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Tom · 08-08-2009, 12:50 PM

Works so much better. I wanted Hira to stay but she'll be no real loss to the house. If it was a vote to evict we would've lost Bea who is far more entertaining and central within the house

President · 08-08-2009, 12:57 PM

Yeah, I'd agree. But I think in a 2 person eviction, Vote to Save wouldn't make a difference.

You'd need at least 3 up to make a difference.

But yeah, even though I thought Hira was a sweetheart, her eviction will have no impact on the series.

A Vote to Evict would have meant Lisa or Bea going and that definitely would have affected the series, probably for the worse.

Brad. · 08-08-2009, 12:58 PM

I agree tom

Vicky. · 08-08-2009, 12:58 PM

Agree totally.

it should always be vote to save.

And the 3 people with the most noms go up, rather than 2

28thapril · 08-08-2009, 01:02 PM

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Agree totally.

it should always be vote to save.

And the 3 people with the most noms go up, rather than 2

I agree with this 2 up is not enough you need 3 better compertition then

Beso · 08-08-2009, 01:23 PM

I have always thought it would be better having the public vote for thier favourites from the end of the eviction show all the way through the following week until the following eviction night.

The housemates would then have to chose who they want to be evicted in a live face to face wekkly friday night eviction show, from the two who have the least amount of votes. IE the two less popular with the public.

It makes sense to me but ah don't know if ah've explained it well enough.

bananarama · 08-08-2009, 01:33 PM

I agree with those saying a vote to save and a minimum of three up would be a better option......Anything that can help negate the effect of hate merchants ruining story lines can only be of benefit....

If BB 11 be the last BB ever I hope they adopt a vote to save and a compulsary minimum of three up for eviction.......Along with no eviction at all for the first two weeks at least so that housemates and viewer alike can get to know housemates better before drawing conclusions......

Hasty conclusions from both public and housemates leads to the early loss of potentialy interesting and entertaining characters

bananarama · 08-08-2009, 01:35 PM

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I have always thought it would be better having the public vote for thier favourites from the end of the eviction show all the way through the following week until the following eviction night.

The housemates would then have to chose who they want to be evicted in a live face to face wekkly friday night eviction show, from the two who have the least amount of votes. IE the two less popular with the public.

It makes sense to me but ah don't know if ah've explained it well enough.

Interesting idea but I personally would only like to see that as a possible twist and not a regular feature......Good valid suggestion none the less.......

Beso · 08-08-2009, 01:40 PM

thanks bananaramma..nice pic..good laugh her.

Anhother thing that bugs me has to do with nominations and the reasons for them.

Just about every week there have been many housemates using reasons that they themselves have been guilty of as well.

things like dogface saying marcus swears a lot when she has one of the worst mouths in the place...

If I was bb i would just tell nthem straight in the diary room.

Eh hud oan a minute darlin...yer jist the same yersel eh !..try again will ye.

setanta · 08-08-2009, 01:41 PM

I totally disagree with always having it as a vote to save. People are notoriously fickle when it comes to their favourites and when its voting time you wont see many huge patterns changes and the show will be far too dull and predictable.

By having it has a vote to evict, the votes automatically shift far more dramatically, thus improving it as a spectacle and keeping contestants and audience continually on their toes. It literally changes from week to week..... makes the show far more alive.

setanta · 08-08-2009, 01:44 PM

Obviously throw it in from time to time. Plus they wont get half as many voters on the lines each week if its just a vote to save.

noirin4eva · 08-08-2009, 01:50 PM

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I totally disagree with always having it as a vote to save. People are notoriously fickle when it comes to their favourites and when its voting time you wont see many huge patterns changes and the show will be far too dull and predictable.

By having it has a vote to evict, the votes automatically shift far more dramatically, thus improving it as a spectacle and keeping contestants and audience continually on their toes. It literally changes from week to week..... makes the show far more alive.

Your're talking as if every housemate is up every week, its usually just two so it makes alot of sense to change it to save so on the rare occasions when a truely entertaining housemate could leave we can save them.

setanta · 08-08-2009, 01:54 PM

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I totally disagree with always having it as a vote to save. People are notoriously fickle when it comes to their favourites and when its voting time you wont see many huge patterns changes and the show will be far too dull and predictable.

By having it has a vote to evict, the votes automatically shift far more dramatically, thus improving it as a spectacle and keeping contestants and audience continually on their toes. It literally changes from week to week..... makes the show far more alive.

Your're talking as if every housemate is up every week, its usually just two so it makes alot of sense to change it to save so on the rare occasions when a truely entertaining housemate could leave we can save them.

I just don't see people voting as much if it were simply a vote to save each week and don't forget Big Brother needs to generate as much money as they can. You'll find that alot of people just wont bother voting if it doesn't involve their own favs and that's exactly what Big Brother doesn't need.

And I do stand by the theory that it'll just get stale and boring with a vote to save every week. Far less drama.

bananarama · 08-08-2009, 01:55 PM

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Originally posted by beso
thanks bananaramma..nice pic..good laugh her.

Anhother thing that bugs me has to do with nominations and the reasons for them.

Just about every week there have been many housemates using reasons that they themselves have been guilty of as well.

things like dogface saying marcus swears a lot when she has one of the worst mouths in the place...

If I was bb i would just tell nthem straight in the diary room.

Eh hud oan a minute darlin...yer jist the same yersel eh !..try again will ye.

Yeah. There is a lot of double standards when nominating.....However the poor things sometimes do have to select someone perhaps they don'y really dislike all that much and have to clutch at straws to satisfy BB......

Vicky. · 08-08-2009, 01:57 PM

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I totally disagree with always having it as a vote to save. People are notoriously fickle when it comes to their favourites and when its voting time you wont see many huge patterns changes and the show will be far too dull and predictable.

By having it has a vote to evict, the votes automatically shift far more dramatically, thus improving it as a spectacle and keeping contestants and audience continually on their toes. It literally changes from week to week..... makes the show far more alive.

Your're talking as if every housemate is up every week, its usually just two so it makes alot of sense to change it to save so on the rare occasions when a truely entertaining housemate could leave we can save them.

I just don't see people voting as much if it were simply a vote to save each week and don't forget Big Brother needs to generate as much money as they can. You'll find that alot of people just wont bother voting if it doesn't involve their own favs and that's exactly what Big Brother doesn't need.

And I do stand by the theory that it'll just get stale and boring with a vote to save every week. Far less drama.

Would make them more money IMO. 3 people are up, 2 are your faves, you would vote to save both. If it was vote to evict, they would only get one vote to evict the other person.

mike888 · 08-08-2009, 01:57 PM

A vote to save would have an enormous inpact on the whole outcome of a series. Rachel wouldn't have even made it to halfway if it had been positive rather than negative voting last year. The question should be though do you break a Big Brother tradition and have a vote to save throughout the series or leave it as it has been since BB1? What must not happen is BB changing the rules halfway through to suit themselves in order to keep more interesting housemates in and kick the boring non entities out. If it does change to positive voting how far do you take it? Why not make nominations positive too so that housemates choose who they want to stay rather than evict? The 3 people with the most nominations would be immune from eviction and the rest of the house would face the public vote everyweek. That would be taking it to the extreme but it would make eviction nights a damn sight less predictable than what they are at the moment, last night proved that! It breaks completely with tradition but would it work and would the BB fans be for or against it?

bananarama · 08-08-2009, 01:59 PM

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I totally disagree with always having it as a vote to save. People are notoriously fickle when it comes to their favourites and when its voting time you wont see many huge patterns changes and the show will be far too dull and predictable.

By having it has a vote to evict, the votes automatically shift far more dramatically, thus improving it as a spectacle and keeping contestants and audience continually on their toes. It literally changes from week to week..... makes the show far more alive.

Your're talking as if every housemate is up every week, its usually just two so it makes alot of sense to change it to save so on the rare occasions when a truely entertaining housemate could leave we can save them.

I just don't see people voting as much if it were simply a vote to save each week and don't forget Big Brother needs to generate as much money as they can. You'll find that alot of people just wont bother voting if it doesn't involve their own favs and that's exactly what Big Brother doesn't need.

And I do stand by the theory that it'll just get stale and boring with a vote to save every week. Far less drama.

I can't agree with the logic that it would be more boring with a vote to save......On the contrary it would be more difficult for public and bookies to predict.....Creating a better cliffhanger and consequently far more interest.....

setanta · 08-08-2009, 02:01 PM

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I totally disagree with always having it as a vote to save. People are notoriously fickle when it comes to their favourites and when its voting time you wont see many huge patterns changes and the show will be far too dull and predictable.

By having it has a vote to evict, the votes automatically shift far more dramatically, thus improving it as a spectacle and keeping contestants and audience continually on their toes. It literally changes from week to week..... makes the show far more alive.

Your're talking as if every housemate is up every week, its usually just two so it makes alot of sense to change it to save so on the rare occasions when a truely entertaining housemate could leave we can save them.

I just don't see people voting as much if it were simply a vote to save each week and don't forget Big Brother needs to generate as much money as they can. You'll find that alot of people just wont bother voting if it doesn't involve their own favs and that's exactly what Big Brother doesn't need.

And I do stand by the theory that it'll just get stale and boring with a vote to save every week. Far less drama.

Would make them more money IMO. 3 people are up, 2 are your faves, you would vote to save both. If it was vote to evict, they would only get one vote to evict the other person.

Think about it for a second though.... you have your 1 or 2 favourites and really don't give a toss about the rest. This applies to most people. Are you really going to bother voting to save on friday night if your fav isn't involved? I think there's many people out there who'd just give it a miss that week.

You're cutting voting figures down dramatically, I feel, if you just have it as a vote to save instead of evict all the time.

noirin4eva · 08-08-2009, 02:02 PM

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Originally posted by setanta
I totally disagree with always having it as a vote to save. People are notoriously fickle when it comes to their favourites and when its voting time you wont see many huge patterns changes and the show will be far too dull and predictable.

By having it has a vote to evict, the votes automatically shift far more dramatically, thus improving it as a spectacle and keeping contestants and audience continually on their toes. It literally changes from week to week..... makes the show far more alive.

Your're talking as if every housemate is up every week, its usually just two so it makes alot of sense to change it to save so on the rare occasions when a truely entertaining housemate could leave we can save them.

I just don't see people voting as much if it were simply a vote to save each week and don't forget Big Brother needs to generate as much money as they can. You'll find that alot of people just wont bother voting if it doesn't involve their own favs and that's exactly what Big Brother doesn't need.

And I do stand by the theory that it'll just get stale and boring with a vote to save every week. Far less drama.

Sorry but i dont know what you mean? surely losing the best housemates will make the programme get stale quicker then big brother tinkering with the voting system?

Vicky. · 08-08-2009, 02:02 PM

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Originally posted by setanta

Think about it for a second though.... you have your 1 or 2 favourites and really don't give a toss about the rest. This applies to most people. Are you really going to bother voting to save on friday night if your fav isn't involved? I think there's many people out there who'd just give it a miss that week.

You're cutting voting figures down dramatically, I feel, if you just have it as a vote to save instead of evict all the time.

Hmm well I personally would vote for the most entertainging out of the three to stay if none of my favourites were up. Dont know about other people though...i may just be weird

Z · 08-08-2009, 02:04 PM

A vote to save is the way to go! In the recent history of BB, there have been so many occasions where you think "if only it had been a vote to save", because of the number of love/hate housemates that seem to emerge. You'd need at least 3 people up to make it a bit unpredictable, but that shouldn't be too hard to fix. Big Brother should definitely adopt the vote to save; I think it would give the format a huge shake up and would make them a lot of money and earn more viewers!

setanta · 08-08-2009, 02:04 PM

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Think about it for a second though.... you have your 1 or 2 favourites and really don't give a toss about the rest. This applies to most people. Are you really going to bother voting to save on friday night if your fav isn't involved? I think there's many people out there who'd just give it a miss that week.

You're cutting voting figures down dramatically, I feel, if you just have it as a vote to save instead of evict all the time.

Hmm well I personally would vote for the most entertainging out of the three to stay if none of my favourites were up. Dont know about other people though...i may just be weird

You're a big brother fanatic like us all. I just don't see the average punter racing to their phones every week if it doesn't involve their favourite. That'll have a huge effect on revenue for the show. Don't think they'll ever abandon the vote to evict.

Cristina · 08-08-2009, 02:04 PM

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Originally posted by Tom
Works so much better. I wanted Hira to stay but she'll be no real loss to the house. If it was a vote to evict we would've lost Bea who is far more entertaining and central within the house

Wrong, its was between Lisa and Hira, Lisa would have gone if it was to evict.

setanta · 08-08-2009, 02:07 PM

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Originally posted by setanta
I totally disagree with always having it as a vote to save. People are notoriously fickle when it comes to their favourites and when its voting time you wont see many huge patterns changes and the show will be far too dull and predictable.

By having it has a vote to evict, the votes automatically shift far more dramatically, thus improving it as a spectacle and keeping contestants and audience continually on their toes. It literally changes from week to week..... makes the show far more alive.

Your're talking as if every housemate is up every week, its usually just two so it makes alot of sense to change it to save so on the rare occasions when a truely entertaining housemate could leave we can save them.

I just don't see people voting as much if it were simply a vote to save each week and don't forget Big Brother needs to generate as much money as they can. You'll find that alot of people just wont bother voting if it doesn't involve their own favs and that's exactly what Big Brother doesn't need.

And I do stand by the theory that it'll just get stale and boring with a vote to save every week. Far less drama.

I can't agree with the logic that it would be more boring with a vote to save......On the contrary it would be more difficult for public and bookies to predict.....Creating a better cliffhanger and consequently far more interest.....

I think it would be easier for bookies to predict it each week if it was a vote to safe. Like I said, the majority of us are fickle when it concerns are favs, and remember we'll just be voting to save our favs for the most part. The bookies will review the trends and have a better idea of who'll stay or go.

bananarama · 08-08-2009, 02:08 PM

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Originally posted by VickyJ

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Originally posted by setanta

Think about it for a second though.... you have your 1 or 2 favourites and really don't give a toss about the rest. This applies to most people. Are you really going to bother voting to save on friday night if your fav isn't involved? I think there's many people out there who'd just give it a miss that week.

You're cutting voting figures down dramatically, I feel, if you just have it as a vote to save instead of evict all the time.

Hmm well I personally would vote for the most entertainging out of the three to stay if none of my favourites were up. Dont know about other people though...i may just be weird

No that's not weird. Even if favourite housemates have gone and one is still watching it then it is obvious that one would vote to save remaining housemates giving off entertainment........I think BB should be petitioned to adopt a vote to "save"......

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