[arista]

Update 29/2/12 Title Changed due to New Battle


Argentina threatens to ban firms
operating in the Falklands as Royal Navy sends attack submarine


And look at the Dirty Yank
getting it on with the Argie Leader.




And as for you buggers - You only want it now we found the Oil.
It is British and the People remain British on Our Islands.


Of Course in The Falklands War
it was not helped by the Bastard French selling the Argies loads
of Hit Tech missiles cheap.



Ocean Guardian: The rig was towed from Scotland
to the South Atlantic to drill for oil near the Falkland Islands

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz0iSPwr9kr


Argentina is Bankrupt so they may go to War
And Not Win yet again.
Fact.

[Shaun]

lmao, they're so pathetic. I don't know why we put up with their **** to be honest - the people LIVING on the islands have said explicitly they want to remain British - it's British territory.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Shaun

lmao, they're so pathetic. I don't know why we put up with their **** to be honest - the people LIVING on the islands have said explicitly they want to remain British - it's British territory.

There is nothing else to say.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Livia

There is nothing else to say.

oh ic, so if everyone agree's to be racist, that makes it okay?

So you'd have no Issues with California rounding up all the Mexicans and sending them back, and building a Great Wall Of the RIO GRAND then? You'd have NOTHING to say about that right?

really? you think that'd be okay??


Do you People hear yourselves???

[Livia]

Originally Posted by lostalex

oh ic, so if everyone agree's to be racist, that makes it okay?

So you'd have no Issues with California rounding up all the Mexicans and sending them back, and building a Great Wall Of the RIO GRAND then? You'd have NOTHING to say about that right?

really? you think that'd be okay??


Do you People hear yourselves???

How about you give Texas to the Mexicans? They had a claim on it once... It'd be racist to deny them, surely. That's what we're talking about here. It has nothing to do with people living anywhere, it's about sovereignty.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Livia

How about you give Texas to the Mexicans? They had a claim on it once... It'd be racist to deny them, surely. That's what we're talking about here. It has nothing to do with people living anywhere, it's about sovereignty.

the Texans and Mexicans fought it out fair and square, Texas was an independant country before it CHOSE to join the union. America didn't buy Texas, or fight for it. Texas was it's own entity before it applied to be a state.

[SoBig]

Originally Posted by Livia

How about you give Texas to the Mexicans? They had a claim on it once... It'd be racist to deny them, surely. That's what we're talking about here. It has nothing to do with people living anywhere, it's about sovereignty.

Both Texas and California were once part of Mexico, but the white Americans took it.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Livia

How about you give Texas to the Mexicans? They had a claim on it once... It'd be racist to deny them, surely. That's what we're talking about here. It has nothing to do with people living anywhere, it's about sovereignty.

Spiffing

Originally Posted by lostalex

oh ic, so if everyone agree's to be racist, that makes it okay?

So you'd have no Issues with California rounding up all the Mexicans and sending them back, and building a Great Wall Of the RIO GRAND then? You'd have NOTHING to say about that right?

really? you think that'd be okay??


Do you People hear yourselves???

Lets be honest, lots of your border already has a wall and fence, and your racist republican party would happily deport all Mexicans.

[SoBig]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

Lets be honest, lots of your border already has a wall and fence, and your racist republican party would happily deport all Mexicans.

How is it racist? When a high number of Mexicans are white themselves?

[arista]

Yes they want Our Oil.

[ILoveTRW]

Falkland War II

*rubs hands in excitement*

[arista]

Originally Posted by ILoveDC

Falkland War II

*rubs hands in excitement*

If they are Stupid enough to start that
it will be fast and they will be Smashed into a hole.

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by arista

If they are Stupid enough to start that
it will be fast and they will be Smashed into a hole.

I dont think so Sunny Jim there isnt the manpower left in the uk to send either an army the size of the one we sent in 1982 nor is there the Navy to transport and protect them en route.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Shasown

I dont think so Sunny Jim there isnt the manpower left in the uk to send either an army the size of the one we sent in 1982 nor is there the Navy to transport and protect them en route.

If that was True they would have taken it over by now
hon.



You Know Nothing.


Nuke Sub is there.


Take us on and you Die.

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by arista

If that was True they would have taken it over by now
hon.



You Know Nothing.


Nuke Sub is there.


Take us on and you Die.

Argentina at the time of the Falklands conflict was ruled by a military junta, lead by Galtieri. the decision to invade and retake the Falkland Islands was a political decision designed to bolster national pride and take peoples mind off the economic crisis and civil unrest at home. The junta decided that Britain was unlikely to recover the islands by military intervention but assumed we would try a political negotiated settlement through the UN. Even if we decided to try to retake the islands they anticipated being able to defend them. Bit of an underestimation.

Following the occupation of a whaling station in South Georgia by Argentinian scrap metal dealers, diplomatic objections etc only served to bring the occupation of the islands by Argentinian forces forward. the british government at the time didnt listen to the warnings of both diplomats or military experts.

The US tried to mediate a solution while the british task Force was being prepared and then underway however the argentinians refuced to negotiate.

Following a conflict in which over 600 Argentinians and over 250 Brits lost their lives the Argentinian forces surrendered. This had the knock on effect of the fall of the Argentine Junta and a return to democracy, and The British Government under Margaret Thatcher being re-elected, when they probably wouldnt have been without the victory.

Whilst Argentina still lay claim to the Falklands, they are very unlikely to resort to military measures to regain them preferring instead to use diplomacy

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8529605.stm

Incidentally there is a British Garrison(for want of a better word) - FIG, still down in the Falklands, which was set up to bolster the defence of the Islands and to hold off any invasion for about three or four days, the time in which UKRRF (United Kingdom Rapid Reinforcement Forces)- now called JRRF - Joint Rapid Reaction Force would take to deploy from the UK by air.

Unfortunately due to manpower cuts and other operational commitments this has in turn been reduced: removal of permament submarine patrol in the area, reduction of LLAD(Low Level Air Defence Systems) reduced manpower available for FIC duties (Falkland Infantry Company), Reduction in Air Assets - removal of the Standby Aircraft for CAP (combat air patrol) and Air Interdiction Operations

As for the Nuclear submarine in the area, it will be a nuclear powered submarine and that doesnt mean it will be carrying nuclear weapons, it isnt permanently on station down there, it used to be relieved in place now its one in one out of port. All UK submarines are issued with conventional torpedoes for anti shipping operations and they wouldnt go Nuke except as a last resort, in the defence of the UK mainland or as a retaliatory measure after the release of Chemical Radioactive Bilogical weapons against a UK (or allied) asset.

Incidentally I do know what i am talking about, unlike yourself I do not rely on press reports from newspapers with a particular point to prove etc to cloud the situation.

[arista]

Again
if that is the case they would walk into Our Islands.

This is not about all about press reports.

"Argentina rallies regional support"
yes we all know about that.

Why do they not Invade?

"that doesnt mean it will be carrying nuclear weapons"
You Do not know that.

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by arista

Again
if that is the case they would walk into Our Islands.

This is not about all about press reports.

"Argentina rallies regional support"
yes we all know about that.

Why do they not Invade?

Because of these:

http://www.falklands.info/history/unresolutions.html

And because they are gathering support in Latin America and other areas so that they can take the dispute back to to the UN General Council. If they get enough support they hope we will accept a UN decision to give it all to them. Without bloodshed, without loss of life, without any major cost to them.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8533860.stm

If you read the article carefully you will see we are losing support and they are gaining it.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle7038582.ece

In effect we are drilling down there exploration wells and then capping and sealing them, Its not currently as economically viable for us to run the gas and oil out as a full industry. The Argies play the waiting game and in thier eyes the UN gives them the islands back, they get the islands the oil and gas and the ready to be tapped wells. easy innit, a little bit of rational thought instead of emotive postings eh?

[arista]

Yes Of Course
we are alone there.
What you are saying is nothing New
hon.


They need to invade now
just before the UK Election.

[Shasown]

Incidentally the British Government knew there was Oil and Gas fields down there in the 1970's, following the conflict in 1982 it gave us the opportunity to build up Mare harbour (in the south of East Falkland with lots and lots of oil and gas storage some of which has never been used) Funny old thing that.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Shasown

Incidentally the British Government knew there was Oil and Gas fields down there in the 1970's, following the conflict in 1982 it gave us the opportunity to build up Mare harbour (in the south of East Falkland with lots and lots of oil and gas storage some of which has never been used) Funny old thing that.

For Sure.

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by arista

For Sure.

Here take a read through this, it may provide shocking reading

http://www.uknda.org/tri-service_matters/c-17.html

Its an excellent bedtime read, right up there with Clancy and Grisham

Whilst its not an official document all the facts and figures are or rather were accurate at the time of writing. The bulk of the document was produced between 2003(after the Revisions to the Strategic Defence Review) and 2007 with the odd amendment where required in 2008.

Given that in 1982 the amount of money in real terms spent on defence was over double what it is now. And we didnt really have as many overseas operational commitments. Now we have Iraq and Afghanistan, less than half of the manpower following SDR etc that we had in 82.

What isnt realised is that we came very very close to losing, units were on the last stocks of ammunition, the men were physically exhausted, and it could have been us handed our arses on a plate. If a similar situation occured today there is no way we would be able to reclaim the Islands back.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I think we should give them this vile little rock. Move everyone back to the UK and stop being all 19th century about it. ridiculous

[karezza]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I think we should give them this vile little rock. Move everyone back to the UK and stop being all 19th century about it. ridiculous

I agree - we must defend the Falklands at all costs. The Yanks are treacherous scum.

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I think we should give them this vile little rock. Move everyone back to the UK and stop being all 19th century about it. ridiculous

Obviously you have never been there, the islands are quite scenic and beautiful, somewhat like Northern Scotland.

So what you are proposing is forcibly removing the islanders back to the UK mainland, then handing the islands back over to Aregentina, after all the money we have sunk into them, not to mention the lives?

Yeah great idea.