[vesavius]

Well, dumb hapless harmless Ben is gone and the true Ben is now on show...

Watch him exploit JJ's alientation to recruit him into Team Nerd as he consolidates his power base and drives a deeper wedge between the two groups with defamation and manipulation.

His precise timing to flip his game into something else is impressive tbh. He may be the best player I have seen in BB ever if this works out.

Once Shabby goes on friday, clueless 'I'm so lovely' Rachael will become Queen Bitch (Govan as her henchman) and the faction will just become a vitriolic but ineffectual bitchfest.

Team Nerd are looking good to destroy the Bitches over the next few weeks.

I am so glad that Josie and Nathan are still calling their own shots. This will get messy

[arsenalforever]

i think the last two you mention are team bitch memebers myself

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by arsenalforever

i think the last two you mention are team bitch memebers myself

Nah, they are floaters.

Just because people like to sit and joke with Josie dosent mean she's with them, and she certainly dosent bitch (as in saying stuff behind peoples backs she wouldnt say to their faces).

[arsenalforever]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Nah, they are floaters.

Just because people like to sit and joke with Josie dosent mean she's with them, and she certainly dosent bitch (as in saying stuff behind peoples backs she wouldnt say to their faces).

i don't mean she bitches but she does hang with them a lot more then team ben or nerd as you like to call them

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by arsenalforever

i don't mean she bitches but she does hang with them a lot more then team ben or nerd as you like to call them

again, no, not from what I have seen.

Josie is her own faction right now.

[chauncey]

Haha shame JJ fans.Your boy's being sucked into Team BitchHutManboyLoserBore.

You can see JJ is uncomfortable with Ben's iron grip on him,haha that will teach him for using Ben as a person to be turned against Rachael.JJ has now got himself a stage 5 clinger

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by chauncey

You can see JJ is uncomfortable with Ben's iron grip on him,haha that will teach him for using Ben as a person to be turned against Rachael

I actually agree that he dosent seem all that happy about it heh.

he knows the Bitches are gonna destory him first chance though.

[LiquidGold]

Originally Posted by chauncey

Haha shame JJ fans.Your boy's being sucked into Team BitchHutManboyLoserBore.

You can see JJ is uncomfortable with Ben's iron grip on him,haha that will teach him for using Ben as a person to be turned against Rachael.JJ has now got himself a stage 5 clinger

i cant tell who's using who anymore cause ben's become bitchy now and yes i know everyone more or less will seem a bit bitchy but the way he compliments rachel and then wen john slags her down then he's there going " yep yep she is" wtf!!!

[lol]

I don't care if Ben bitches or not. As long as "Team Nerd" stay till the end and "Team Bitch" get evicted before everyone else then I'm fine with it.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by lol

I don't care if Ben bitches or not. As long as "Team Nerd" stay till the end and "Team Bitch" get evicted before everyone else then I'm fine with it.

I would prefer Bitch to get their game on and fight back myself, but to do that they need a strong socially aware leader, which they just havent got.

Not that I care who out of the two teams wins, they are both pretty horrible, but it will make better TV.

[MissKittyFantastico]

Josie and Nathan are definitely not Team Bitch, Josie is friends with Govan but she doesn't get drawn into the slagging he does, and Nathan is a total floater as far as I can make out.

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

Originally Posted by Kitty

Josie and Nathan are definitely not Team Bitch, Josie is friends with Govan but she doesn't get drawn into the slagging he does, and Nathan is a total floater as far as I can make out.

Yeah i totally agree with you Kitty on this.

[chauncey]

Yuess! You know what I see happening with Ben and JJ?
Another Craig/Anfernee style relationship.Ben is utterly devoted to JJ now.

But JJ has a lot less patience than Anthony; it will only be a matter of time till he cracks and tells Ben to leave him the hell alone.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Well, dumb hapless harmless Ben is gone and the true Ben is now on show...

Watch him exploit JJ's alientation to recruit him into Team Nerd as he consolidates his power base and drives a deeper wedge between the two groups with defamation and manipulating.

His precise timing to flip his game into something else is impressive tbh. He may be the best player I have seen in BB ever if this works out.

Once Shabby goes on friday, clueless 'I'm so lovely' Rachael will become Queen Bitch (Govan as her henchman) and the faction will just become a vitriolic but ineffectual bitchfest.

Team Nerd are looking good to destroy the Bitches over the next few weeks.

I am so glad that Josie and Nathan are still calling their own shots. This will get messy

Good post.

I have spotted this but i've been far too busy with JJ defenders.

Now BB's given him a talking to he might calm down.

Although Ben is doing a very good job of winding him up and putting targets on Shabby, Ife and Caoimhe's back at the moment on live feed, saying that they were saying negative things about JJ and his behaviour towards Rach.

So another rant could happen any minute.

That Ben's a slippery character for sure.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by MrWong

Good post.

I have spotted this but i've been far too busy with JJ defenders.

Now BB's given him a talking to he might calm down.

Although Ben is doing a very good job of winding him up and putting targets on Shabby, Ife and Caoimhe's back at the moment on live feed, saying that they were saying negative things about JJ and his behaviour towards Rach.

So another rant could happen any minute.

That Ben's a slippery character for sure.

Yeah, at the moment JJ is definitly being recruited as the Nerd's attack dog. His temper, and the fact that he honestly aint too bright, makes him easy to manipulate and direct.

Ben isnt the type to do his own dirty work.

[arsenalforever]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Yeah, at the moment JJ is definitly being recruited as the Nerd's attack dog. His temper, and the fact that he honestly aint too bright, makes him easy to manipulate and direct.

Ben isnt the type to do his own dirty work.

a tean bitcgh fan

i'm starting to think we might have a figh somewhere down the line

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by arsenalforever

a tean bitcgh fan

i'm starting to think we might have a figh somewhere down the line

who me?

lol no, whyever did you say that based on this thread?

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Yeah, at the moment JJ is definitly being recruited as the Nerd's attack dog. His temper, and the fact that he honestly aint too bright, makes him easy to manipulate and direct.

Ben isnt the type to do his own dirty work.

I don't think we've had a hm as devious as this since Derek Laud.

[chauncey]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Yeah, at the moment JJ is definitly being recruited as the Nerd's attack dog. His temper, and the fact that he honestly aint too bright, makes him easy to manipulate and direct.

Ben isnt the type to do his own dirty work.

Haha,that did make me laugh

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by chauncey

Haha,that did make me laugh

I had a creative 2 mins lol

[jegmeister]

As a big Ben fan, I think it's too early to make the kind of judgements the OP is making. I think it could go either way - he could become very manipulative or he could get more relaxed and not worry.

However, look at it from his point of view, he's ahd Govan bitching about him behind his back ( and this was way before Ben's manipulations) and Shabby going beserk when Ben points out a few home truths and telling her troops to "avenge" her if she gets evicted.

He has 2 options. He can either fight back hard - this week get his attack in early - or risk being up and out next week.

If he is playing the game you're saying, I say good luck to him - he's playing it extremely well and is still remaining to be quite popular.

[Zizz6]

Originally Posted by vesavius

His precise timing to flip his game into something else is impressive tbh. He may be the best player I have seen in BB ever if this works out.

Ben really is the most evil player in the house!

All the night he has been putting targets on Shabby's and Govan's backs. And the housemates don't even got the faintest idea, who's manipulating their brains.

Don't get me wrong. I kind of like Ben and dislike Gollum and Scabby.

[SoFarSoGood282]

Originally Posted by Zizz6

Ben really is the most evil player in the house!

All the night he has been putting targets on Shabby's and Govan's backs. And the housemates don't even got the faintest idea, who's manipulating their brains.

Don't get me wrong. I kind of like Ben and dislike Gollum and Scabby.

Is he not just saying what he sees because everything he has said is true

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by SoFarSoGood282

Is he not just saying what he sees because everything he has said is true

Your missing the point of whats being said though a little.

Yes, he is saying what he sees, but its WHY he is saying it, and WHEN, and even to WHOM.

His move was perfectly (cynically?) calculated and I would put money on his him and his team to destroy the bitches any day.

[arsenalforever]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Your missing the point of whats being said though a little.

Yes, he is saying what he sees, but its WHY he is saying it, and WHEN, and even to WHOM.

His move was perfectly (cynically?) calculated and I would put money on his him and his team to destroy the bitches any day.

Vesavius just is saying this cause he's a treat to his boring josie