[Beso]

That was a shock, but deserved.

[housemate]

I couldn't believe it either, it just goes to show how much the vile little man has got away with .. got to hand it to him, he has managed to (with much pro-editing) fool most of the people. I hope, for his supporters sake, it continues because he only needs to be shown in a true light once and I think he'd get stoned, let alone booed on his way out of the house.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by housemate

I couldn't believe it either, it just goes to show how much the vile little man has got away with .. got to hand it to him, he has managed to (with much pro-editing) fool most of the people. I hope, for his supporters sake, it continues because he only needs to be shown in a true light once and I think he'd get stoned, let alone booed on his way out of the house.

He hasn't fooled anyone - just lots of people not jumping to wild conclusions about him being an evil conman based on little more than a few vids - that themselves are, without doubt, wide open to personal interpretation!

Some simply have the man hung, drawn and quatered without even a sniff of a trial! Definitely guilty until proven innocent in their minds!

[housemate]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

He hasn't fooled anyone - just lots of people not jumping to wild conclusions about him being an evil conman based on little more than a few vids - that themselves are, without doubt, wide open to personal interpretation!

Some simply have the man hung, drawn and quatered without even a sniff of a trial! Definitely guilty until proven innocent in their minds!

Untrue .. I am commenting on his behaviour in the house, as an individual like any other. I despise him for being a sneak, for being devious, for being a backstabber etc.. etc ... tune in to LF, he quite openly displays the type of behaviour which is universally reviled, you wouldn't need to watch for long!
Innocent? ... This creature is guilty of being the most duplicitous, self-interested, devious Housemate to ever walk onto our screens.
As a matter of interest, I have found that my assessment of his character outside the house runs consistant with the things I have SEEN and HEARD him do IN the house ... he is a conman through and through and has condemned himself through HIS own words and actions during the past weeks.

[stoney]

Originally Posted by housemate

Untrue .. I am commenting on his behaviour in the house, as an individual like any other. I despise him for being a sneak, for being devious, for being a backstabber etc.. etc ... tune in to LF, he quite openly displays the type of behaviour which is universally reviled, you wouldn't need to watch for long!
Innocent? ... This creature is guilty of being the most duplicitous, self-interested, devious Housemate to ever walk onto our screens.
As a matter of interest, I have found that my assessment of his character outside the house runs consistant with the things I have SEEN and HEARD him do IN the house ... he is a conman through and through and had condemned himself through HIS own words and actions during the past weeks.

and who in your opinion has not shown all these traits you accuse dave of having

ozr does Dave have to live by other rules than all the other inmates

[housemate]

Originally Posted by stoney

and who in your opinion has not shown all these traits you accuse dave of having

ozr does Dave have to live by other rules than all the other inmates

With the exception of Mario (only to a degree) .. None!! Most of them have 'not behaved well' at some point or another, some have bitched, some have lied etc... however what makes Dave unique is that he does these things MOST of the time.
He seems to need a 'target' on whom to vent his bile (today, its Sam again) .. he won't leave it alone .. when he's not making snide (untrue) remarks directly to Sam (or whoever, on other days), he trots around to each and every other HM to spread the venom, either in a 'jokey way' or a more serious attack, depending on the HM (tailor makes his abuse according to the HM known feelings about the 'target)
No, Dave hasn't got seperate rules to live by ... none of us do. If we choose to behave in a vile, duplicitous manner, we will be judged accordingly. I think the problem is that Dave thinks he should be judged seperatly because he wears the mantle of 'Goodness' and 'Joviality'.

[The Truth Is Out There!]

Originally Posted by stoney

and who in your opinion has not shown all these traits you accuse dave of having

ozr does Dave have to live by other rules than all the other inmates

Dave proclaims he does!!!!!!!!!! Pity he can not be more 'christian' towards his fellow inmates and the public! $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[Beso]

Originally Posted by housemate

Untrue .. I am commenting on his behaviour in the house, as an individual like any other. I despise him for being a sneak, for being devious, for being a backstabber etc.. etc ... tune in to LF, he quite openly displays the type of behaviour which is universally reviled, you wouldn't need to watch for long!
Innocent? ... This creature is guilty of being the most duplicitous, self-interested, devious Housemate to ever walk onto our screens.
As a matter of interest, I have found that my assessment of his character outside the house runs consistant with the things I have SEEN and HEARD him do IN the house ... he is a conman through and through and has condemned himself through HIS own words and actions during the past weeks.

he's liked bot inside and outside the house, so a big stiff sh!t to you.

[housemate]

Originally Posted by parmnion

he's liked bot inside and outside the house, so a big stiff sh!t to you.

You forgot the ' Nur Nur De Nur Nur' ... but alltold your comment is as well balanced and considered as most other arguments I have seen posted by Dave supporters... I rest my case!

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by housemate

Untrue .. I am commenting on his behaviour in the house, as an individual like any other. I despise him for being a sneak, for being devious, for being a backstabber etc.. etc ... tune in to LF, he quite openly displays the type of behaviour which is universally reviled, you wouldn't need to watch for long!
Innocent? ... This creature is guilty of being the most duplicitous, self-interested, devious Housemate to ever walk onto our screens.
As a matter of interest, I have found that my assessment of his character outside the house runs consistant with the things I have SEEN and HEARD him do IN the house ... he is a conman through and through and has condemned himself through HIS own words and actions during the past weeks.

In the end - we are all guided by our own interpretations of what we see on our tv/computer screen. From what I have seen of Dave - he is an ordinary guy with faults, same as the rest of us!

He has done his bit of bitching, unfortunately that is human nature and we all do it - but some are far worse than others and are very manipulative in the way they bitch. I don't see that in Dave - but I do see it in JJ and Josie!

[housemate]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

In the end - we are all guided by our own interpretations of what we see on our tv/computer screen. From what I have seen of Dave - he is an ordinary guy with faults, same as the rest of us!

He has done his bit of bitching, unfortunately that is human nature and we all do it - but some are far worse than others and are very manipulative in the way they bitch. I don't see that in Dave - but I do see it in JJ and Josie!

Lol, one thing Dave doesn't do is 'leave himself open to misinterpretation' or do 'a bit' of bitching .. the man is a character assassin who IS the most manipulative person in that house.
Judging your previous posts on the level of moral integrity you demand from HMs, I have a feeling that you would be shocked rigid if you did watch Dave on LF .. nothing kindly, jovial or even fair or 'innocent' in what he does for the most part.

[JustKaz]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

In the end - we are all guided by our own interpretations of what we see on our tv/computer screen. From what I have seen of Dave - he is an ordinary guy with faults, same as the rest of us!

He has done his bit of bitching, unfortunately that is human nature and we all do it - but some are far worse than others and are very manipulative in the way they bitch. I don't see that in Dave - but I do see it in JJ and Josie!

Have to agree with that, I was really disapointed in him over Sam/John issue though I felt he pushed Sam over edge by telling him to go tell john (over comment Dave heared him say)

Other aspects of his behaviour is like that typical of a bloke with his mates in a pub having banter and taking mick out of his mates, thats I see is part of his personality, and actually no real harm is meant by what he says. Though I feel he knew very well what was ahead with the Sam/John issue.

when your in the lime light of bb every word, sentance and tone of voiceof any HM is watched by the public picked up and twisted to suit.

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

Originally Posted by housemate

Untrue .. I am commenting on his behaviour in the house, as an individual like any other. I despise him for being a sneak, for being devious, for being a backstabber etc.. etc ... tune in to LF, he quite openly displays the type of behaviour which is universally reviled, you wouldn't need to watch for long!
Innocent? ... This creature is guilty of being the most duplicitous, self-interested, devious Housemate to ever walk onto our screens.
As a matter of interest, I have found that my assessment of his character outside the house runs consistant with the things I have SEEN and HEARD him do IN the house ... he is a conman through and through and has condemned himself through HIS own words and actions during the past weeks.

Well said, i totally agree with you 100%.

[calyman]

Originally Posted by housemate

Untrue .. I am commenting on his behaviour in the house, as an individual like any other. I despise him for being a sneak, for being devious, for being a backstabber etc.. etc ... tune in to LF, he quite openly displays the type of behaviour which is universally reviled, you wouldn't need to watch for long!
Innocent? ... This creature is guilty of being the most duplicitous, self-interested, devious Housemate to ever walk onto our screens.
As a matter of interest, I have found that my assessment of his character outside the house runs consistant with the things I have SEEN and HEARD him do IN the house ... he is a conman through and through and has condemned himself through HIS own words and actions during the past weeks.

Spot on, one of the best assessments posted on here for a long time.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by housemate

Untrue .. I am commenting on his behaviour in the house, as an individual like any other. I despise him for being a sneak, for being devious, for being a backstabber etc.. etc ... tune in to LF, he quite openly displays the type of behaviour which is universally reviled, you wouldn't need to watch for long!
Innocent? ... This creature is guilty of being the most duplicitous, self-interested, devious Housemate to ever walk onto our screens.
As a matter of interest, I have found that my assessment of his character outside the house runs consistant with the things I have SEEN and HEARD him do IN the house ... he is a conman through and through and has condemned himself through HIS own words and actions during the past weeks.

Are you christian?

[The Truth Is Out There!]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Are you christian?

I am sure that most on here are of christian values but Christian - what does it matter?

[housemate]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Are you christian?

Yes but not attached to any particular branch. If your next question is going to involve my flaws as a Christian .. and yes I have many .. my argument would be that I try to do 'the right thing' and often fail. What I don't do is display my failings whilst preaching to others and I have never fallen into a pattern of 'wrong doing' whilst holding a Bible, neither would I discredit my faith by doing all of the above on National TV.

[The Truth Is Out There!]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

He hasn't fooled anyone - just lots of people not jumping to wild conclusions about him being an evil conman based on little more than a few vids - that themselves are, without doubt, wide open to personal interpretation!

Some simply have the man hung, drawn and quatered without even a sniff of a trial! Definitely guilty until proven innocent in their minds!

What's to interpret???
His interpretation of any religious Tracts - misguided to say the least!
Sick - is more like it!

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by The Truth Is Out There!

What's to interpret???
His interpretation of any religious Tracts - misguided to say the least!
Sick - is more like it!

People make their own assumptions based on what they think they see - without knowing the reasons behind someone's actions - things are not always what they seem!

[housemate]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

People make their own assumptions based on what they think they see - without knowing the reasons behind someone's actions - things are not always what they seem!

Hang on! I've watched Dave lie to Hms, I watched him backstab and throw his 'mates' under the bus, these things (and many other stunts he has pulled)are not open to misinterpretation..the fact that he repeats the same 'mistakes' would (more than) suggest that they are deliberate acts.
It amuses me no end that your character assasinations of Josie, which ARE based on assumtions for the most part, continue to be utterly devoid of any of the 'advice' you preach, to other forum members, in the above post!

[Baggymad]

Don't count on it - Corin is faker than her tan and some people can't see it - the public can be easily fooled.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Baggymad

Don't count on it - Corin is faker than her tan and some people can't see it - the public can be easily fooled.

Josie is faker than her bleached blonde locks - and she now has a ticket to the final - if people can't see that - they can't see anything!

[watchinittoomuch]

[TheEchelonxRawr!KP]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Josie is faker than her bleached blonde locks - and she now has a ticket to the final - if people can't see that - they can't see anything!

Josie is real! and Corin is faker than her boobs! and im glad people are begining to see it!

[crocs]

It's seems to be a common misconception that Christians should have no faults. I think those of you who blame Dave of not behaving in a Christian way should take a look at the mirror. There are different kinds of people, and that similar kind of variety can be found in Christians. They are not perfect. If you have set them out to be that way, you've set them on a pedestal, and it's your own fault when they fall so hard.