[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Omah

With all this speculation going on before the program, what's it going to be like when we've seen it .....

i'm gonna watch it, and i'll be open minded when i watch it.

[Omah]

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/wi...-away-with-it/

In Jimmy Savile’s case, we know there were stories circulating about his child abuse among BBC colleagues. “It was always said that Jimmy likes them young,” a veteran broadcaster told the Telegraph. One former BBC producer said: "I know for a fact that Jimmy spent a night in a rather squalid hotel with a girl who was at the most 12, or probably 10…”

So why did no one put an end to it? The answer won’t necessarily be an obvious one. Malcolm Gladwell pointed out in the New Yorker recently that “a paedophile is someone adept not just at preying on children but at confusing, deceiving, and charming the adults responsible for those children”.

Gladwell’s piece, headlined "In Plain View: How child molesters get away with it", is worth reading for one reason alone: it reveals precisely how paedophiles operate. The average child abuser is not, says Gladwell, a “dishevelled old man baldly offering candy to preschoolers”. Rather, they can be highly popular, charismatic – almost canonised by the community they live in.

Gladwell tells the story of Jerry Sandusky, a convicted child molester who was assistant football coach at Pennsylvania State University from 1969 to 1999. Like Jimmy Savile, Sandusky was a philanthropist. He founded The Second Mile, a charity that served Pennsylvania’s underprivileged youth – and he used that organisation, as well as his football coaching, to select vulnerable boys, groom them, and abuse them.

It becomes clear, in Sandusky’s case, that he wasn’t a football coach or philanthropist by coincidence. He was those two things because he was a paedophile, and because they gave him access to children he could abuse, all the while earning him the trust of adults. Gladwell makes the wider point: “Paedophiles cluster in professions that give them access to vulnerable children – teaching, the clergy, medicine.”

To me, what has emerged over the last few days proves that Jimmy Savile was not involved in children’s television and other popular TV shows by coincidence, but because they allowed him to select, groom and abuse young girls. In part, he got away with it because the Jimmy Savile public persona – the loveable, slightly creepy eccentric – was enough to distract from his very real crimes. Most people gave him the benefit of the doubt.

After Sandusky's conviction, an independent report confirmed that senior university officials had known about allegations of his abuse, but were complicit in failing to disclose them.

"In Plain View" - to those who opened their eyes .....

[arista]

Dee Coles


on Ch4 News Now

[GypsyGoth]

It seems like people don't want to believe it because he is perceived to have done a lot of good with his life, just like those molester priests.

[arista]

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

It seems like people don't want to believe it because he is perceived to have done a lot of good with his life, just like those molester priests.

Yes

I will watch the 11:10PM Docu on ITV1HD
tomorrow night

[the truth]

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

It seems like people don't want to believe it because he is perceived to have done a lot of good with his life, just like those molester priests.

I dont agree. People want to see the guilty brought to justice
However people do not want to see trial by media, or false accusations made out of either pure malicious, mental derangement or purely for financial gain. The crime of false accusation is one of the worst most under-punished crimes in the country. the government must address this. the trouble is, the more false accusers who make filth up in order to get revenge or maybe through mental illness or to milk money off the press or blackmail is enormous.
worse still, the false accusers waste police and judicial time and money.. this then means less time and money is spent on the legitmitae victims of these disgusting crimes.

The law under the labour government tried to be biased in favour of the accuser. this has failed. the law cannot be biased or the whole system is corrupted. The law must be balanced and justice must be blind.

[lostalex]

Wednesday Night in the UK an expose on a beloved icon being a child molestor
Wednesday Night in the US the Presidential debate.

I can't decide which is more sordid.

[arista]

Originally Posted by lostalex

Wednesday Night in the UK an expose on a beloved icon being a child molestor Wednesday Night in the US the Presidential debate. I can't decide which is more sordid.

but that US Debate is not on for Hours after our 11:10PM (thats your afternoon etc)
you do know that?

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by arista

but that US Debate is not on for Hours after our 11:10PM
you do know that?

well that's why i'll be downloading the itv doc first and watching the debates live. but my point stands, they're both sordid.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by lostalex

well that's why i'll be downloading the itv doc first and watching the debates live. but my point stands, they're both sordid.

so is false accusation, disgustingly sordid.

[Kazanne]

well apparently there WAS an accusation in Jersey I think they said,but they couldn't find enough evidence

[arista]

Originally Posted by kazanne

well apparently there WAS an accusation in Jersey I think they said,but they couldn't find enough evidence

Yes but Now she (Dee Coles) was on Our News today
saying at 14
Jimmy took her and her mate into his Van
for Sex.

And he was so Strong - she could not stop him.

So Now Police are on to that, at last.

[Mystic Mock]

If he really done it then it's a disgrace that it's took so long because his a celebrity.

[arista]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

If he really done it then it's a disgrace that it's took so long because his a celebrity.

Who Knew PM's
and Used His Power of Charity and the BBC.

bad days back then.

[lostalex]

The Truth I think is just playing a bit of devil's advocate. I don't think he/she really believes the things he/she says.

[Nedusa]

Maybe the Saville family can try and get a Court Injunction which stops this programme on the grounds of Slander

[Mystic Mock]

Slander which probably is true.

[Scarlett.]

There was always rumours about him, even before he popped his clogs, so I wouldnt be surprised

[Omah]

The BBC is removing all programmes featuring Savile from its schedules, including re-runs of Top of the Pops on BBC4.

West Yorkshire officers are believed to have investigated Savile’s activities in the 1970s aboard a boat on the Leeds canal.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz28Ba12EZM

[Livia]

It's hard to sue someone for slander/defamation/libel when the person being slandered is dead. Almost impossible... a legal minefield.

[Omah]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...-abuse-1356905

Sir Jimmy Savile could be posthumously stripped of his knighthood in the wake of sickening child abuse allegations.

A Cabinet Office source confirmed the “unprecedented” move will be considered if the claims are found to have substance.

Savile was knighted in the Queen’s Birthday Honours list in 1990, in addition to an OBE he received in 1971 for services to charity and broadcasting.

If the allegations are "found to have substance", the stripping of all honours would seem to be the only available "punishment" .....

[Omah]

"My mother had to take me for an illegal abortion"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz28CQOOFcX

A woman has told how she became pregnant after Jimmy Savile lured her to a hotel room and raped her when she was a 16-year-old virgin.

She described how he forced her on to the bed. The pretty blonde teenager weighed just six-and-a-half stone.

Now 65, she recalled the ‘shame’ of being taken to a doctor by her mother to have an illegal abortion, without painkillers, and spent two years paying back her grandmother for the cost of the procedure.

Jeez .....

[arista]

It gets worse
From ITV News, just now


BBC Newsnight scrapped a Report
about Gary Glitter and Jimmy
both fecking 14 year old girls.



BBC Newsnight - You cowards


Feck You

[Scarlett.]

This is an interesting watch

[Omah]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-19813151

Security at the cemetery where TV presenter and DJ Sir Jimmy Savile is buried is being reviewed, Scarborough Borough Council has said.

Andy Skelton, head of environmental services said the council was "reviewing the security arrangements" at Woodlands Cemetery.

A wise move .....