[newspresenter]

They think just because they 'fought for 'their' country', they're more entitled to an opinion than others, and have a better more informed opinion.

I have first hand experience of a brainwashed soldier relative who fought in Basra.

If what british soldiers do were that great, they wouldn't be earning a measely £400 a week.

[GiRTh]

I have personal knowledge of a relative who fought in the Falklands and can say you're 100% wrong.

[newspresenter]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

I have personal knowledge of a relative who fought in the Falklands and can say you're 100% wrong.

Maybe its certain soldiers then, however, they all believe what they're doing is for the good of the country. And also, many retired soldiers have said its a waste of time.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

I have personal knowledge of a relative who fought in the Falklands and can say you're 100% wrong.

I find myself continually agreeing with your posts GiRTh. The OP's opinion is his own, albeit blinkered and inflamatory, but I wouldn't mind betting he wouldn't be voicing it in the company of a serviceman. It's easy to be brave on the Internet.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Livia

I find myself continually agreeing with your posts GiRTh. The OP's opinion is his own, albeit blinkered and inflamatory, but I wouldn't mind betting he wouldn't be voicing it in the company of a serviceman. It's easy to be brave on the Internet.

Aye. They're all Foreign policy experts on the net.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Aye. They're all Foreign policy experts on the net.

Experts... yes. 'Ex' as in 'has-been' and 'spurt' as in 'a drip under pressure'.

[newspresenter]

Originally Posted by Livia

I find myself continually agreeing with your posts GiRTh. The OP's opinion is his own, albeit blinkered and inflamatory, but I wouldn't mind betting he wouldn't be voicing it in the company of a serviceman. It's easy to be brave on the Internet.

I did, with my relative, he was going to attack me had someone not stepped in. They simply cannot handle someone exposing them.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by newspresenter

I did, with my relative, he was going to attack me had someone not stepped in. They simply cannot handle someone exposing them.

Someone like you, you mean?

If you took the same attitude with your relative that you've taken on this thread, it's lucky someone stepped in to save you, eh?

[newspresenter]

Originally Posted by Livia

If you took the same attitude with your relative that you've taken on this thread, it's lucky someone stepped in to save you, eh?

I wouldn't have minded taking a punch from him, it might've made him see what a foolish thing he believes in. We were at a funeral reception by the way, my niece's. At the end of the night, he shook my hand, i noticed he'd had a word with his dad previous.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by newspresenter

I did, with my relative, he was going to attack me had someone not stepped in. They simply cannot handle someone exposing them.

Exposing what exactly? How can you show your relative so little respect just to score points in a discussion?

[newspresenter]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Exposing what exactly? How can you show your relative so little respect just to score points in a discussion?

Exposing the falseness of the war. How mentally unstable does one have to be to believe that risking your life for £400 a week is ok, madness.

I would much prefer our troops patrol british streets catching illegals and other bad people, then i'd get something for the taxes i contribute.

[fingers]

Steve is just as thick as Pigsh!t

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by fingers

Steve is just as thick as Pigsh!t

He isn't the only one then!

[Alpertinator]

If what british soldiers do were that great, they wouldn't be earning a measely £400 a week.

I'm sorry, but... so you're implying that the salary signifies how great the people are? So actors, Paris Hilton, and porn stars, are better than the armed forces? The salary doesn't mean anything.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Alpertinator

I'm sorry, but... so you're implying that the salary signifies how great the people are? So actors, Paris Hilton, and porn stars, are better than the armed forces? The salary doesn't mean anything.

Exactly!

[Shiloh]

Originally Posted by Alpertinator

I'm sorry, but... so you're implying that the salary signifies how great the people are? So actors, Paris Hilton, and porn stars, are better than the armed forces? The salary doesn't mean anything.

This.

[newspresenter]

Originally Posted by Alpertinator

I'm sorry, but... so you're implying that the salary signifies how great the people are? So actors, Paris Hilton, and porn stars, are better than the armed forces? The salary doesn't mean anything.

No, its not about the human, its about what they do. Risking your life for £400 a week is ridiculous, hence the brainwashing that goes on to get them to do it.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by newspresenter

No, its not about the human, its about what they do. Risking your life for £400 a week is ridiculous, hence the brainwashing that goes on to get them to do it.

You have personal experience of this brain washing, right?

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by newspresenter

No, its not about the human, its about what they do. Risking your life for £400 a week is ridiculous, hence the brainwashing that goes on to get them to do it.

You are sooo wrong! Not everyone is totally mercenary in their outlook - some do their jobs for other reasons other than money, or is that something totally beyond your comprehension? Things like job satisfaction and helping others come to mind!

[newspresenter]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

You are sooo wrong! Not everyone is totally mercenary in their outlook - some do their jobs for other reasons other than money, or is that something totally beyond your comprehension? Things like job satisfaction and helping others come to mind!

The reports and personal expressions coming from soldiers in iraq/afghanistan are that they're risking their lives, yes, some think they're doing good, some have, but generally they're not.

I cannot think of one good thing the people in britain have gained from this.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by newspresenter

The reports and personal expressions coming from soldiers in iraq/afghanistan are that they're risking their lives, yes, some think they're doing good, some have, but generally they're not.

I cannot think of one good thing the people in britain have gained from this.

As the Aunty of a serving soldier I totally agree with you ,iraq,Afghanistan wars have nothing whatsoever to do with terrorists ,its about OIL and 300 UK soldiers have died for it ,No more

[smudgie]

They edited out his mammoth strop. Much more of the same with a few eff words thrown in for free.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by newspresenter

They think just because they 'fought for 'their' country', they're more entitled to an opinion than others, and have a better more informed opinion.

I have first hand experience of a brainwashed soldier relative who fought in Basra.

If what british soldiers do were that great, they wouldn't be earning a measely £400 a week.

You could say the same about nurses, teachers etc - public service generally isn't that well paid - doesn't mean they don't deserve more - of course they do - the government are just tight - and pay all their money to their MPs for their expenses!

[chuff me dizzy]

I am a MASSIVE supporter of each and every member of the armed forces ,but I agreed with Ben ,We need to stop policing the world ,enough soldiers have lost their lives on foreign soil

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

I am a MASSIVE supporter of each and every member of the armed forces ,but I agreed with Ben ,We need to stop policing the world ,enough soldiers have lost their lives on foreign soil

That might be true now but was it rue back then of a leader who had already invaded Poland and Russia?