evidence to suggest they witnessed abuse or were made aware of abuse at the time.

"None of the former residents spoken to during the course of the investigation indicated staff witnessed abuse, and stated they had not reported abuse to any staff at the time," she added.

Well, that seems more than a little remiss of the Surrey Police .....

[joeysteele]

Sorry to read about your really bad experience kizzy.There are some awful people about and in positions of trust too.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Sorry to read about your really bad experience kizzy.There are some awful people about and in positions of trust too.

Thankyou joey as an adult you think nobody will ever take advantage of you again...and then they do.
I feel so stupid, how could I not know that was wrong?

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by kizzy

Thankyou joey as an adult you think nobody will ever take advantage of you again...and then they do.
I feel so stupid, how could I not know that was wrong?

Was it your first pregnancy? You were not to know, we trust doctors etc and I know I would have not questioned it either. Victims of abuse always blame themselves and it is so wrong. At least you saw some justice and know he wont be in a position to do it again. Hope the bastard didn't ruin the magical time too much for you. (hug)

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by anniek76

Was it your first pregnancy? You were not to know, we trust doctors etc and I know I would have not questioned it either. Victims of abuse always blame themselves and it is so wrong. At least you saw some justice and know he wont be in a position to do it again. Hope the bastard didn't ruin the magical time too much for you. (hug)

No, thats another reason I felt a bit daft.
I put it to the back of my mind, it was good to read he had been convicted. I'm annoyed at myself really now, but at the time I just was not confident enough to challenge him.
No, he didn't ruin it annie thanks my son is 15 now

[Ammi]

..you weren't just young and lacking in confidence Kizzy..you were pregnant and your hormones were all over the place..he exploited the whole situation and abused the trust placed in him, not just with you but with others..you have nothing to be annoyed with yourself about....

[Omah]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...mmodation.html

Terry Pratt said the late Jim'll Fix It star was regularly handed a key to the nurses' accommodation building at Leeds General Infirmary during the late 1980s.

The ex-worker told the BBC that Savile would arrive with the girls in the early hours of the morning and then leave before dawn.

Mr Pratt said he became suspicious when Savile began arriving in the middle of the night with different girls who seemed "star-struck" and were "not streetwise".

He added that the celebrity, who was a volunteer and fund-raiser for the hospital, would make several late-night visits a month where he would ask for the key to the accommodation block, spend a few hours there and then leave at 5am.

[Omah]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012...tripped-honour

The Freedom of Scarborough granted to Jimmy Savile by his "second home" seven years ago is almost certain to be suspended by the council next week, with his name removed from the honours board pending the outcome of the Metropolitan Police investigation.

A decision will then be taken on whether the ceremonial link will permanently follow the street signs, plaque and gravestone which have already been removed from the Yorkshire resort, where Savile was a welcome if eccentric regular before his death last year.

Scarborough has been through the now familiar process of incredulity followed by shock and upset that a man associated with charity fundraising, clunk-click safety belt campaigns and hugely popular children's TV programmes could have such a dark side.

Savile's name will be expunged from a list of 20 individuals and groups given the freedom since the local government reforms of 1974 created the present borough. Exemption from tolls and other ceremonial privileges come with the honour, whose other holders include local resident Sir Alan Ayckbourn, the world's second most performed playwright after Shakespeare, the retired boxer Paul Ingle and the Yorkshire Regiment.

Yeah, expunge him .....

[Omah]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012...mmy-savile-itv

Doctors and managers at Stoke Mandeville hospital were afraid to challenge Jimmy Savile over the free access he enjoyed to wards, out of fear that he would take his fundraising millions elsewhere, a former director of nursing has said, as fresh claims emerged of abuse at the hospital and elsewhere.

Christine McFarlane, former director of nursing and patient care at the Buckinghamshire hospital where Savile volunteered for many years, said the TV star "basically ... had the freedom to walk wherever he wanted" and maintained a powerful position thanks to "subtle bullying" of hospital managers.

In an interview with ITV news , McFarlane said managers "didn't fight that hard" to challenge Savile, who had almost single-handedly raised millions of pounds for the hospital, including the funds to establish its famous spinal unit. "There was a fine balance ... to reach in not upsetting Jimmy."

Medical staff's gratitude for his fundraising efforts had given him a great deal of power within the hospital, she said. "Along with the power, people were afraid of Jimmy stopping raising money for the hospital. There was a fear of him taking something away. He argued that it was his and not theirs."

The diabolical machinations of Savile .....

[Omah]

The estate of television presenter Jimmy Savile has been frozen in response to the sex abuse claims made against him, NatWest bank says.

The bank, which is acting as the late DJ's executor, said: "Given the claims raised, distribution of the estate has been put on hold."

Savile's estate is thought to be worth about £4 million.

Lawyers representing those who claim they were attacked by Savile are planning to sue the estate for damages.

[Tom4784]

What's the point of suing his relatives?

[Omah]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

What's the point of suing his relatives?

It's the estate, not the relatives, being sued.

[Nedusa]

Now that the Banks acting as executor for his estate have frozen his assets , we will start to see the backlash. Now that there is a good chance all the relatives and charities who are currently awaiting their share of his £4M will start to use the law to protect his name.

Innocent until proven guilty will be the unspoken mantra regardless of the number of allegations. You can't prove any of it in law and be prepared for a long legal battle which I fear the victims of Savile's abuse will ultimately lose.

When money is involved sentiment goes out the window...!!!

[Omah]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

Now that the Banks acting as executor for his estate have frozen his assets , we will start to see the backlash. Now that there is a good chance all the relatives and charities who are currently awaiting their share of his £4M will start to use the law to protect his name.

There seems to be only 1 major beneficiary :

http://www.channel4.com/news/jimmy-s...se-allegations

Savile's will was written in 2006. The Financial Times reported that it bequeathed his savings and other assets to 26 separate beneficiaries, and that £20,000 in cash was to be shared between 20 of his friends, family and neighbours.

The document reportedly said that a further £600,000 was to be put into a trust fund, with the interest shared between eight people, and that the remaining £3.7m or so would be held by NatWest on behalf of The Jimmy Savile Charitable Trust.

Savile's intended individual beneficiaries include the trustees of both his charities and existing and former employees of Leeds General Infirmary and Broadmoor Hospital.

It is not the first time that the Savile estate has been frozen. In July, it was put on hold after a woman claimed to be his illegitimate daughter.

[Omah]

Originally Posted by Omah

There seems to be only 1 major beneficiary :

http://www.channel4.com/news/jimmy-s...se-allegations

His gold rings were left to a nephew, while a niece was due to receive a photo of him with the Beatles.

[Sticks]

And when money is involved we get all sort of spurious claims from those trying their luck

[Ammi]

..money is a huge driving force of mankind I'm afraid...£4million is quite an enticing steering wheel for many...I expect before it all ends, if everyone who puts in a claim gets a portion...they'll barely have enough to buy themselves a happy meal each....

[Kizzy]

Ah, here come the accusations that victims are trying to make a fast buck...
No amount of victim testimony or witness statements will ever convince some that these people are anything else but moneygrabbers will it?
I just hope that they are never personally affected by something like this, my guess is there would be a distinct change of heart.

[Omah]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012...-investigation

ITV will broadcast further revelations about Jimmy Savile in a follow-up to its explosive Exposure documentary broadcast last month.

The second Savile investigation will be fronted by journalist and former detective Mark Williams-Thomas, who was also responsible for the first programme.

Expected to air in late November, the second ITV investigation may coincide with the conclusion of the BBC inquiry into the affair being led by former head of Sky News Nick Pollard. He is due to start formal interviews next week.

An ITV spokesman said it was too early to confirm when the programme would be broadcast, or what material it would contain.

The first Exposure programme was watched by nearly 2 million viewers.

I suspect that the audience will be somewhat larger for the next Exposure ....

[Omah]

http://www.itv.com/news/update/2012-...leged-victims/

Alan Collins from law firm Pannone said:

“Pannone are also actively pursuing inquiries into Savile's overseas assets, which we believe are being administered in Guernsey."

[Omah]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-20165466

A wall commemorating high-profile citizens in Leeds Civic Hall has had the inscription of Savile's name removed.

Having said three weeks ago they would not change the name of Savile's Hall conference centre in Leeds, owner Royal Armouries International announced a change of mind this week at a cost of £50,000.

"Sir Jimmy's name and reputation are irrevocably tainted and we have to remove every trace," the managing director said.

The Royal Marines training centre at Lympstone will have its Savile Room renamed. A photo and nameplate have already gone. A newspaper talked of them having "destroyed all remnants of the TV star".

The BBC has removed from its Desert Island Discs database a 1985 episode in which Savile says he got into running dance halls in order to get girls.

Savile gets expunged .....