[pixee]

I've never watched UFC.

1) Where is this guy in terms of UFC is he a "top fighter"?

2) His record didn't seem too good, is that a normal record for a UFC fighter?

3) Is he a good fighter full stop lol?

4) Can he really fight again in such a serious sport with all this press stuff?

Thanks

[30stone]

From what ive seen.

Hes not a good fighter..

but he knows what hes doing and trains hard, against just a normal person around his size, he would kick their ass..

[pixee]

Originally Posted by 30stone

From what ive seen.

Hes not a good fighter..

but he knows what hes doing and trains hard, against just a normal person around his size, he would kick their ass..

Yeah well like I said his record looked pretty average, a shame like if he is hard working and trains hard that he is putting that dedication to waste.

btw who is soring the goal in your sig?

[30stone]

Originally Posted by pixee

Yeah well like I said his record looked pretty average, a shame like if he is hard working and trains hard that he is putting that dedication to waste.

btw who is soring the goal in your sig?

Well yeah but they all train hard and put in a lot of dedication only best of the best make it..He will get bigger things off the back of this, fitness dvd's etc would make him more money,

And its Zinedine Zidane when he was younger..

[Mark]

He's never been a part of UFC. He fights in smaller organisations, recently "Cage Rage", which is the UK's own version of UFC, I guess you could call it. There's no real big named fighters in it, but if fighters do well in Cage Rage, they often work their way up to UFC.

I've seen about 8 of his fights, and he's not that impressive on the grand scale of things. He's a fairly bland fighter, he prefers to keep the fight standing (which is where he usually gets knocked out .) Earlier on in his career in fights I haven't seen he has a few wins via submission, so his Brazillian Ju Jitsu must exist, but against bad opponets it's hard to tell if it's a high level.

His record (8-8-1) is pretty bad, especially considering he's lost his last 6 fights in a row. He's fought nobody who is a stand out in the sport. His best opponent is a guy that 'graduated' into UFC, but then got released because he wasn't doing well. I'm fairly confident he wouldn't beat any UFC fighter at the moment at middleweight class.

He definitely doesn't earn much from fighting from the promotions due to his bad record and not being very good. He probably earns a lot from sponsorships, and companies plastering his shorts with logos when he fights. Cage Rage would probably have got rid of him if he wasn't in the public eye like he is.

He can, and more than likely will fight again once leaving the house. With all the press attention and the Jordan stuff, it means he probably can't focus much. I imagine Cage Rage will just give him someone not very good to beat up for his next fight, as they need the ratings right now. If he wants to be a top class fighter, these fighters are putting in training camps 4-5 months before a fight, training hardcore every day and making sure diet and cardio is as perfect as it can be. Fighters are more like professional athletes nowadays at the higher levels. With his lifestlye, he probably couldn't do this and I guess he takes his fights with quite short notice. He probably fights because he loves the sport and the competition, not because he thinks he's any good

[arista]

Originally Posted by 30stone

From what ive seen.

Hes not a good fighter..

but he knows what hes doing and trains hard, against just a normal person around his size, he would kick their ass..

What
you going by the state of his nose?

[pixee]

Well you have answered my question anyway thanks lol. Sorry I assumed he was UFC.

Just doesn't seem the type of sport that would welcome someone back after his media antics.

[Iceman]

He's never been a mainstream fighter, he may get a few bigger publicised fights now though.....

[pixee]

Originally Posted by Schumacher

He's never been a mainstream fighter, he may get a few bigger publicised fights now though.....

Well from what he was saying they won't touch him now cause of his crossdressing ****** buddy antics, lost his sponsorship apparently.

[Iceman]

Originally Posted by pixee

Well from what he was saying they won't touch him now cause of his crossdressing ****** buddy antics, lost his sponsorship apparently.

He said he doesn't want to fight but he's locked into contract.......

usually they would have to take part in 2-3 fights a year.....depending on what organisation he's in... Your right though, nobody will want to fight him now....

[InOne]

When Jordan gets bored of him, he will be pretty fucked really.

[Big_Kahuna]

He's not even in UFC , it's a lower organisation that he is in.

[Big_Kahuna]

I heard he tried out for the Ultimate Fighter (reality UFC show) but got beat in the qualifier.

[Mark]

Originally Posted by Big_Kahuna

I heard he tried out for the Ultimate Fighter (reality UFC show) but got beat in the qualifier.

Oh yeah I forgot about that fight actually. I have it on my PC somewhere, I might try and find it . From what I remember, Alex got his opponent (Dean Ammasinger) in a Triangle Choke (http://maxcondition.com/images/005_5_00.jpg), a move which probably 90%+ of the time is enough to force an opponent into submission, but somehow Alex didn't lock his legs tight enough so Dean escaped. If Alex had just locked in that submission, he would have made the Ultimate Fighter show, and be a recognised name across US mainstream tv and more so in the UK too. It would have been a huge turning point for his career.

[ElProximo]

Pretty much the moment you here he is a UFC (or MMA or whatever they call this stuff) then you know he is not a real fighter.
It's guys who fight like children in a schoolyard ugh.

[Big_Kahuna]

Originally Posted by ElProximo

Pretty much the moment you here he is a UFC (or MMA or whatever they call this stuff) then you know he is not a real fighter.
It's guys who fight like children in a schoolyard ugh.

Rubbish! It's very skillful sport, I suppose to the outsider it looks brutal, but there is a lot involved.

[ElProximo]

Originally Posted by Big_Kahuna

Rubbish! It's very skillful sport, I suppose to the outsider it looks brutal, but there is a lot involved.

No.
To insiders who know about fighting sports it looks amateurish and depends little on skills and more on fluke and size and mostly on 'happenstance'.
To insiders and experts it looks this way.

To young men who love action movies and are experts in video game fighting it looks 'skillful' and worth watching.

[Big_Kahuna]

Originally Posted by ElProximo

No.
To insiders who know about fighting sports it looks amateurish and depends little on skills and more on fluke and size and mostly on 'happenstance'.
To insiders and experts it looks this way.

To young men who love action movies and are experts in video game fighting it looks 'skillful' and worth watching.

Rubbish, so Brazilian ju jitsu, Kickboxing, Boxing, Muay Tahi is amateur??? Our survey says.....................

[ElProximo]

Originally Posted by Big_Kahuna

Rubbish, so Brazilian ju jitsu, Kickboxing, Boxing, Muay Tahi is amateur??? Our survey says.....................

Those are real sports. (most).

Putting them all together into a 'free for all' ends up with 'happenstance' results that are far less to do with skill and far more to do with who just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time,
and,
lately all I see is 'whoever can box more like an actual boxer' wins.

But hey.. if you want to watch grown men fight like schoolyard children then enjoy.

[HellShark]

Originally Posted by ElProximo

No.
To insiders who know about fighting sports it looks amateurish and depends little on skills and more on fluke and size and mostly on 'happenstance'.
To insiders and experts it looks this way.

To young men who love action movies and are experts in video game fighting it looks 'skillful' and worth watching.

What insiders and experts think this? Are you either?

[ElProximo]

Originally Posted by HellShark

What insiders and experts think this? Are you either?

Yes, I am a senior boxing analyst in media, forming sparring partner to a national champion,
and,
Luche Libre champion 'El Proximo Loco'.

MMA does NOT look good from that perspective.
But,
Its great violence and easy to watch I suppose. Its like cartoons in that sense.

[Iceman]

Bit of news on Brock Lesnar in the Sport section.....