[Jords]

Every final so far has either had more blokes in the final or an equal ratio. Pretty rare that so far more guys have been evicted!

Could BB13 be the first?

I see Lauren, Sara, Deana and Becky all having a good shot.
Edit: OH AND ASHLEIGH. Shes never getting nominated.

[reece(:]

As long as it's not like the BB11 final and more like the BB7 one

[lostalex]

It;'s definitely too early to tell.

[Yayita]

I think there will be more girls, from the boys I can see Scott and Adam maybe. From the girls I see Sara, Deana, Becky and Ashleigh because she flies under the radar and probably wont be nominated.

[Indy]

Is there time enough to get that many girls out? You need an eviction each for Conor, Caroline, and Shiv (the guaranteed outs who only win against each other), which still leaves Deana, Sara, Becky, Ashleigh, and Lauren. 4 of those 5 should be able to easily win over either Luke.

[joeysteele]

Well it's 7 to 5 at present women to men but I think it's too early to say yet, let's see what happens this week as to an eviction.

[Munchkins]

Even more shockingly, could we have a f2 of girls?
we have never ever had that
its either been 2 males or a female and male..

[lostalex]

who cares? why are you even keeping count?? When i watch the show i'm not counting how many str8's how many gays, how many girls how many boys, how many blacks, how many asians, how many whites.

Why are you even keeping count??

[Jords]

Originally Posted by lostalex

who cares? why are you even keeping count?? When i watch the show i'm not counting how many str8's how many gays, how many girls how many boys, how many blacks, how many asians, how many whites.

Why are you even keeping count??

..why not?

I think its interesting that its probably the only series where the girl HMs have more control in the house.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Jords

..why not?

I think its interesting that its probably the only series where the girl HMs have more control in the house.

BB8 was by far the most girl-centric house imo. they occupied the house from the beginning and they ruled it til the end.

but anyway, i just think it's bad news to keep these kinds of counts. I think this is a great series so far, and i don't think it has anyhting to do with girl/boy gay/str8 or races, i think it's an amazing diverse cast this year and they are all such individuals, i think we're kind of poisoning it by trying to analyze it based on groups or stereotypes. i think it's great that it's a diverse cast, but i think they are diverse because of their personalities, not because of the actual minority status of any of them.

this is a great cast because of the personalities, not because of any obvious stereotypes imo.

[swinearefine]

Originally Posted by lostalex

who cares? why are you even keeping count?? When i watch the show i'm not counting how many str8's how many gays, how many girls how many boys, how many blacks, how many asians, how many whites.

Why are you even keeping count??

Because it reflects a trend in the viewing audience. Men perform better on Big Brother than women. In 22 series, there has never been a majority of women in the finale.

[Yayita]

Originally Posted by lostalex

who cares? why are you even keeping count?? When i watch the show i'm not counting how many str8's how many gays, how many girls how many boys, how many blacks, how many asians, how many whites.

Why are you even keeping count??

I do, I'm all about girl power.. cant help it

[Indy]

Originally Posted by lostalex

who cares? why are you even keeping count?? When i watch the show i'm not counting how many str8's how many gays, how many girls how many boys, how many blacks, how many asians, how many whites.

Why are you even keeping count??

Sociology bores you, you don't want know nothing about it. We get it. Considering it's brought up by the show every single time that a woman always goes first, it's a statistic of interest.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Indy

Sociology bores you, you don't want know nothing about it. We get it. Considering it's brought up by the show every single time that a woman always goes first, it's a statistic of interest.

You obviously don't know anything about sociology, or you have a very racist sexist homophobic sociology teacher, because sociology has nothing to do with minority status.

Sociology is about how groups of people get along, which has nothing at all to do with their skin color, gender or sexuality, so please explain to me how sociology has anything to do with what i said??
If you've ever taken a sociology course then the first thing you'd learn is that you can't generalize about people based on their minority status.
Maybe you are taking sociology from a Nazi???

[Indy]

Originally Posted by lostalex

You obviously don't know anything about sociology, or you have a very racist sexist homophobic sociology teacher, because sociology has nothing to do with minority status.

Sociology is about how groups of people get along, which has nothing at all to do with their skin color, gender or sexuality, so please explain to me how sociology has anything to do with what i said??
If you've ever taken a sociology course then the first thing you'd learn is that you can't generalize about people based on their minority status.
Maybe you are taking sociology from a Nazi???

More like I've actually taken a social statistic class, devoted entirely to the study of behavior as it's categorized by either subjective or objective groups. For example, are men more likely than women to work from home. Do older people drink more or less frequently than younger people. If you think an entire branch of sociology does not exist, that's on you. I think you'll find most major universities disagree with you.

Incidentally - why do you automatically equate "female" to "minority status"?

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Indy

More like I've actually taken a social statistic class, devoted entirely to the study of behavior as it's categorized by either subjective or objective groups. For example, are men more likely than women to work from home. Do older people drink more or less frequently than younger people. If you think an entire branch of sociology does not exist, that's on you. I think you'll find most major universities disagree with you.

Incidentally - why do you automatically equate "female" to "minority status"?

I'm not saying that kind of study doesn't exist, i'm just shocked that yur paying to learn that crap. any behavioral study based on minority status has long been discredited by every serious educational body. If you can find any major educational institution that's wiling to say "black people behave this way, and women behave this way" i'll pay you 100 bucks, sounds like you go to a very poor school.

[lostalex]

I'm loving Deana and Adam right now, but it has nothing to do with her being indian or him being black, they are just awesome, you know?

I think it's unfair to keep count in that way, cause they are all such unique personalities, that bringing minority status into it, it just feels cheap.

[Jords]

Why are you bringing race into it?

You seem to be waffling on about nothing.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Jords

Why are you bringing race into it?

You seem to be waffling on about nothing.

umm, i do? yur the one that started a thread about classifying minorities.

race and sexuality is no different than classifying by gender.

I thought we were over that kind of classification by now. this is BB 2012 right??

[lostalex]

I see them all as individuals. I don't see gender, or sexuality, or race at all when i'm watching the show. I just see personalities.

[waterhog]

all the ladys in there are not nice apart from deana -

[lostalex]

to me none of them live up to the stereotypes. Adam is nothing like what you'd expect from an African-American former gang member, and Lauren is nothing like what you'd expect from such a beautiful upper-midle class white girl.

They have broken through all stereotypes.

lol, the so-called alpha male Luke S just told us all he'd rather spend time at the shopping mall then at the pub watching a football match...

I think this series really is great because all of them are not the typical type-cast housemates, they are all interesting individuals who don't fit into cookie cutter stereotypes.

[Jords]

Also BB8 if youre counting Samanda as 1 HM like they were, 2 females 4 males in the final

I have absolutely no idea what your issue is other than you trying to be quirky by doing the whole I dont curr about labels/categories blah blah just leave the thread if you dont like it.

Also theres always near enough an equal amount of boys/girls put in the BB house, whilst race is obviously dominated by British and sexuality straight. How is gender therefore 'minority'?

It could be a first in BB history to have a final consisiting of more females. Its an OBSERVATION. The girls have such a large influence on the house, especially Caroline, Deana and Shievonne. Lydia did too. The lads.. not so much.

[Brother Leon]

There is one girl I like this year so I hope not.

[lostalex]

this series makes me proud to be british, and i'm not even british LOL i think it's great how they all break out of the stereotypes.

how crazy was it seeing Conner, the suppossed "alpha male" curled up in the corner crying his eyes out. This season's cast is great, because they don't live up to any stereotypes, i'm loving it.