[Lord Of The Garden]

Picture it.

Another male housemate who was 45 with no disabilities at all and who looked like Harry Redknapp (not Harry Styles) but who had behaved EXACTLY as Sam did these past few weeks

Same jokes, same comments about women, same amount of time in bed etc

Do you think HE would have won?

Honestly?

[Livia]

The fact is, Sam isn't a 45 year old man, so it's not worth picturing it.

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by Livia

The fact is, Sam isn't a 45 year old man, so it's not worth picturing it.

Why not? Does that image not do it for you?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Simple Minds

Why not? Does that image not do it for you?

Well, it rather depends on the 45 year old I'm supposed to be picturing! Sam doesn't work for me at any age.

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by Livia

Well, it rather depends on the 45 year old I'm supposed to be picturing! Sam doesn't work for me at any age.

[Lord Of The Garden]

It's just a hypothetical question and one that's worth asking

Do people vote just for housemate's personality or are they influenced by other factors such as their age, looks, disabilities, background stories etc ?

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by Lord Of The Garden

It's just a hypothetical question and one that's worth asking

Do people vote just for housemate's personality or are they influenced by other factors such as their age, looks, disabilities, background stories etc ?

Well considering I'm a heterosexual male and I wanted Sam to win I can't really help you with your question.


Out of the girls I found Sophie the most sexually appealing but I never wanted her to win.

[RichardG]

There was a huge amount of teenage girls on twitter saying they were voting for him because he was cute. If he was ugly as sin he would have had difficulty gaining as much support as he did, though the anti-Ginxter vote was pretty strong so he could have still won.

I don't believe his disability won it for him though. I'll be honest and say it probably was beneficial for him but if it was entirely down to that then SteveBB11 and MikeyBB9 would have won too.

[Tozzie]

Originally Posted by RichardG

There was a huge amount of teenage girls on twitter saying they were voting for him because he was cute. If he was ugly as sin he would have had difficulty gaining as much support as he did, though the anti-Ginxter vote was pretty strong so he could have still won.

I don't believe his disability won it for him though. I'll be honest and say it probably was beneficial for him but if it was entirely down to that then SteveBB11 and MikeyBB9 would have won too.

I think his hearing affliction, youth, good looks and body all quite possibly contributed to his win especially by the younger teeny bopper female viewer. SteveBB11 & MikeyBB9 didn't have the youthful good looks and body that Sam has.

[alex_front2]

Sam looks way younger than 23.

In fact if I saw him on the street I'd put him as actually 16/17 and not actually an adult.

There are loads of factors that played into him winning

• good looks/ harry styles looks
• looks young and angelic
• welsh vote
• deaf vote
• being seen as the good guy
• not doing anything to p*ss of voters whereas all other finalists had e.g. charlie's love triangle
• befriending Gina so not all her votes went to Dexter
• declaring 'feelings' to Gina knowing he was going to be rebuffed: "aww poor Sam"
• sticking up for unpopular Callum
• not just appealing to tweenies but older women when he romanced Jemima (loads of 30+ women fancied him)
• getting tasks that made him likeable e.g. joke task whereas Gina and Dexter got tasks that made them look bad e.g. Queen B and Magic task
• walking around with top off and having a surprisingly good body and a very good pout
• C5 determine to get him to win so editing out sexist offensive comments
• telling lies about nicey wicey 'Sophie' so that she looks as if she ignores him whereas in reality she constantly tried to get him out of bed in SH
• taking on Dexter in last 2 weeks and attempting to make him look bad
• not falling out with Charlie when Callum was angry with her
• being the 2nd lowest paid/ poorest housemate after Wolfy

[mikkil]

Exactly right - he was the biggest game player of them all - but not in the nicest way at all

Maybe he will use some of the winnings to learn the alphabet - as he is aged 23
My grandaughter knows it at 2.5 and can recognise all the letters and spell her name

[johnx]

Think its fair to say Sam played the deaf card throughout-if it wasnt for this he wouldnt have even got through the vetting process. He did bring his deafness up alot-made more of it that yer man Steve from another BB who lost an eye and both legs. He had a strategey-sell himself as a role model for young deaf kids and memorise alot of terrible jokes to make himself seem like a fun guy.

Lets face it winning a reality show wont really do much for deaf people-unless Sam donates a large chunk to charities concerned.Thats not to say Sam didnt do well considering his dissability,so if he is a decent bloke good luck to him.

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by johnx

Think its fair to say Sam played the deaf card throughout-if it wasnt for this he wouldnt have even got through the vetting process. He did bring his deafness up alot-made more of it that yer man Steve from another BB who lost an eye and both legs. He had a strategey-sell himself as a role model for young deaf kids and memorise alot of terrible jokes to make himself seem like a fun guy.

Lets face it winning a reality show wont really do much for deaf people-unless Sam donates a large chunk to charities concerned.Thats not to say Sam didnt do well considering his dissability,so if he is a decent bloke good luck to him.

Whether he does it or not is another thing but he has said he will give 25% to charity.

[CaudleHalbard]

Originally Posted by Simple Minds

he has said he will give 25% to charity.

And we all believe in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy!

Lol!

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

And we all believe in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy!

Lol!

Don't you dare tell me Santa Claus isn't real?


Who else gives my stocking a right good stuffing every Christmas Eve??!!

[Lord Of The Garden]

alex_front2 - that is some quality BB analysis right there !

Sam sure played a good game - and was dealt a helpful hand to play with by BB's editing, personal tasks etc.

eg - they never gave Sam the difficult choice to make someone 'disappear', just a comedy task with no such controversial fall out

Shame he never had the good grace to thank his voting public when he won or tip his hat to the other housemates for their part. Bit of good sportsmanship wouldn't have gone amiss, especially as he is supposed to be the nice guy..

[hijaxers]

Originally Posted by Lord Of The Garden

alex_front2 - that is some quality BB analysis right there !

Sam sure played a good game - and was dealt a helpful hand to play with by BB's editing, personal tasks etc.

eg - they never gave Sam the difficult choice to make someone 'disappear', just a comedy task with no such controversial fall out

Shame he never had the good grace to thank his voting public when he won or tip his hat to the other housemates for their part. Bit of good sportsmanship wouldn't have gone amiss, especially as he is supposed to be the nice guy..

Yes and i thought his behaviour was shocking on BBOTS.
He couldn't get an intelligible sentence out
He was rude about Dexter - when Dexter was mega nice to him when he found out Sam was the winner !
All in all he remained the cruse little s***e that her really is !

Shocking display of NO MANNERS

[hijaxers]

Originally Posted by Lord Of The Garden

alex_front2 - that is some quality BB analysis right there !

Sam sure played a good game - and was dealt a helpful hand to play with by BB's editing, personal tasks etc.

eg - they never gave Sam the difficult choice to make someone 'disappear', just a comedy task with no such controversial fall out

Shame he never had the good grace to thank his voting public when he won or tip his hat to the other housemates for their part. Bit of good sportsmanship wouldn't have gone amiss, especially as he is supposed to be the nice guy..

Yes and i thought his behaviour was shocking on BBOTS.
He couldn't get an intelligible sentence out
He was rude about Dexter - when Dexter was mega nice to him when he found out Sam was the winner !
All in all he remained the crude little s***e that her really is !

Shocking display of NO MANNERS

[Lord Of The Garden]

Santa is definitely real

I met him at my school Christmas fete.

Looked so much like the deputy headmaster, it was uncanny.

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by Lord Of The Garden

Santa is definitely real

I met him at my school Christmas fete.

Looked so much like the deputy headmaster, it was uncanny.

Yeh they do say Santa always looks like someone you know. One year he looked a bit like my Dad, which was a good thing too cos he was snogging the face off my Mum. It's a secret I've kept to this day....

[Tozzie]

Originally Posted by Simple Minds

Yeh they do say Santa always looks like someone you know. One year he looked a bit like my Dad, which was a good thing too cos he was snogging the face off my Mum. It's a secret I've kept to this day....

yes,
you saw mummy kissing santa claus,
underneath the mistletoe that night
She didn't see you creep
Down the stairs to have a peek
She thought that you were tucked
up in your bedroom fast alseep!

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by Tozzie

yes,
you saw mummy kissing santa claus,
underneath the mistletoe that night
She didn't see you creep
Down the stairs to have a peek
She thought that you were tucked
up in your bedroom fast alseep!

You sang a Christmas song??!!

That's bad luck Tozzie, quick kick a black cat!

[Tozzie]

Originally Posted by Simple Minds

You sang a Christmas song??!!

That's bad luck Tozzie, quick kick a black cat!

It wasn't me, it was Caudlehalbart pos/ting as me

[Jords]

Hearing 88%
Age 9%
Looks 3%

[Raph]

Welsh 70%