[arista]

From Ch4 News Jon Snow asked why BBC Newsnight
did not show the report as it was like ITV1's report
The BBC bloke said he did not know why it was stopped.
Typical

[Omah]

Also on C4 news - audio recording of Savile and little girl - the latter is subject to inappropriate suggestions and is heard to say "you're crushing me" and "get off my backside"

[arista]

Yes Well Done Ch4News

[Omah]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...#ixzz28MXQonUE

JIMMY Savile abused a girl of NINE at a notorious children’s home in Jersey, it was claimed yesterday.

He put his hand up her skirt and touched her intimately — then did the same to her 11-year-old sister.

The nine-year-old is the youngest person said to have been abused by the Jim’ll Fix It star, who died last year aged 84. Her older sister, now in her 50s, told yesterday for the first time of the attack at the Haut de la Garenne home.

She said hordes of excited children had been bussed across the island to meet the star at the children’s home when he was at the height of his TV fame.

She said: “My sister was sitting on his lap — he was a pervert. He put his hand up my dress and also my sister’s and fumbled around.

“She was nine and I was 11 at the time in 1971. I just ran away and took my sister away from him.”

The older sister made an allegation of indecent assault in 2007 to police at the start of a three-year investigation into child abuse on the island.

She said yesterday she told them of Savile’s abuse when they interviewed her after a picture emerged of him with children from the home. The woman added: “It was brushed under the carpet. There should be an independent inquiry.”

The TV and radio personality initially lied that he had ever been there. Eventually he admitted he had been to Jersey but it was “a million years ago”.

Police found dungeons at the home, where children were systematically abused and tortured.

[MTVN]

Why the change in title?

[Omah]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Why the change in title?

To reflect the latest (relevant) direction in thread content .....

The original title was "Jimmy Savile raped me"

[Mystic Mock]

This guy sounded like a right nasty bastard.

[lostalex]

Change the title back, it's not funny. You don't need to change the title every time the daily mail has a new headline.
Jimmy Savile accused of sex crimes against minors. that title will do.

[Omah]

Originally Posted by lostalex

Change the title back, it's not funny..

It isn't supposed to be .....

You don't need to change the title every time the daily mail has a new headline

Check my sources .....

[arista]

"Change the title back, it's not funny. "


No Alex its
Omahs thread


Also it was not DM
its the sun.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by arista

it was not DM
its the sun.

same difference.

[Livia]

The thread title is surely missing the word "allegedly".

[Omah]

Originally Posted by Livia

The thread title is surely missing the word "allegedly".

Nope, because I'm quoting and not saying - if the Mirror had said "allegedly", I would have quoted it .....

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Omah

Nope, because I'm quoting and not saying - if the Mirror had said "allegedly", I would have quoted it .....

Oh I know that the tabloid press would never lie to us. Right? They're so trustworthy and honourable.

[billy123]

Originally Posted by Livia

The thread title is surely missing the word "allegedly".

Do you really expect anything else from someone that uses the scum as a source?

[Omah]

Originally Posted by bobnot

Do you really expect anything else from someone that uses the scum as a source?

Are you personally attacking me ?

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Omah

Are you personally attacking me ?

don't worry about him, he's still "discovering" himself.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Omah

Are you personally attacking me ?

No he is not
he just hates that paper
thats all.

[Mystic Mock]

It's true Livia as why are so many people coming out saying that he did it?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

It's true Livia as why are so many people coming out saying that he did it?

You don't know it's true, Mock. You are going on unsubtantiated accounts. Don't get me wrong, if some evidence appears, even the smallest piece of evidence that would give substance to all the other claims, then I might rethink it. But right now, we have a dead man who cannot defend himself over what's being claimed, and a whole host of people who said nothing at the time.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Livia

You don't know it's true, Mock. You are going on unsubtantiated accounts. Don't get me wrong, if some evidence appears, even the smallest piece of evidence that would give substance to all the other claims, then I might rethink it. But right now, we have a dead man who cannot defend himself over what's being claimed, and a whole host of people who said nothing at the time.

... and we also have dozens of very much alive women who have no reason to lie and just as much right to tell their stories...

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Livia

You don't know it's true, Mock. You are going on unsubtantiated accounts. Don't get me wrong, if some evidence appears, even the smallest piece of evidence that would give substance to all the other claims, then I might rethink it. But right now, we have a dead man who cannot defend himself over what's being claimed, and a whole host of people who said nothing at the time.

I would normally agree with what your saying as I did defend Michael Jackson at the time, but to me this is one of those rare cases that now that the person is dead the victims don't feel scared to speak about it anymore, and what have they got to gain from calling him a paedophile now his dead? his not gonna get punished for it.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

I would normally agree with what your saying as I did defend Michael Jackson at the time, but to me this is one of those rare cases that now that the person is dead the victims don't feel scared to speak about it anymore, and what have they got to gain from calling him a paedophile now his dead? his not gonna get punished for it.

I have no idea what they have to gain, although a fair few of them have sold their stories for cash, which always weakens credibility, I think. If so many people were involved, and so many people knew, doesn't it strike you as strange considering the volume of them who are finding their voice now, that none of them came forward during his lifetime? I understand the difficulty when they were children, but some of these women are now in their fifties, and at no time did any of them feel strong enough to speak out? This isn't the first case of someone being accused after they're dead, it just happens to suit the public feeling because Jimmy Saville was creepy and an oddbod which is not against the law.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Livia

I have no idea what they have to gain, although a fair few of them have sold their stories for cash, which always weakens credibility, I think. If so many people were involved, and so many people knew, doesn't it strike you as strange considering the volume of them who are finding their voice now, that none of them came forward during his lifetime? I understand the difficulty when they were children, but some of these women are now in their fifties, and at no time did any of them feel strong enough to speak out? This isn't the first case of someone being accused after they're dead, it just happens to suit the public feeling because Jimmy Saville was creepy and an oddbod which is not against the law.

It depends if he threatened them or whatever, also aswell he was a powerful man in the Showbiz world and everyone knows that if your famous you don't get into much trouble with the law so they probably gave up pressing charges at the time.

[lostalex]

Accused would suffice.