[gothic_gangsta]

them three siavash,halfwit and marcus are the massive gameplayers.they knew one of them would of been up thats why siavash decided not to vote........

[setanta]

I just don't like the incessant conversations about gameplans and their own theories. It's getting very, very dull and I found their words on Hira, just after she'd walked out the door, to be a little out of order and unnecessary. Fair play to David for standing up for her.

They just can't let it go...... and for people who claim not to really give a toss about the game, they spend an awful lot of time reviewing and commenting on it.

[Brad.]

How is marcus a gameplayer?

[ange7]

Originally posted by gothic_gangsta
them three siavash,halfwit and marcus are the massive gameplayers.they knew one of them would of been up thats why siavash decided not to vote........

lol ...Siavash thought by not nominating he would be up .... NOT the rest of the house. That's why your point is a fail.

[Jordan.]

Freddie is

[gothic_gangsta]

Originally posted by ange7

lol ...Siavash thought by not nominating he would be up .... NOT the rest of the house. That's why your point is a fail.

no siavash knew marcus or freddie would be up and he did not want that at all

[gothic_gangsta]

Originally posted by Bradley.
How is marcus a gameplayer?

he chats crap about people to others who he wants up, just before nominations

[ange7]

Originally posted by gothic_gangsta

no siavash knew marcus or freddie would be up and he did not want that at all

ummm but he didn't know by not nominating that ALL would be up. In the past only the person not nominating went up. Secondly once he knew off BB's plan he asked to nominate but BB said "please leave the dr".

Siavash couldn't have known all this before hand so how was it his game plan? Your idea doesn't add up.

[gothic_gangsta]

Originally posted by ange7

ummm but he didn't know by not nominating that ALL would be up. In the past only the person not nominating went up. Secondly once he knew off BB's plan he asked to nominate but BB said "please leave the dr".

Siavash couldn't have known all this before hand so how was it his game plan? Your idea doesn't add up.

he knew that an all eviction was soon to be happening...and by him breaking the rules it did

[ange7]

Originally posted by gothic_gangsta

he knew that an all eviction was soon to be happening...and by him breaking the rules it did

hmmmm ok ... that all seems in order hehe

[halfacrown]

Every single one of them is concerned at how they're being perceived in the outside world and each one of them has modified their behaviour accordingly at some time or another. They each have a survival strategy which inevitably gets attuned to who’s vulnerable or not. The weekly vote is designed to encourage conflict and 'game plans'.

[WOMBAI]

Originally posted by Bradley.
How is marcus a gameplayer?

You don't think playing the 'naughty schoolboy' and getting lots of airtime as a result is gameplayiing! He is one of the biggest gameplayers in there!

A comparison was made between him and John McCrurick on bblb - which I thought was very apt! I knew Marcus reminded me of someone - but had forgotten about McCrurick. Marcus is just a younger version!! The way he looks, the 'bad behaviour' - throwing tantrums, swearing at bb etc, the vulgar habits, the crude remarks about women - they could be related!!!Only difference is that McCrurick is the 'original' and he did it better! Can't stand either of them!!!! Marcus will be forgetten as easily and as quickly as McCruick!

Thought Marcus was vile when he started 'bitching' about Hira - saying she had a gameplan! The only one that didn't!

Marcus was just trying to plant the 'seed of doubt' in other hm's and the public's minds - as he was concerned that Hira could pose a threat - as a lot of people would like her for her niceness - as happened with Rachael Rice!

He is a real schemer!!

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

Marcus & Freddie are always talking about people in the house having game plans, these two are the biggest game players in there .... IMHO, thats why i want them both out.

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

Originally posted by COMMONSENSE

You don't think playing the 'naughty schoolboy' and getting lots of airtime as a result is gameplayiing! He is one of the biggest gameplayers in there!

A comparison was made between him and John McCrurick on bblb - which I thought was very apt! I knew Marcus reminded me of someone - but had forgotten about McCrurick. Marcus is just a younger version!! The way he looks, the 'bad behaviour' - throwing tantrums, swearing at bb etc, the vulgar habits, the crude remarks about women - they could be related!!!Only difference is that McCrurick is the 'original' and he did it better! Can't stand either of them!!!! Marcus will be forgetten as easily and as quickly as McCruick!

Thought Marcus was vile when he started 'bitching' about Hira - saying she had a gameplan! The only one that didn't!

Marcus was just trying to plant the 'seed of doubt' in other hm's and the public's minds - as he was concerned that Hira could pose a threat - as a lot of people would like her for her niceness - as happened with Rachael Rice!

He is a real schemer!!

Totally agree with everything you've just said COMMONSENSE, i really cant get my head around why people like Marcus its beyond me, i think hes a totall a***hole, just like McCrurick... IMHO

[SiCkBuLLeT]

It is a Game Show wih a prize

[gothic_gangsta]

Originally posted by SiCkBuLLeT
It is a Game Show wih a prize

we know
but they need to stop saying others have a gameplan when they sooooo do

[reallynow]

Originally posted by setanta
I just don't like the incessant conversations about gameplans and their own theories. It's getting very, very dull and I found their words on Hira, just after she'd walked out the door, to be a little out of order and unnecessary. Fair play to David for standing up for her.

They just can't let it go...... and for people who claim not to really give a toss about the game, they spend an awful lot of time reviewing and commenting on it.

Sentana I like you, spot on mate!

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

Originally posted by setanta
I just don't like the incessant conversations about gameplans and their own theories. It's getting very, very dull and I found their words on Hira, just after she'd walked out the door, to be a little out of order and unnecessary. Fair play to David for standing up for her.

They just can't let it go...... and for people who claim not to really give a toss about the game, they spend an awful lot of time reviewing and commenting on it.

Totally agree with you setanta

[gothic_gangsta]

Originally posted by SPIDERPIG!
Freddie is

he is the biggest one there

[davidalbert]

........yes Bea and Marcus were saved this week! GO! Team marcus! yippee!

As for GAMEPLAYING........er, BB IS a game.

[noirin4eva]

Originally posted by ange7

ummm but he didn't know by not nominating that ALL would be up. In the past only the person not nominating went up. Secondly once he knew off BB's plan he asked to nominate but BB said "please leave the dr".

Siavash couldn't have known all this before hand so how was it his game plan? Your idea doesn't add up.

that may not have been Siavash' game plan but he does have one of the biggest in the house. I always found it strange how his persona changed so much after Cairon left. He knew he needed to take drastic action as he would be disliked as well so he changed from an arrogant immature teenager to a laid back compassionate "messiah". Even used the Noirin thing to play the sad little used boy.

[Shasown]

The reason for the comment on Hira was a way of coping with the shock, as far as they were aware it was a normal eviction except they were all up.

Normal evictions are vote to evict so they couldnt understand why people had in their eyes voted to evict Hira. Consequently the thought would have been she wasnt what she seemd to them as the public had voted her out.

Accusing someone of having a gameplan is a tactic in itself, it creates divisions and controvery in the house, and it could obviously be used as part of a gameplan.

You have to take a cynical view of all housemates including your own favourites if you want to see who is really playing the game to win.

"I am there for the experience" means I want to win the money. If you want that sort of experience you could sort one out for yourself without the probability of public ridicule.

"I am there to further my modelling career" is a genuinely selfish but legitimate excuse for being there.

Bea is the most obvious gameplayer though, very strange when you think about it she knows exactly what she is doing, and yet does it anyway, stirring trouble, hypocrisy, using Freddie as an anchor then playing up to Marcus and Siavash, being the bitch.

But they all have gameplans of sorts, even the simple just go in and be myself is in effect a gameplan.

[ange7]

Originally posted by noirin4eva

that may not have been Siavash' game plan but he does have one of the biggest in the house. I always found it strange how his persona changed so much after Cairon left. He knew he needed to take drastic action as he would be disliked as well so he changed from an arrogant immature teenager to a laid back compassionate "messiah". Even used the Noirin thing to play the sad little used boy.

he played her...Noirin SAID she played him. Deal with.

As for changing after Cairon left..... well...they were mates and were close. You saying his change in personality after Cairon left was part of a plan? lol
Noirin changed after she lost her specs...was that part of a game plan too?

[Angus]

Originally posted by SPIDERPIG!
Freddie is

Yes he is, and so is every single person in that house, and if you think any different you must be very naive. BB is a game, and it is quite right and sensible to have a game plan. If you can figure out other people's game plan then you can devise strategies to ensure their game plan fails.

After all the whole point of BB is to try and win it.

HMs Game Plans:

Dogface - be miss sweet and innocent (yeah we believe you)
Charlie: - Be the cheeky chappie (Trouble is he is deeply unpleasant and totally unfunny)
Lisa: To be the "mother" of the house, but only works with morons like Kris, Dogface and Charlie
Marcus - Be the Rebel in the house
Rodders : Be the decent, law abiding one (hypocrite that he is)
Bea - allied herself to those she knew were popular outside,l now aspires to do a "Noirin" and be the house siren
Siavash - tried to be non confrontational and inoffensive for the first few weeks, then got involved with trollope Noirin, so decided to detach himself from the game by trying to get himself put up for eviction. Watch him revert to original gameplan now he has been saved
David: banging on about being there for the experience, yet allies himself to house hag Lisa to gain strength to beat down the opposition. Unfortunately for him he's as thick as sh*t.
Freddie : his game plan is to suss out everyone else's and to make sure that they are all exposed so that we, the public, can actually make informed choices about the HMs. he involved thepublic in his game plan from the early weeks when he would go into the diary room and do his reports and observations.
Hira: of course Marcus was spot on, be Mrs Nice, not a bad word to say about anybody etc, be everyone's friend, etc.,no wonder she was shocked to be evicted


Any HM who denies having a game plan is a *****ing liar

[Beastie]

they might have gameplayed.. to try and get all the house up!! but i think freddie and marcus are purely being themselves!!!!!

siavash looks a bit sneaky at times though!!