[Josy]

Is torture ever acceptable?

Imagine this scenario

A terrorist group states that it has concealed a nuclear bomb in London, the authorities have captured the leader of the group and he says that he knows where the bomb is but refuses to reveal the location

You are advised that torture is guaranteed to produce the information needed to ensure the authorities find and make the bomb safe

Do you authorise it?

[Jake.]

Yes, he's endangering the lives of possibly thousands

[Jack_]

Never ever ever ever ever

[GypsyGoth]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Never ever ever ever ever

I think you're just as bad as the terrorist then.

You could have stopped a bomb going off but chose not to.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

I think you're just as bad as the terrorist then.

You could have stopped a bomb going off but chose not to.

Torture isn't guaranteed to produce any kind of result and they could always lie about the location to make it end anyway and by the time they realise it's false information it will have inevitably gone off so...

Perhaps anyone that advocates, signs off or carries out acts of torture should be tortured themselves, maybe then they'll change their perspective

I would actually rather kill someone than torture them, it is barbaric, sadistic and disgusting and never justifiable

This is one of those topics that I could really get angry over so maybe it's best I leave this thread...

[GypsyGoth]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Torture isn't guaranteed to produce any kind of result and they could always lie about the location to make it end anyway and by the time they realise it's false information it will have inevitably gone off so...

Perhaps anyone that advocates, signs off or carries out acts of torture should be tortured themselves, maybe then they'll change their perspective

I would actually rather kill someone than torture them, it is barbaric, sadistic and disgusting and never justifiable

This is one of those topics that I could really get angry over so maybe it's best I leave this thread...

Ok I'm going to reply but I don't want you to get angry at me.

In the case that Josy put forward, a nuclear bomb is going to go off, you can torture the terrorist and find out the information you need, it's location and how to make it safe.

So in this scenario, torture works, and all you have to do is allow the torture to go ahead and you save millions. The alternative is, like what you want to do, is don't torture him and let millions of innocent people die. All so you will have an unsullied conscience.

[arista]

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

Ok I'm going to reply but I don't want you to get angry at me.

In the case that Josy put forward, a nuclear bomb is going to go off, you can torture the terrorist and find out the information you need, it's location and how to make it safe.

So in this scenario, torture works, and all you have to do is allow the torture to go ahead and you save millions. The alternative is, like what you want to do, is don't torture him and let millions of innocent people die. All so you will have an unsullied conscience.

Yes GyspyGoth
You Are Most Wise

[arista]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Torture isn't guaranteed to produce any kind of result and they could always lie about the location to make it end anyway and by the time they realise it's false information it will have inevitably gone off so...

Perhaps anyone that advocates, signs off or carries out acts of torture should be tortured themselves, maybe then they'll change their perspective

I would actually rather kill someone than torture them, it is barbaric, sadistic and disgusting and never justifiable

This is one of those topics that I could really get angry over so maybe it's best I leave this thread...

Feck Me Jack
a Nuke is going to off
So give the Fecker Hell

[GypsyGoth]

Sure, I'd waterboard the **** out of him.

[Jake.]

actually how much torture are we talking? I wouldn't stab him or anything, perhaps just pinch his nipples or something

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Jake.

actually how much torture are we talking? I wouldn't stab him or anything, perhaps just pinch his nipples or something

he might like that though,Jake.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Jake.

perhaps just pinch his nipples or something

I think you're just as bad as the terrorist then.

[GiRTh]

No never.

[Loukas]

Yes, it is expectable. I would use Chinese water torture personally

[GiRTh]

Do the forum member know how to water board? I know how to do it and frankly to put someone thru that would destroy me. I don't think I could do it.

EDIt: Thinking about it that would be a good question., Would you torture someone to get information out of them?

[GypsyGoth]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Do the forum member know how to water board? I know how to do it and frankly to put someone thru that would destroy me. I don't think I could do it.

Even if it meant saving the lives of the people you love?

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

Even if it meant saving the lives of the people you love?

the most honest answer I can give you is - I dont know.

[GypsyGoth]

And I've seen it in a couple of movies, I'm not sure how accurate it was. One of the films was Zero Dark Thirty, that changed my opinion on torture.

[michael21]

Originally Posted by Josy

Is torture ever acceptable?

Imagine this scenario



Do you authorise it?

no because that group don't seem that pro as the leader be got

[GypsyGoth]

*waterboards michael21*

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

*waterboards michael21*

[michael21]

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

*waterboards michael21*

dye gg hair pink

know everyone going to called you green as i not good at dyeing

[Scarlett.]

No, torture is never acceptable, once a country decides to torture someone, its set itself off on a dark path. See American and the UK post-9/11.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Do the forum member know how to water board? I know how to do it and frankly to put someone thru that would destroy me. I don't think I could do it.

EDIt: Thinking about it that would be a good question., Would you torture someone to get information out of them?

That is the question?

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Josy

That is the question?

Again the most honest answer I can give you - I don't know. Water boarding can screw people up for 15 -20 years. It would depend on the situation.