[fruit_cake]

after all the effort put in by the rescuers, Aaron ruins it because he can't stand the idea of being all alone without Faye's guiding hand at his side and ruins the whole task and shopping budget for everyone!

[Jordan.]

Good, Jay can suffer for another week now if he stays now.

[Supernovarolla]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

Good, Jay can suffer for another week now if he stays now.

But it's not *just* Jay who's suffering, is it? The walk out and subsequent failure of yet another task has effected *every* HM in the house. Again.

Yes, Anton only climbed the equivalent of Ben Nevis so he could split Faye and Aaron up which was childish, but does anyone *really* believe that Aaron and Harry wouldn't have convinced the others to join them and walk out of the task, regardless of whether Faye had been there or not?

By walking out of the task, they punished the entire house just to get back at Anton. They could have easily targeted him without targeting every HM in the house too.

This is not the first time they have sabotaged a task (and I doubt it will be the last time either) in order to fail it. It's selfish.

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by Supernovarolla

But it's not *just* Jay who's suffering, is it? The walk out and subsequent failure of yet another task has effected *every* HM in the house. Again.

Yes, Anton only climbed the equivalent of Ben Nevis so he could split Faye and Aaron up which was childish, but does anyone *really* believe that Aaron and Harry wouldn't have convinced the others to join them and walk out of the task, regardless of whether Faye had been there or not?

By walking out of the task, they punished the entire house just to get back at Anton. They could have easily targeted him without targeting every HM in the house too.

This is not the first time they have sabotaged a task (and I doubt it will be the last time either) in order to fail it. It's selfish.

And? It's Big Brother, I don't want to see everyone getting along and having an easy time by getting a luxury budget everyweek. People getting wound up = entertainment.

[Cromwell1900]

Originally Posted by Supernovarolla

But it's not *just* Jay who's suffering, is it? The walk out and subsequent failure of yet another task has effected *every* HM in the house. Again.

Yes, Anton only climbed the equivalent of Ben Nevis so he could split Faye and Aaron up which was childish, but does anyone *really* believe that Aaron and Harry wouldn't have convinced the others to join them and walk out of the task, regardless of whether Faye had been there or not?

By walking out of the task, they punished the entire house just to get back at Anton. They could have easily targeted him without targeting every HM in the house too.

This is not the first time they have sabotaged a task (and I doubt it will be the last time either) in order to fail it. It's selfish.

I think if you walk out of a task as they did last night and don't instantly say, sorry to the guys they were not getting back at, adding "we have to walk out because of A, B, C" it is very bad behaviour given the have assured a crap budget

They wafted past them like they we're stickin it to em. This is likely ok with some who believe Anton had it coming, and absolutely he is a p***k. But they have zero consideration for the others.

How can he not be seen as an arrogant T**t from this point forward.

I am singling out Aaron for most criticism as he orchestrated it i.e suggested it, and made the final decision, but they all went along with it as a typical pack animal does.

I keep finding new words to describe Aaron by and they are rarely positive unfortunately for me as i really liked him up until recently.

This is not a positive development for Aaron.

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by Cromwell1900

I think if you walk out of a task as they did last night and don't instantly say, sorry to the guys they were not getting back at, adding "we have to walk out because of A, B, C" it is very bad behaviour given the have assured a crap budget

This is not a positive development for Aaron.

I think he's getting drunk on his own power, he thinks he can do whatever he wants now he's king of the house! He's not interested in the rest only proving what a man he is to Anton and Jay!

[Cromwell1900]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

I think he's getting drunk on his own power, he thinks he can do whatever he wants now he's king of the house! He's not interested in the rest only proving what a man he is to Anton and Jay!

regarding Power.

I noticed in the Hl's that Harry totally defered the decision to Aaron by sitting down when the door had opened for Faye, then began counting down to let everyone know a decision had to be made as the door would lock after 30 secs. When Aarron walked out they all followed suite. Now that is power! and the image of that proves better than any words i could write who is pulling the strings between them.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

I think he's getting drunk on his own power, he thinks he can do whatever he wants now he's king of the house! He's not interested in the rest only proving what a man he is to Anton and Jay!

Great that you view Aaron as King of the House. I'd say you were spot on and again, he is a man compared to Anton and Jay - he doesn't need to prove it - what he is however doing is providing them with gentle, non aggressive, placid but very effective reminders of him being much more of a man than either of them.

And let's not forget here....Mr Superfit Jay - failed his task.

[Visage]

I'm pretty sure if Jem and Harry were against this Aaron wouldn't have quit the task.

But hey let's blame it all on Aaron, after all it was his idea and both Jem and Harry are too weak to make up their own minds.

[fruit_cake]

Aaron was definitely the instigator in my view. Harry and Jem knew the task was ruined so they were hardly going to stay there.

[joeysteele]

I think you will find,Faye and jemma and Harry all agreed to spoil the task too.I also note you leave out the fact that after only half the time of being in that room, Aden was already talking of suffering from like cabin fever,I dare bet he'd have walked when they all agreed to as well.
Alex had said she wasn't bothered as to a big shopping budget anyway but she along with Aden got freed.

They had been in there for over 11 hours, doing nothing at all, how boring a task was that, the others were doing nothing either,but were outside the room, they got only 4 tasks to free the trapped housemates in over 11 hours,utterly tedious and ridiculous.
I'd have given up on that too and I bet Jay would have gone crazy trapped in that room for that length of time.

Also though, while on about Jay, I note you also omit that if they had all acted like Jay,they would have lost the task anyway as he 'failed' his part of the task and freed no housemate,(only 30 minutes on a ski thing),thereby he also gave up the only part he had to do early too.

Not just one person involved in the loss of that task if being fair,Faye also for sure did not want to be out of the room without Aaron for sure.
Aaron walked out the door first, the others followed, I didn't see one of them even thinking of staying back in the room.

[chuff me dizzy]

I think if you rewatch last nights show ,there were 4/FOUR of them left task room ,not ONE change the record ffs

[fruit_cake]

Jay tried his best imo. I think the Aaron fans are going to struggle with this one, he really can't be defended easily here in my view

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

Jay tried his best imo. I think the Aaron fans are going to struggle with this one, he really can't be defended easily here in my view

Clearly his best is not good enough then. Or he cannot count.

[fruit_cake]

it's another example of Aaron doesn't get what Aaron wants so the whole world has to suffer to make him feel better!

[lime]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

it's another example of Aaron doesn't get what Aaron wants so the whole world has to suffer to make him feel better!

The whole world has to suffer...

[Raven]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

it's another example of Aaron doesn't get what Aaron wants so the whole world has to suffer to make him feel better!

Yep passive-agressive waste of space.

Faye was supposed to leave

Aaron left FIRST, having done so the other two probably felt compelled to follow as if it was going to ruin the task aaron had already ruined it.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Raven

Yep passive-agressive waste of space.

Faye was supposed to leave

Aaron left FIRST, having done so the other two probably felt compelled to follow as if it was going to ruin the task aaron had already ruined it.

Actually - if anyone was showing passive aggressiveness - it was Anton - who refused to work as a team member - refused to accept their choice of chosing Aaron to be freed - he went against his own group decision and opted to chose Faye out of nothing but spite and malice.

Remember, Anton said he didn't care about the food, the budget, he just wanted to wind Aaron up.

[Raven]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Actually - if anyone was showing passive aggressiveness - it was Anton -

Nope that is being two faced - par for the course for anton but not passive agressive.

Yet again if aaron doesn't get what spoiled little sulky toddler aaron wants then everyone suffers... either by fecked up budget or him creating an atmosphere to make others feel uncomfortable.

[Chuck]

Originally Posted by Raven

Yet again if aaron doesn't get what spoiled little sulky toddler aaron wants then everyone suffers... either by fecked up budget or him creating an atmosphere to make others feel uncomfortable.

That's almost becoming a routine.

[Rob4]

All of the effort?, Jay less than 30 mins cardio, which he failed, Tom a snowball fight, which he should have failed as he stepped out of the circle, Louise eating some cow urine ice, Anton was the only one who put effort in and that only seemed to be out of spite.


The problem is again it is hard to judge as we do not get the full story due to the horrible editing by C5. Apparently Aaron should have been rescued as he needed medication for his knee injury, but Anton chose Faye. Later Faye and Jay apparently had a conversation about this, hopefully we will see these edits tonight, but on other forums people are talking about it.

Last night it seems as though C5 wanted it to be a 'Aaron is a nasty man' show.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

after all the effort put in by the rescuers, Aaron ruins it because he can't stand the idea of being all alone without Faye's guiding hand at his side and ruins the whole task and shopping budget for everyone!

You are being really unfair there ,why aren't you blaming Faye too, she did not want to be rescued by Anton, she did not want to be out of there without Aaron,she also did not want to be without Aaron at her side either, she agreed to drop the task as did Jemma and Harry.

People can make suggestions,others can disagree or agree,they all agreed with Aarons after over 11 hours in there.
There was every likelihood that they would fail the task if one or more left the room but it wasn't certain they would,however they all came out.All of them at the same time, not one even thinking about staying in.

Blame them all not just one, Aaron made a suggestion, they all agreed with it.
Would you be saying this, if Faye had made the suggestion and then they all had agreed with her to drop the task I wonder.

They lost the big shopping budget too, it is not all about them making sure Jay gets all the food, drink and ciggies he wants, who as I said before failed in the only part he had to do in the task too.

[fruit_cake]

Aaron's got Faye under the thumb, she's under his spell now I hope Jem can get her to snap out of it before it's too late

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

Aaron's got Faye under the thumb, she's under his spell now I hope Jem can get her to snap out of it before it's too late

Really fruit_cake,that is really unfair, I doubt anyone could get Faye under their thumb,she knows full well her own mind and is no ones fool,I have even come to realise that in her.
Unlike you though,although you claim to really like and understand her, she sees qualities in Aaron she is strongly drawn to.after living with him for weeks now 24/7. You don't simply because you don't like him.

I am happy for them both in that. I don't think even Jemma disapproves of him now also. I really doubt Faye would agree with you on this at all or be pleased with it.

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Really fruit_cake,that is really unfair, I doubt anyone could get Faye under their thumb,she knows full well her own mind and is no ones fool,I have even come to realise that in her.
Unlike you though,although you claim to really like and understand her, she sees qualities in Aaron she is strongly drawn to.after living with him for weeks now 24/7. You don't simply because you don't like him.

I am happy for them both in that. I don't think even Jemma disapproves of him now also. I really doubt Faye would agree with you on this at all or be pleased with it.

what are these 'qualities' that Aaron has then?