[tpau21]

[vesavius]

He was wrong for arguing for mutual support and cooperation in tasks that benefit the whole group?

or are we talking about something else?

[stoney]

Originally Posted by vesavius

He was wrong for arguing for mutual support and cooperation in tasks that benefit the whole group?

or are we talking about something else?

his general point was ok, altho I'm still waiting for anyone to point out any team tasks where Ben didnt try,altho a little over the top imo.

But he was totally wrong in the over aggressive repitive drivel he sprouted

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by stoney

his general point was ok, altho I'm still waiting for anyone to point out any team tasks where Ben didnt try,altho a little over the top imo.

But he was totally wrong in the over aggressive repitive drivel he sprouted

I'm no JJ supporter in general



I think JJ's main point, and what really winds him up, though is that Ben openly sits there and says he won't do the tasks if they are too hard or don't appeal to him, no matter what is at stake for the others (food, clothes etc).

Like I say, I am no JJ fan, but I fully get why this p1sses him off about the guy. In a 24/7 pressure cooker environment where they all rely on each other for more then the very basics I would hate to have to rely on Ben to return my effort, especially when he repeatedly says screw you, I'm here for me.

[stoney]

Originally Posted by vesavius

I'm no JJ supporter in general



I think JJ's main point, and what really winds him up, though is that Ben openly sits there and says he won't do the tasks if they are too hard or don't appeal to him, no matter what is at stake for the others (food, clothes etc).

Like I say, I am no JJ fan, but I fully get why this p1sses him off about the guy. In a 24/7 pressure cooker environment where they all rely on each other for more then the very basics I would hate to have to rely on Ben to return my effort, especially when he repeatedly says screw you, I'm here for me.

EDIT, also ves when was the last time Ben has actually said anything like that beofre JJ's attack last night.


Yep JJ SAYS this ves but can you point to ANY team task where Ben has not tried cos I cant.
But JJ has cost them a food budget and not tried by his own admission in the S+R task


Altho i can point out that JJ did not try even slightly in the team TOT task last night( cos he didnt know how to do a posh accent was his excuse). Maybe it was because that tight wig was cutting off the blood supply to his brain as JJ repetitvely claimed last night

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by stoney

Yep JJ SAYS this ves but can you point to ANY team task where Ben has not tried cos I cant.

Think of stick to the wall task which didn't even involve quiffhead any effort.

What is your definition of trying? Starting for a wee bit then wimping out?

[Kore]

Originally Posted by vesavius

I'm no JJ supporter in general



I think JJ's main point, and what really winds him up, though is that Ben openly sits there and says he won't do the tasks if they are too hard or don't appeal to him, no matter what is at stake for the others (food, clothes etc).

Like I say, I am no JJ fan, but I fully get why this p1sses him off about the guy. In a 24/7 pressure cooker environment where they all rely on each other for more then the very basics I would hate to have to rely on Ben to return my effort, especially when he repeatedly says screw you, I'm here for me.

Very good comment even though your not a JJ fan, that is spot on

[chuff me dizzy]

your joking ? it will be the other way round

[Kore]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

your joking ? it will be the other way round

This!

JJ won the debate with Ben last night, wont be surprised if Ben was shown to be the victorious one after the editing by C4

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Kore

This!

JJ won the debate with Ben last night, wont be surprised if Ben was shown to be the victorious one after the editing by C4

You could put your mortgage on it

[Kore]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

You could put your mortgage on it

Then Mojo, Flame and the rest of the bore lovers will be on here like a shot starting a new thread every 5 seconds.

[Claymores]

He was correct - and nice enough not to throw the task there and then to demonstrate to Benny-boy the consequences of not 'taking one for the team'

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Claymores

He was correct - and nice enough not to throw the task there and then to demonstrate to Benny-boy the consequences of not 'taking one for the team'

but john james werent talking in a posh voice neither was dave so the task has been failed due to john james ego.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by jedward fever

but john james werent talking in a posh voice neither was dave so the task has been failed due to john james ego.

Corin was actually the first to speak in her normal voice, only a little while after the task started........

[Visage]

Originally Posted by Josy

Corin was actually the first to speak in her normal voice, only a little while after the task started........

That doesn't count in some peoples opinions though.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Josy

Corin was actually the first to speak in her normal voice, only a little while after the task started........

actually it was dave and john james i heard not corin.

[Kore]

Originally Posted by jedward fever

actually it was dave and john james i heard not corin.

I hard corin clearly im sure..

[Visage]

Originally Posted by jedward fever

actually it was dave and john james i heard not corin.

Just because you didn't hear Corin, doesn't mean it wasn't her

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by jedward fever

but john james werent talking in a posh voice neither was dave so the task has been failed due to john james ego.

JJ's point was that Ben will willingly fail a task at the expense of hot water/food for other HM's, if he doesnt WANT to do it... thats cos Ben is completely selfish.
Their task last night was to be completed then Ben would get his suitcase back..... but cos Ben doesnt do anything for anyone else in the house I think it was good that JJ made a point of failing the task so that Ben would realise what it feels like.... Ben expects people to do things for him but doesnt want to do things for other people.

Ben is a user... he will walk over anyone to get his way.

[stoney]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

JJ's point was that Ben will willingly fail a task at the expense of hot water/food for other HM's, if he doesnt WANT to do it... thats cos Ben is completely selfish.
Their task last night was to be completed then Ben would get his suitcase back..... but cos Ben doesnt do anything for anyone else in the house I think it was good that JJ made a point of failing the task so that Ben would realise what it feels like.... Ben expects people to do things for him but doesnt want to do things for other people.

Ben is a user... he will walk over anyone to get his way.

now thats just total hypocrasy tho aint it.


It would be different if JJ had said so at the start rather than to just not try while lambasting another inmate for what, in JJ's high and mighty opinion, is not trying but all the while saying repeatedly that he, JJ, would NEVER EVER do that himself

But has Ben EVER willingly failed a task that cost the inmates either hot water or food cos I aint seen it

[-Sue-]

Originally Posted by Claymores

He was correct - and nice enough not to throw the task there and then to demonstrate to Benny-boy the consequences of not 'taking one for the team'

[stoney]

can anyone point any team task that ben has not tried in yet, unlike JJ who "doesn't know how to do a posh accent"
also when has he EVER cost them a food budget like JJ did?

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by stoney

can anyone point any team task that ben has not tried in yet, unlike JJ who "doesn't know how to do a posh accent"
also when has he EVER cost them a food budget like JJ did?

thank you for pointing it out.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by stoney

can anyone point any team task that ben has not tried in yet, unlike JJ who "doesn't know how to do a posh accent"
also when has he EVER cost them a food budget like JJ did?

He had to stand there (nothing else) and be taped to a board ,he pulled it ,he had to do exercise with the gi ,he pulled it

[MeMyselfAndI]

jj was in the right