[Grimnir]

[Grimnir]

[Shaun]

oh lord.

[Shasown]

So 9/11 and the subsequent invasion and occupation of Afghanistan were simply part of an insurance scam so that Silverstein could knock down the towers and rebuild at no real cost to himself?

Yeah that stands up to scrutiny.

[Grimnir]

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by Grimnir

feeble and pathetic debunk attempt

it is only ONE of MANY pieces of damning evidence and only ONE of MANY aspects of the truth.

watch the videos, you seriously telling me that guy is telling the truth?

Damning evidence my arse, a series of circumstances that conspiracy nuts weave into something that my nipper could rip apart.

I dont know Silverstein, therefore I dont know how he acts and reacts in real life, is he naturally nervous, or just in front of people? Some people do get nervous when public speaking or appearing on TV, even businessmen.

[Grimnir]

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by Grimnir

that same old fail tactic of dismissing someone as a conspiracy nut
MILLIONS of people believe it was a cover up and want to know the truth

you watched those videos and all you say is oh maybe he was nervous? what a complete joke argument
HE IS A LIAR 100%

No I didnt say maybe he is nervous. I said some people are naturally nervous. I dont judge a person or what they are saying solely on appearing to be of a nervous disposition.

Although he does stutter at times and is quite verbose in his explanations, other aspects of his body language are not betraying him as a liar.

You are the one saying he is a liar, find some real evidence to back up your assertion.

[arista]

Yes the Saudi Terror Gang
did well at 9/11.

Making GW Bush as Evil as Bin Laden

Carpet Bombing the Iraqi public
had nothing to do with 9/11

[LeatherTrumpet]

Not this old pish again. Move on ffs.

[Tom4784]

If there was anything more to it there would be solid and truthful evidence of it by now in this age of wikileaks and such. Given that it's just conspiracy nuts going on about it though, I can't take it seriously.

[Vicky.]

Ive read/watched a LOT about this. I agree some of the official explanations dont really add up. However, I think its a bit silly to assume that it was all manufactured for whatever reason.

The conclusion I have come to myself (and call me a conspiracy nut if you like)...is that the American government KNEW what was going to happen/elements of it at least, and allowed it to happen. For what reason...I dont know. Maybe it was for money, maybe it was for a reason to go to war, maybe it was something else entirely. I just find it hard to believe that with all the security around the pentagon/WTC that nothing at all could be done to prevent it or anything :/

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Ive read/watched a LOT about this. I agree some of the official explanations dont really add up. However, I think its a bit silly to assume that it was all manufactured for whatever reason.

The conclusion I have come to myself (and call me a conspiracy nut if you like)...is that the American government KNEW what was going to happen/elements of it at least, and allowed it to happen. For what reason...I dont know. Maybe it was for money, maybe it was for a reason to go to war, maybe it was something else entirely. I just find it hard to believe that with all the security around the pentagon/WTC that nothing at all could be done to prevent it or anything :/

Dont be ridiculous and stick to the evidence

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Dont be ridiculous and stick to the evidence

Evidence?

I have yet to see any 'evidence' that the government did not know that the attacks were going to happen. Please show me...

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Evidence?

I have yet to see any 'evidence' that the government did not know that the attacks were going to happen. Please show me...

and do you have any evidence that the masons ordered the attack or the hells angels?

is there any evidence to suggest that katy perry was not aware the attacks were happening?

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

and do you have any evidence that the masons ordered the attack or the hells angels?

is there any evidence to suggest that katy perry was not aware the attacks were happening?

Nope. Yet I refuse to lap up all the bulls*** I get told without questioning anything. Thats all

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

is there any evidence to suggest that katy perry was not aware the attacks were happening?

[arista]

We have had this thread before
Best to lock it Dezzy
the Wise one here

[Tom4784]

It's not breaking any rules yet Arista and all topics always pop up eventually which I find good as old topics can always benefit from fresh perspectives.

If it leads to an argument or grossly off topic then I'll do something but there's nothing wrong with the topic for the moment.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

It's not breaking any rules yet Arista and all topics always pop up eventually which I find good as old topics can always benefit from fresh perspectives.

If it leads to an argument or grossly off topic then I'll do something but there's nothing wrong with the topic for the moment.

OK

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by arista

OK

thats you told off Arista. Dont let this happen again.

[Barbie]

The bit where he says "pull it and we watched the building fall" can be taken in so many ways: the way i heard it was that he said to pull everyone out of the buildings and then it fell and so he ha saying they made the right decision. But consipracy wants to see this as pull it and then the building fell. What i don't understand is, if it was a secret that they pulled the buildings down then why would he say it in the way the consipracy theorists believe he said it? surely thats just shooting yourself in the foot.

Because of this i don't think thats what he meant by that comment at all. Why would he say that if it was a big secret. I don't think so. He meant pull the emergency services out, and then the building fell so they were out just in time.

[Harry!]

If it was all a government scam then why would they want to cause all the pain and suffering to families who are now without loved ones, Not forgetting the thousands who lost their lives stuck in the towers. A cost of a life can not be covered by any amount of money.

[Vicky.]

Harry, do you really believe that governments care more for peoples lives than for money/power?

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Harry, do you really believe that governments care more for peoples lives than for money/power?

There is no such thing as governments as an entity they are made up by people who have families and children and there is no way that a patriotic country like the USA would not only do what you suggest but have the ability to cover it up.