[n1kk1]

Ok so perhaps many will think I'm naive but I really don't believe BB can be a fix when people pay money to vote... Surely, of all the staff that have worked on the production team over the years, someone would have gone to the media and outed them.

It really annoys me when someones fave goes and they automatically call it a fix...

Am I on my own here by thinking it's genuine and the votes really do result in the evictee?

[smeagol]

i dont think any one evicted is a fix or if someone wins

i do think who they chose for the white room is a fix though and i do think they give extra attention to those they would like to keep in the show. i.e becky etc.
giving scott a secret task when up for eviction etc.
conor suddenly getting loads of time after the public wnated him out.
they do it all for ratings . thats why when they dont tell us whats goin on half the time.

[R0B1S]

Votes are definfitely not fixed, but BB can affect the outcome using other methods - biased editing for certain housemates, ridiculous twists etc.

[coolface]

they definitely have "chosen ones" who they give favourable edits to and sometimes they win and sometimes they don't, i.e. Grosie was the chosen one and won, aaron last year wasn't the chosen one but still won

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by coolface

they definitely have "chosen ones" who they give favourable edits to and sometimes they win and sometimes they don't, i.e. Grosie was the chosen one and won, aaron last year wasn't the chosen one but still won

Exactly, they do have chosen ones ,this years is Deana and IMO The not telling us if its a double ,after producer said it was, is to try to save Deana ,they are waiting to se how the voting goes before announcing it

[Sertius]

Originally Posted by coolface

they definitely have "chosen ones" who they give favourable edits to and sometimes they win and sometimes they don't, i.e. Grosie was the chosen one and won, aaron last year wasn't the chosen one but still won

Agree. Messing with the edits; poor sanctions for nomination talk; allowing nomination talk; not ejecting people such as after Conor's rant; allowing noms talk in the form of bitching; having pathetic twists biased for some housemates; waiting on votes before confirming single or double eviction. The list of teechniques employed to influence and manipulate the public could go on.

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by Sertius

Agree. Messing with the edits; poor sanctions for nomination talk; allowing nomination talk; not ejecting people such as after Conor's rant; allowing noms talk in the form of bitching; having pathetic twists biased for some housemates; waiting on votes before confirming single or double eviction. The list of teechniques employed to influence and manipulate the public could go on.

Yes I'd have to agree the shows producers have almost total control over how the show progresses, they can pick the HM that fit their "types" , they can test them psychometrically build up profiles so they have a pretty good idea how they will react under a variety of stresses. They pick the environment , the settings, the Moods, they pick the tasks and they decide on all the twists.

They can manipulate situations to achieve their hoped for nominations, and then they can edit the HL show to swing public opinion their way. With no live feed how would we know what the HM are really like.

Also by accessing Twitter, Facebook and forum sites like these they can get instant feedback re their audience preferences so can manipulate to keep the show "exciting"

But at least the votes received are not fixed. Good to know the public are in complete control....!!!!

[MeMyselfAndI]

They're not allowed to fix the vote..
Although they do fix the editing to try and get the winner they want, ie Jay last year. Didn't show alot of his disgusting antics!

[MeMyselfAndI]

They're not allowed to fix the vote..
Although they do fix the editing to try and get the winner they want, ie Jay last year. Didn't show alot of his disgusting antics!

[pcro]

Originally Posted by MeMyselfandI

They're not allowed to fix the vote..
Although they do fix the editing to try and get the winner they want, ie Jay last year. Didn't show alot of his disgusting antics!

If they didnt show these so-called disgusting antics, how do you know about them?

[sampvt]

They cant fix the vote per say. If the votes are counted and verified these are the results end of, but they can fix the results in a different way. They can mess with the phone lines, selective editing, waiting to anounce double evictions etc etc. This year they are making the rules up as they go along and its making the public nervous. Boyfriendless pretty boy Jamie and that hyperactive YTS girl from the task team have ruined this years series.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by sampvt

They cant fix the vote per say. If the votes are counted and verified these are the results end of, but they can fix the results in a different way. They can mess with the phone lines, selective editing, waiting to anounce double evictions etc etc. This year they are making the rules up as they go along and its making the public nervous. Boyfriendless pretty boy Jamie and that hyperactive YTS girl from the task team have ruined this years series.

^^

[Macie Lightfoot]

Oh god not this chosen on bull**** again

[Munchkins]

No its not rigged
Also how is Deana the chosen one? if she was they would not have shown her upsetting Luke S etc - as this has put her in a negative light to some people

[glasstangerine]

I think they definitely manipulate things to get the most people voting, ie show Deana in a sympathetic light and then make it seem like no one on BOTS likes her. Or pit two people against each other when you know they have a certain type of group backing them, like Conor and the Irish or some other housemate and their region/race/belief system/lifestyle.

and they say "who knows, anything can happen" with every single eviction even though you can see based on polls, twitter followers, public opinion etc, that certain people are getting a huge majority of the vote.

You watch, after the show is over they will say something like "it was clear that Deana would win since week X," when they pretended the whole time it was a huge mystery what the public were thinking.

[crumbling8]

Deana to WIN.........ALL the WAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[AshesonMars]

It's not a fix, it's just sour grapes from the fans. I can't abide Aaron who won it last year, but BB didn't fix it for him to win it.

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by AshesonMars

It's not a fix, it's just sour grapes from the fans.

[2]

What reason would BB even have to fix the show

[sampvt]

When we had live feed, we never had these discussions, why, because the producers had to play by the rules. CH5 are taking the piss and killing a well worn tried and tested but sometimes old format. Pay peanuts, get monkeys, employ monkeys, dont expect results.

[pcro]

Originally Posted by sampvt

When we had live feed, we never had these discussions, why, because the producers had to play by the rules. CH5 are taking the piss and killing a well worn tried and tested but sometimes old format. Pay peanuts, get monkeys, employ monkeys, dont expect results.

As a long time viewer of the American BB which still has a live feed, let me assure you it is no guarantee against false editing. The US producers often ignore reality altogether the create their story lines shifting conversation s around, showing them out of context and not even in chronological order. What appears on the show often bears little resmblance to what was seen on the live feed. It realy is like two different shows for people who watch the feeds.

[Ramsay]

they have favourites and do edit in certain people's favor but no way do they full on fix the votes and anyone that thinks they do that are silly

[Ramsay]

if they loved conor so much they wouldn't of even shown his rant about deana

[cassieparis]

Originally Posted by Karl

if they loved conor so much they wouldn't of even shown his rant about deana

I would bet my bank balance that there was a special producer's conference over that edit.
I'm sure that they debated long and hard over showing that rant and only let it be shown once they had created a nice solution to saving their big diII.

[Jords]

There has been some obvious manipulation of the editting for the HLs

[Josy]

No