[Shaun]

Interesting article written by Amal Fashanu here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-16722196

Apparently a documentary airing on BBC3 on Monday too.

There are currently around 5,000 professional footballers in Britain, but none are openly gay. Amal Fashanu, niece of Justin Fashanu, asks why no gay player has followed in her uncle's boots in nearly 25 years.

My late uncle, Justin Fashanu remains the only professional footballer in Britain ever to come out publicly as gay.

Justin broke into football as a teenage prodigy at Norwich. In 1980 he won the BBC's goal of the season award for an incredible strike against Liverpool. I still feel a surge of family pride every time I watch it.

It's the casual celebration which always gets me. That was Justin. Effortlessly talented, effortlessly stylish, if a touch cocky.

But what I learned about Justin is that, sadly, "that goal" marked the high point of his career.

He was catapulted to fame, when Nottingham Forest paid a million pound-transfer fee to Norwich. But it was largely downhill from there.

Forest's manager, the famous Brian Clough - or in my family the infamous - took a disliking to Justin.

In his autobiography, Clough recounts the confrontation he had with Justin over rumours about frequenting gay clubs in Nottingham:

"'Where do you go if you want a loaf of bread?' I asked him. 'A baker's, I suppose.' 'Where do you go if you want a leg of lamb?' 'A butcher's.' 'So why do you keep going to that bloody *****' club?'"

Those were the typical attitudes Justin faced in his profession, and very little had changed by the time he took the momentous decision to come out publicly a decade later in 1990.

These prejudices he had to endure saddened, rather than shocked, me. But what I did find surprising was the slow pace of change within football since my uncle's courageous step into the limelight.

I learned Justin was no angel, but he genuinely believed he was setting an example to other players facing discrimination. Sadly, it's an example no other gay player has felt able to follow in nearly 25 years.

Why? Several reasons, I discovered. Matt Lucas, comedian, avid Arsenal supporter and one of Britain's best known gay football fans, shocked me with his description of the homophobia still prevalent on the terraces.

But I learned it's not simply a case of the terraces frightening a gay player from coming forward. Max Clifford, the celebrity PR guru, pinpointed the role of agents and their perception that an openly gay player would be a weak commodity in the transfer market.

'Footballers are afraid to come out,' says Max Clifford

"If by their star coming out, it's going to affect their earnings, then they won't want them to do it," says Clifford.

Clifford also told me he had been approached by gay and bisexual Premiership players, terrified that their sexuality would come out and petrified that this would mean the end of their careers.

Joey Barton, Queen's Park Rangers outspoken captain, feels close to the issue as his father's youngest brother initially hid his homosexuality. Barton highlighted "archaic figures" in management positions as an obstacle to gay players.

Former basketball star turned gay rights campaigner John Amaechi went even further.

"Football is clearly not that comfortable with women in board rooms. They're clearly not that comfortable with black people in management positions. And so, when it comes to gay people, that just blows their mind," said Amaechi.

But there were some definite chinks of light. I encountered determined campaigners for change, like the Gay Football Supporters' Network, which has been trying to fight homophobia in the game for many years.

Other organisations, like Kick It Out and Show Racism the Red Card and the Professional Footballers' Association, have also added homophobia to their anti-discrimination agenda in recent times.

The Football Association, the game's main governing body and so often the target for criticism over its shortcomings and failings, are about to launch a four-year plan aimed at encouraging more gay players to participate at grassroots level.

Barton was adamant that within the next 10 years there will be an openly gay footballer in the professional game.

However, I was left with the overwhelming feeling that progress has moved at a snail's pace since Justin's era. As someone from a different generation, who works in fashion with gay colleagues on a regular basis, I found this particularly hard to comprehend.

QPR's captain Joey Barton has said within the next 10 years there will be an openly gay footballer.

As well as being a great eye opener here, my research allowed me to close a very difficult chapter in my family life, which has always bothered me. By the time Justin came out publicly, his relationship with my dad, John Fashanu had broken down.

My dad was upset that Justin had not at least consulted him before taking this step. When Justin later took his own life in 1998, following unfounded allegations of sexual assault in the US, it was shattering for my dad and family.

I think as a 10-year-old my family, rightly, tried to protect me. But I was deeply upset by watching a documentary about Justin's life made shortly after he killed himself and discovering how my dad reacted in the media to Justin coming out.

He said his brother would have to "suffer the consequences" and that he "wouldn't like to play or even get changed in the vicinity of him". I also heard for the first time the message that Justin left in which he said he felt abandoned and alone.

Reliving that terrible time just made me wish I had been old enough back then to be there for Justin. I'm not saying I could have changed everything but I think he only needed that one family member or someone close to help. He shouldn't have ever felt alone and I think that's what most distressed me.

I spoke to my dad about his reaction at the time and asked him whether he would now have changed any of his actions.

"I'm not homophobic and I never had been, but at the time I was certainly cross with my brother," said my dad.

"I sleep at night wondering all the time, could I have done more and I keep coming up with the answer, yes I could have done more. Does that console me? No. We've cried for nearly two decades for Justin, it's enough."

I think I've come to realise myself that maybe Justin wasn't the perfect person that I had painted when I was 10 years old, and maybe he did do some things that upset our family. But having said that I still don't excuse my dad for disowning his brother publicly.

My uncle's death and this family episode were tragic. But this should never disguise that Justin was proud to be who he was and proud to have been a pioneer.

[Locke.]

James McFadden is gay, Sol Campbell aswell apparently

[Smithy]

not openly though ^

[Locke.]

No, it is just creating hell for them if they are open about it, they would get destroyed by the crowd every single match

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

it is a well known fact proven by scientists that gay men are unable to kick a ball properly

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Scott

it is a well known fact proven by scientists that gay men are unable to kick a ball properly

I'll prove that fact wrong when I kick you in the balls.


It is sad that there is still such a stigma about homosexuality in a lot of areas including sport.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

Originally Posted by ukturtle

I'll prove that fact wrong when I kick you in the balls

please do

[arista]

Originally Posted by Scott

it is a well known fact proven by scientists that gay men are unable to kick a ball properly

If its well Known
you can provide a Link
to this.

[Shaun]

scott this is a serious debate :S :/ :@ i want proof of that claim or get out!!!

[Ramsay]

I thought Sol Campell was engaged?

[Locke.]

Originally Posted by Karl

I thought Sol Campell was engaged?

Just checked his wiki and he is married now with a kid. Could just remember all the rumors about him years ago. Says this aswell:

Campbell's brother John was jailed for twelve months in 2005 after assaulting a man who suggested Sol was homosexual.

[Marc]

Originally Posted by Shaun

scott this is a serious debate :S :/ :@ i want proof of that claim or get out!!!

Kick a ball for us..

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by Marc

Kick a ball for us..

I'm bi you mess, which means I can only play football with my right leg.

[Locke.]

Even if they wanted to be open about it they'd get advised against it from their agent and the club they played for

[King Gizzard]

Would get ripped apart if you ever openly announced it.

Having said that, theres a player called Xisco who played for Newcastle that's openly gay

[Loukas]

Originally Posted by Nathan

Would get ripped apart if you ever openly announced it.

Having said that, theres a player called Xisco who played for Newcastle that's openly gay

Apparently he's not out openly, photos of him surfaced online in early 2009 kissing/'smooching' other men but thats as far as that story goes.

As for the program, i think it's going to be interesting

[Niall]

I don't blame them for not coming out tbh. The immaturity of most football fans would probably just come out (excuse the pun) in every match through the medium of nasty chants and homophobic slurs.

But then again, if one person came out and soldered through it, then the stigma around the whole thing would diminish and it'd seem more acceptable.

[Patrick]

Let's be honest though, Football is a tad gay.

A bunch of men running around a field, touching eachother and then acting like they're ******ing kings and posing for pictures as if they're one of those cheesy American familes, after they won a game.

It's laughable how serious these bastards take it and how they all try to come across as masculine and hard, when the only thing hard about them is their dicks when they're chasing another player.

[Patrick]

Let's be honest though, Football is a tad gay.

A bunch of men running around a field, touching eachother and then acting like they're ******ing kings and posing for pictures as if they're one of those cheesy American familes, after they won a game.

It's laughable how serious these bastards take it and how they all try to come across as masculine and hard, when the only thing hard about them is their dicks when they're chasing another player.

[Locke.]

Football is the most serious and important thing on the planet Patrick

[Ramsay]

Patrick

[MeMyselfAndI]

Lmao Patrick

[Patrick]

I just think it's really OTT and blown out of proportion

[Niall]

Originally Posted by Patrick

Let's be honest though, Football is a tad gay.

A bunch of men running around a field, touching eachother and then acting like they're ******ing kings and posing for pictures as if they're one of those cheesy American familes, after they won a game.

It's laughable how serious these bastards take it and how they all try to come across as masculine and hard, when the only thing hard about them is their dicks when they're chasing another player.

Originally Posted by Patrick

I just think it's really OTT and blown out of proportion

[MeMyselfAndI]

I agree