[Milo]

Makosi and her gang.On the second week they picked out Sam.And now Saskia,then it'll be Craig,Maxwell follow by Anthony.They said Saskia and co are bullies,what nonsense.Maxwell,Saskia and Anthony helped Sam when she was bullied by Lesley.Derek,Roberto,Makosi,Kemal,Vanessa and Craig did not intervene.Im glad that Craig has come to the good group.

[GlitterEyes]

I think all of the housemates are bullies in some sense they have each done things which relate to bullying in my eyes just some more than others.

[Turk_Diddler]

As I understand it, Saskia, who was struggling to find her feet, befriended Sam in the early days because Sam was at least gaining popularity with the boys, but as soon as the tides turned on Sam, Saskia hardly registered her existence.

p.s. I'm sorry I don't sound enough like Vicki Pollard.

[AndyJK]

As with the last series you have the housemates split into two groups spitting poison at each other. Both sides have shown aggressive behaviour with the main protagonists being Maxwell, Saskia and Science but if you ask me Team Saska is waay ahead in the bullying stakes.

I don't like Maxwell at all (although Im happy for him to stay purely because he is a character). He can get very nasty and easily wound up as we saw in tonight's BB highlights where he threw something (water I believe) into Kamel's face after he, quite understandably, made a few bitchy comments at him and Saskia err..'frolicking' under the sheets. I don't like Saskia either. She and Maxwell are both selfish, self-centred conceited, dim-witted sex-obsessed chavs who make lotto-lout Michael Carrol seem like Professor Steven Hawking!

[GlitterEyes]

Ive seen plenty of other chavs who are far far worse...I personally like Maxwell and find him very entertaining.

[AndyJK]

Originally posted by GlitterEyes
Ive seen plenty of other chavs who are far far worse...I personally like Maxwell and find him very entertaining.

I did say he was a character and therefore he is entertaining and long may he stay in the house. But I dont like him as a person. He has a very bad attitude.

[Milo]

Originally posted by AndyJK
As with the last series you have the housemates split into two groups spitting poison at each other. Both sides have shown aggressive behaviour with the main protagonists being Maxwell, Saskia and Science but if you ask me Team Saska is waay ahead in the bullying stakes.

I don't like Maxwell at all (although I'm happy for him to stay purely because he is a character). He can get very nasty and easily wound up as we saw in tonight's BB highlights where he threw something (water I believe) into Kamel's face after he, quite understandably, made a few bitchy comments at him and Saskia err..'frolicking' under the sheets. I don't like
Saskia either. She and Maxwell are both selfish, self-centred conceited, dim-witted sex-obsessed chavs who make lotto-lout Michael Carrol seem like Professor Steven Hawking!

Wouldn't you be angry if someone said nasty comments to your girlfriend?Maxwell's quality is that he treat women well,protects them and cares about them.

[GlitterEyes]

I think 90% of people his age have a bad attitude and thats part of growing up and people learn in time. I think science also has a bad attitude when it comes to arguements and he stirs things up.

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by GlitterEyes
I think 90% of people his age have a bad attitude and thats part of growing up and people learn in time. I think science also has a bad attitude when it comes to arguements and he stirs things up.

You would have hoped at his age he would have grown out of it.

[Milo]

What could he do when day in day out people come up to him to wind him up?He could not walk away everytime,he does talk sense in all his arguements though.

[AndyJK]

Originally posted by Milo

Wouldn't you be angry if someone said nasty comments to your girlfriend?Maxwell's quality is that he treat women well,protects them and cares about them.

Saskia isnt his girlfriend though. And if it was me in his position, I would take into consideration that I'm a contestent on a gameshow with my actions being watched by millions of people. There are ways to defend people against criticizm without resorting to thuggish behaviour.

And yes, as Ive already mentioned Science is also a bit of a bully. He is very provocative with his mannerisms. He clearly enjoys winding up Maxwell.

[GlitterEyes]

In a way him winding maxwell up is also part of a plan maybe to get maxwell evicted...by big brother rather than the public.

[AndyJK]

Originally posted by GlitterEyes
In a way him winding maxwell up is also part of a plan maybe to get maxwell evicted...by big brother rather than the public.

Well if thats his plan then hes doing a good job of it so far. Hes not called 'Science' for nothing you know Maybe if Maxwell wasn't such a pleb he'd handle the situation better and use it to his advantage. At the moment its a case of brawn vs err.. brain (loosely termed).

[Milo]

Originally posted by AndyJK

Saskia isnt his girlfriend though. And if it was me in his position, I would take into consideration that I'm a contestent on a gameshow with my actions being watched by millions of people. There are ways to defend people against criticizm without resorting to thuggish behaviour.

And yes, as Ive already mentioned Science is also a bit of a bully. He is very provocative with his mannerisms. He clearly enjoys winding up Maxwell.

Now you said it.It showed Maxwell doesn't always think of the presence of the cameras.He is definitely genuine.

[Turk_Diddler]

Maxwell's quality is that he treat women well,protects them and cares about them.

I'm personally doubtful that all-willing obedience is much of a quality when it comes to treating a woman, particularly when it's fueled by a horny undercurrent that leads a chap paw at his sweetheart 24/7 whether she's in the mood or not.
At least I'd hope there are more to decent relationships than that!

[BrainDrain]

Milo - I just joined as the C4 forum is down but if your comments are typical - I think i will go where max is seen for what he is. I really didlike the use of 'end of' except in the phrase tomorrow is the start of 'end of' Team smug

[Slartibartfast]

Originally posted by Milo
Makosi and her gang.On the second week they picked out Sam.And now Saskia,then it'll be Craig,Maxwell follow by Anthony.They said Saskia and co are bullies,what nonsense.

This isn't bullying, it's playing the game and they've played it well. Maxwell at Kemal last night that was bullying.

And when Saskia and her lot ganged up to get Derek and Roberto up for eviction, was that bullying then? You'll probably say no cos whatever Saskia et al do is perfect and they can do no wrong in your eyes.

[makosi]

Originally posted by Milo
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Wouldn't you be angry if someone said nasty comments to your girlfriend?Maxwell's quality is that he treat women well,protects them and cares about them.

Nasty comments? The two of them should have been doing their stuff in private. They thought they were so important and showing off for the cameras. There was never any justification for bullying Kemal. How brave of the yob

[makosi]

Originally posted by Milo

Wouldn't you be angry if someone said nasty comments to your girlfriend?Maxwell's quality is that he treat women well,protects them and cares about them.

Treats women well? You mean he acts like a thuggish bully against smaller guys. What decent woman wants a thug like that?

[Sunny_01]

I think that all of this years HMs are bullying others in some way. Derek bullies Science with his superior ways, Science bullies everyone with his shouting and dictating ways like I am going to be Narrator! Maxwell I love but agree he is a bit of a bully especially with Kemal who I have to say plays the victim well! Makosi bullies through her manipulation of others and her sneaky ways. Vanessa does it by bitching to Makosi et al and encouraging them to dislike other HMs even more. Ant does it to Craig even though Craig doenst really see it. Craig is a lot like Makosi just less masculine lol. Saskia is possibly one of the biggest bullies in there with her sniping ways and her black looks at people. Kemal does it by making the others think he is a victim but really he is manipulating them he knows what he is doing!

God I could go on but they are just my thoughts

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[Slartibartfast]

It all depends on how you want to define bully and I think you've given it a bit of a wide definition. Manipulating people and using people to your own ends is not bullying in my book. Of course it depends also on how it's done, but I wouldn't generally classify it as bullying. I certainly wouldn't agree that what Vanessa, Craig, Makosi or Kemal does is bullying

Certainly what Maxwell has done on a few times is bullying, no argument. He faces up to people, becomes very agressive and loud! Science has also done stuff like this. Derek can be a bully at times, but no where near as physcial as Maxwell and Science have been. He uses his age and intelligence to bully people as cos he's older he somehow feels his opinion is more valid, and can bully people down to agree with him. Bullying doesn't have to have a physcial element to it but if it does it's all the easier to spot.

I just think that complaining that Makosi et al are bullying people simply cos they got Sam and Saskia both up for eviction (which is what the post that started this thread is suggesting) is nonsense! They played the game better and are in the stronger position. Again, there were no calls of bullying from the "Maskia" fans when they got together and put Derek and Roberto up.

[InTheHood]

Originally posted by makosi

Treats women well? You mean he acts like a thuggish bully against smaller guys. What decent woman wants a thug like that?

Sadly, decent women are few and far between, or another way of looking at it, women who respect themselves enough, to say 'No, I won't be treated like this'

[Lance]

Bullying is classed as intimidating behaviour towards others yes?

Now I have yet to see Makosi intimidate anyone,same with Kemal.I would consider throwing a glass of water at someone as intimidating.So therefore that means in my opinion Science and Max are bullies.I do think Max gets very intimidating in there at times.I don't think he's a bully,just cant stay away from conflict.Science on the other hand just looks for conflict.

The real bully in thee was Lesley and one of ma mates has a forum for her and Lesley.lets just say wasnt very nice about it!Cannot divulge any more info on that!

I think if anyone in there is a bully it's Craig.He is the real intimidator but in a very discreet way.It's people like him who belittle others and make them feel left out.He is very insecure,you can tell that straight away,but he tries to put on a front.And we all know that insecure people are the ones who pinpoint and bully others to take eyes off themselves.Craig is the bully.

[speakerbox]

i think all the housemates have at some point used bully-like behaviour.
Makosi and co seem to constantly bitch about saskia, its like ther obssessed! Maxwell uses intimidating behaviour like throwing water over kemal, didnt science throw water over him too!!? They are all as bad as each other in my eyes

[hass]

all of them are bullies i think!!