[Livia]

I didn't watch the first series but I've been hooked on this one and I'm excited for the final. I'd like to see Andrew win. Harry's good, but a bit too cocky, the girls are a pair of sheep. Jaz is okay... but Andrew ftw for me.

Hope Claudia continues with this, she's excellent.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Livia

I didn't watch the first series but I've been hooked on this one and I'm excited for the final. I'd like to see Andrew win. Harry's good, but a bit too cocky, the girls are a pair of sheep. Jaz is okay... but Andrew ftw for me.

Hope Claudia continues with this, she's excellent.

Totally agree..Would be more than happy to see Andrew win.

[Vanessa]

I think Harry will win. Unless Andrew exposes him.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I think Harry will win. Unless Andrew exposes him.

Either Jas or Andrew will expose him...I hope. Harry has played a good game but I really don't want him to win.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Either Jas or Andrew will expose him...I hope. Harry has played a good game but I really don't want him to win.

I love Harry. He's been so brilliant so far.

[Strictly Jake]

Yeah Andrew is my winner

[Cherie]

a Harry win is too predictable...Andrew all the way

Harry will do well after this anyway he will make a ton of dosh, Andrew will go back to his normal life

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

If Harry has a girlfriend that works at the BBC company, then I could see the Show giving him an extra help in hand to win.

I mean there has been a fair amount of help from production towards Harry this season, and it now makes sense as to why.

I didn't want to think it but even when Ross got banished, all he did was reveal he's Diane's son. His revenge plan never happened. And even when he told everyone he's " a traitor", why didn't he do something to incriminate Harry . I know he can't out out Harry at that point, but he could have done something surely , so that was disappointing and fell flat .

Yeah it just all seems a bit sus and convenient, I hate when shows are rigged...I kept hoping I was wrong. But isn't is interesting out of 8 players and Harry of all people get's the sword . I'm just glad the only power he had was to take 7 grand and not instantly banish someone there and then , as twists and turns are plenty in this game.

Everyone thinks Harry put money back into the pot ,as he's a 'team player ', and how it would be wrong to take the money...wow he's well and truly pulled the wool over their eyes. The more I think about that moment the more I think ...if you know you're going to win or if you think you're going to lose surely that would impact your decision to take the 7 grand .


If it was me I would like to be a team player,but if I also thought I was going to get banished ,then I'd probably take the 7k as it's not like I'm taking 100k . And atleast if I lose I could say well I won 7k which isn't bad .

Harry is so sure of himself , he knows or thinks he will win the entire prize fund . Jaz definitely was on to him when he did his little speech about them all winning as faithfuls. But everyone else is oblivious as usual.

Originally Posted by Ammi

….ahhhhh, there you are, GH……I’ve missed your episode summaries…I thought maybe you had gone up there to the Traitor mansion to give all of those faithfuls a good shake……


…with regards to Ross when he was recruited…?..yeah, he could have really mixed it all up and maybe created that faithful turn needed because his headset wasn’t yet of a Traitor, was it…I think for me, the problem with so may of the faithfuls this season I’d that they’ve ‘reasoned’ with their hearts and not with their heads and power of working things through with logic…and Ross at the round table that last time just displayed that perfectly…Harry was his target and if he had succeeded in banishing Harry or at least planting those seeds that were needed and have others doubting Harry…then he could then turn to Andrew ….but Andrew’s dishonesty really got into his blood…I mean, what does he think bring a Traitor is…?…it’s a dishonest occupation is the whole thing…but that seemed to be filling him more than any revenge for Diane and the dismissive way Harry had shrugged off Diane’s killing…I feel that the downfall of the faithfuls this season has been that they’ve voted with their hearts and friendships …

…I don’t think there is any way that Harry isn’t going to take the prize as a Traitor this season…I think it’s just whether he tries to take it alone and casts doubt and suspicion over Andrew or whether they share it…Jaz is the only one who has ever had any doubts with Harry but I don’t think those doubts will be enough for Harry not to walk away as the winner or one of them…

I was behind Wednesday and Thursday so I had to watch both last night . Wow can't believe it's the final tonight.

And I agree about the faithfuls strategy or rather lack of ... especially Mollie who will really face palm when it's all over .

She's like Hannah with Wilf last year, the whole point of the Traitors is to suspect everyone and open your eyes. But they seem to think these people are their BFFS, like I said Harry not murdering Mollie is so sus .And nobody clocked onto that, instead they went on a wild goose chase theory about Harry's shield , but they didn't cover all bases .And Jasmine paid the price. Which makes me think Evie is definitely next .

Harry knew he could manipulate Mollie , and she hasn't twigged and never will until she watches it all back. I think even when it's revealed that Harry is a traitor at the fire pit , Mollie will probably still refuse to believe it lmao .

I'm not even a Harry fan ,and now hearing about him possibly being in the BBC's pocket has annoyed me . But I only wanted him to win to see the reaction of the faithfuls ,and so Jaz can go " I told you so " .

I don't think Jaz will push too hard to get rid of Harry ,I honestly think it's too late now anyway .

[UserSince2005]

Originally Posted by UserSince2005

Miles said he was a late recruit in his exit speech. Why was Ross banned from doing so too!!!!!! BBC I want answers. Wouldn’t be surprised if Harry is connected to someone at the BBC and they are just giving away licence fee payers money to their own.

What the actual **** his girlfriend works for the BBC. I cannot believe it. I wrote the above as a completely out there statement and turns out it’s true!!!

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by UserSince2005

What the actual **** his girlfriend works for the BBC. I cannot believe it. I wrote the above as a completely out there statement and turns out it’s true!!!

Did you see the link I posted , looks like Harry is producers favourite.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Did you see the link I posted , looks like Harry is producers favourite.

But he might not win. Andrew could win it as well.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

I didn't want to think it but even when Ross got banished, all he did was reveal he's Diane's son. His revenge plan never happened. And even when he told everyone he's " a traitor", why didn't he do something to incriminate Harry . I know he can't out out Harry at that point, but he could have done something surely , so that was disappointing and fell flat .

Yeah it just all seems a bit sus and convenient, I hate when shows are rigged...I kept hoping I was wrong. But isn't is interesting out of 8 players and Harry of all people get's the sword . I'm just glad the only power he had was to take 7 grand and not instantly banish someone there and then , as twists and turns are plenty in this game.

Everyone thinks Harry put money back into the pot ,as he's a 'team player ', and how it would be wrong to take the money...wow he's well and truly pulled the wool over their eyes. The more I think about that moment the more I think ...if you know you're going to win or if you think you're going to lose surely that would impact your decision to take the 7 grand .


If it was me I would like to be a team player,but if I also thought I was going to get banished ,then I'd probably take the 7k as it's not like I'm taking 100k . And atleast if I lose I could say well I won 7k which isn't bad .

Harry is so sure of himself , he knows or thinks he will win the entire prize fund . Jaz definitely was on to him when he did his little speech about them all winning as faithfuls. But everyone else is oblivious as usual.







I was behind Wednesday and Thursday so I had to watch both last night . Wow can't believe it's the final tonight.

And I agree about the faithfuls strategy or rather lack of ... especially Mollie who will really face palm when it's all over .

She's like Hannah with Wilf last year, the whole point of the Traitors is to suspect everyone and open your eyes. But they seem to think these people are their BFFS, like I said Harry not murdering Mollie is so sus .And nobody clocked onto that, instead they went on a wild goose chase theory about Harry's shield , but they didn't cover all bases .And Jasmine paid the price. Which makes me think Evie is definitely next .

Harry knew he could manipulate Mollie , and she hasn't twigged and never will until she watches it all back. I think even when it's revealed that Harry is a traitor at the fire pit , Mollie will probably still refuse to believe it lmao .

I'm not even a Harry fan ,and now hearing about him possibly being in the BBC's pocket has annoyed me . But I only wanted him to win to see the reaction of the faithfuls ,and so Jaz can go " I told you so " .

I don't think Jaz will push too hard to get rid of Harry ,I honestly think it's too late now anyway .

With regard to Ross he didnt expect to be out the day after he was recruited so he didn't really have time to plan against Harry also he couldn't incriminate him as they take the traitors oath not to reveal the identity of the others

[Cherie]

If Andrew is clever he will use the knowing about the shield to save himself, if he tells Harry if he is revealed as a traitor the faithfuls will know Harry wasnt targeted at all...as Andrew knew about the shield and they should suss that someone was recruited

My son says Molly has set women back 50 years with her fate in Harry

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Cherie

With regard to Ross he didnt expect to be out the day after he was recruited so he didn't really have time to plan against Harry also he couldn't incriminate him as they take the traitors oath not to reveal the identity of the others

Do you watch uncloacked podcast, Ross was being interviewed ...and he himself said he knew it was basically curtains for him , especially when Zack came at him at the breakfast table,and the whole shield thing.

His strategy of trying to turn Andrew & Harry against eachother was weak . And he should have just stuck to the original plan of taking Harry down.

They take the oath ,but plenty of Traitors still throw eachother under the bus ...which is what Ross tried doing with Andrew which was a waste of time.

So my point is Ross could have still tried throwing suspicion Harry's way at the roundtable,he already mentioned his name outside to other players. There's plenty of ways he could draw attention to Harry without revealing the identity etc .

Last year Kieran gave big hints not to trust Wilf....he even kept eye balling Wilf as a warning,and he took Wilf down
with him lol. which is exactly what Ross could have done with Harry ...but he chickened out .

I think Ross was still finding his feet ,as granted it was barely 1 day of him being a traitor. So his mind was probably still scrambled.

[GoldHeart]

Before the firepit , at the final round table I think it will backfire if Jaz tries going for Harry , unless he manages to really get the other faithfuls on his side which I have my doubts.

Mollie will probably cry and start throwing the blame back onto Jaz like he offended her family or something,for going for her precious Harry . And Evie will probably turn on Jaz aswell. Both those 2 are like sheep .

I know I keep saying this , but how has Mollie defending Harry to the highest gone under the radar. I know they're similar age group. But if I was in the game... I'd think she was related to him or his old school pal , weird how their friendship is never questioned.

Jaz already tried confiding in Zack & Evie about his suspicions with the whole Paul & Harry dynamic,and they both look puzzled at him and laughed it off. Nobody listens to poor Jaz . So he might aswell just vote tactically at the round table unless of course Andrew tag teams in helping get rid of Harry ,but I just don't know with Andrew....I think he's too worried for his own skin.

The best outcome would be Andrew winning on his own instead of Harry ,but either way I'm looking forward to their faces when it's revealed that jumped up little squirt Harry has pulled the wool over their eyes .

[Swan]

Binged watched this. Glad Harry won tbh, he played it so well. However, i don't buy that this show is fully genuine at all.

[Ammi]

…poor lovely Mollie……but sadly, she was ruled by her friendship in a game that was all about deception….they were a nice cast ……but their mistakes were just to many to recover from and get on track because there was very little reasoning this season…well done, Harry…he absorbed it all from the beginning and played it at the right time…he played like a faithful, as he said and his tactic made him a winner……

[rusticgal]

Gutted….he played a good game but when you have Mollies in this world who get suckered in with a good looking guy it can help your game immensely. She deserved to lose.

[Cherie]

anti climax ending....great show needed to end on a twist...

[Swan]

Originally Posted by Cherie

anti climax ending....great show needed to end on a twist...

They seemed to drag out the last part, but after Harry was crowned winner it ended very abruptly. Not sure why they didn't give the final 90 mins?!

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Gutted….he played a good game but when you have Mollies in this world who get suckered in with a good looking guy it can help your game immensely. She deserved to lose.

I laughed my head off as it was so predictable , tiring and funny all at the same time , I knew Mollie would fck it all up and lose, i knew she'd become an emotional wreck . Jaz tried to help her and he brought up evidence and facts and she refused to listen... he even complimented her in good nature by saying he trusted her by his side , but she was a gullible fool who had a big crush on Harry and fell for his silly puppy dog eyes.

Only person i feel sorry for is Jaz, he played a really good game. Really clever and decent guy who i wish all the best for, and imo he deserved to win the most . Just think both him and Mollie could have shared the money and been celebrating with a glass of bubbly but she ruined it by shaking like a leaf and acting like a blubbering mess, i wonder why Claudia let her change her mind... i thought once the votes were 'locked in' that that was that. I guess Claudia wanted them all to be 100% sure .

Mollie must feel really dumb and slow after writing Harry down and then changing it, i knew she'd mess it all up. She'd lay down her life for jumped up squirt Harry.. and he sold her down the river and was using her the whole time, maybe when she watches it back she'll click and put 2 & 2 together as to why she was never murdered LOL .

But it was an entertaining final just as i suspected , all the way through Mollie is saying she'll never talk to Harry if he's a traitor etc etc . She treated Harry like he was her soul mate . It's weird she put that much faith and trust in a complete stranger she's only known a few weeks. And even when she had a smidge of doubt ... she got scared and changed her mind and let herself get manipulated once again. The players have really made it easy for Harry this year , and Mollie handed him the win in the palm of his hands.

[Mystic Mock]

Tbf I think that Harry deserved to win based off of the finale.

Evie tbf got harmed by the Shield twist, so there wasn't really much that she could do.

I like Jaz, but he ultimately was a coward at the game, and left it too late to start playing.

Andrew similarly was also a bit too cowardly imo, and left it too long to start attempting to flip the numbers on Harry.

And Mollie is the player that I feel was the most annoying contestant by the end, she sees how the final is playing out, yet she still voted Jaz out which makes no logical sense considering he was the only one that wanted to carry on banishing at that point.

Plus I didn't like her attitude towards Harry in the episode, he was assigned a role to be one of the Traitors, she was being really unfair to him imo.

Overall a very good Season, it definitely had some questionable production interference, but overall I had a lot of fun watching it.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

yeah...like being the last to pick the sword last night.

Exactly.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Tbf I think that Harry deserved to win based off of the finale.

Evie tbf got harmed by the Shield twist, so there wasn't really much that she could do.

I like Jaz, but he ultimately was a coward at the game, and left it too late to start playing.

Andrew similarly was also a bit too cowardly imo, and left it too long to start attempting to flip the numbers on Harry.

And Mollie is the player that I feel was the most annoying contestant by the end, she sees how the final is playing out, yet she still voted Jaz out which makes no logical sense considering he was the only one that wanted to carry on banishing at that point.

Plus I didn't like her attitude towards Harry in the episode, he was assigned a role to be one of the Traitors, she was being really unfair to him imo.

Overall a very good Season, it definitely had some questionable production interference, but overall I had a lot of fun watching it.

Agree with all this. Jaz turned out to be such a coward and Mollie was so gullible. When Jaz went for 'red' at the final 3, she STILL thought Harry wasn't a traitor.
I wanted Andrew to win, but fair play, Harry deserved it, he was brilliant.
Claudia was wonderful....loved it all. Now on to the Australian one...

[UserSince2005]

Fuming. Complete set up. Why was Harry allowed to speak in Jaz’s chance to explain his vote? Why was Molly encouraged to change her vote by Claudia extending the time to vote?
Let me guess, Harry’s girlfriend’s dad is a BBC exec. The nepetism of that corporation is sick.