[lily.]

That would be good. I can't stand either of them. They're too 'in your face' and just talk 'at' people and never listen..

[Samm]

I don't understand why everybody has started hated on toya

Just because she be came friends with Pauline, she's nothing like Pauline either

[reece(:]

People want Toya out too because she's guilty by association I'm assuming, which is a daft reason.

[lovebigbrotheruk]

I don't actually get what Toya's done that is so bad...?

Bit suspicious of you if you ask me...

Night!

[Gstar]

"you're not listening" *Toya voice*

[lovebigbrotheruk]

Originally Posted by lily.

That would be good. I can't stand either of them. They're too 'in your face' and just talk 'at' people and never listen..

And well done, for naming all the stereotypes of black women in one post

[Josy]

Originally Posted by lovebigbrotheruk

And well done, for naming all the stereotypes of black women in one post

Can you pack it in bringing race up in almost every post. It's tedious.

[lovebigbrotheruk]

Originally Posted by Josy

Can you pack it in bringing race up in almost every post. It's tedious.

It's true though. People say all these things not realising that they are subconsciously sprouting out stuff they have been brainwashed into believing by the media since the minute they were born.

Not a lot of you are actually 'racist', you just have views stipulated based on race without even realising.

I'm tired now, so night!

I quite enjoyed BB tonight

[Iceman]

Originally Posted by lovebigbrotheruk

It's true though. People say all these things not realising that they are subconsciously sprouting out stuff they have been brainwashed into believing by the media since the minute they were born.

Not a lot of you are actually 'racist', you just have views stipulated based on race without even realising.

I'm tired now, so night!

I quite enjoyed BB tonight

Oh wow.....people with an opinion on a black housemate are not racist.....thats just wrong to say that....the OP mentioned two things to describe the housemate....YOU have taken it up as a race issue. Maybe YOU are the one who is believing what the media has conditioned you to think.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by lovebigbrotheruk

It's true though. People say all these things not realising that they are subconsciously sprouting out stuff they have been brainwashed into believing by the media since the minute they were born.

Not a lot of you are actually 'racist', you just have views stipulated based on race without even realising.

I'm tired now, so night!

I quite enjoyed BB tonight

Wow... LOL...

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by lovebigbrotheruk

It's true though. People say all these things not realising that they are subconsciously sprouting out stuff they have been brainwashed into believing by the media since the minute they were born.

Not a lot of you are actually 'racist', you just have views stipulated based on race without even realising.

I'm tired now, so night!

I quite enjoyed BB tonight

..this really is not true at all..for myself I liked both Pauline and Toya on first impressions..Pauline I now think is very much a bully personality, which is something that has come out more and more in the week they have been in the house..that's completely and absolutely to do with her personality..although with Toya, I'm not really decided on what my opinion of her is yet, I do totally agree with the OP in that she does appear to 'talk at' people and not to them and only consider her own view which she tries to enforce on other people...I have no problem with people being 'outspoken' or what their opinion is but with Toya it's quite often when people don't agree..'you're not listening'...'you don't understand' type thing...and that thing where she doesn't seem to accept anything other than what she herself thinks and if someone doesn't agree then they're just stupid..?..

[Ammi]

..I always find it quite interesting, the difference between 'rude' and 'real/honest'..they're not the same thing at all...

[likklemiss44]

Yes please, Toya has to be next to go...who is she? Simon Cowell or what? she's just going around judging people herself and saying you should say it to the person's face...lighten up girl...you must be pauline's younger sister....get some personality!

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by lovebigbrotheruk

It's true though. People say all these things not realising that they are subconsciously sprouting out stuff they have been brainwashed into believing by the media since the minute they were born.

Not a lot of you are actually 'racist', you just have views stipulated based on race without even realising.

I'm tired now, so night!

I quite enjoyed BB tonight

So it has nothing to do with the two women in question actually being either of those things?

Ok then.

People loved Pauline for the first 3-4 days or so, so your "brainwashed racist" crap doesn't hold any water.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Josy

Can you pack it in bringing race up in almost every post. It's tedious.

[flamingGalah!]

I wasn't aware that being 'In your Face' was a stereotypically black woman thing Does that make me racist??

But yes Toya is just awful, an obnoxious, opinionated bitch...

[lily.]

Originally Posted by flamingGalah!

I wasn't aware that being 'In your Face' was a stereotypically black woman thing Does that make me racist??

But yes Toya is just awful, an obnoxious, opinionated bitch...

I wasn't either..

It's not like I said.. 'omg I hate Toya.. she's got a ghetto booty and is amazing at basketball'

[Livia]

Originally Posted by lovebigbrotheruk

And well done, for naming all the stereotypes of black women in one post

it's nothing to do with them being black and everything to do with them being dickheads. What a ridiculous thing to say.

[Robodog]

Originally Posted by lovebigbrotheruk

And well done, for naming all the stereotypes of black women in one post

1. It has nothing to do with race! If you read a written transcript of Toya talking 'at' Jale the other night without knowing her gender/racial type then it would still sound just as in 'your face'

2. YOU were the one to equate those qualities to being stereotypical of black women - no one else did!

I think most people here would agree that ANYONE is capable of being 'in your face' etc - white/black/male or female!

etc etc

[lily.]

um... ok...

Anyway, Toya comes across as the kind of person who wants to shout her opinion at you and not listen to yours unless it is the same..

She also pulled that 'you're not listening' thing when basically she meant 'you're not agreeing with me'.

My dislike of Toya has nothing to do with Pauline.

I also noted early on that she likes to sit by herself and talk to the cameras. I hate that.

[likklemiss44]

so agree with your comment

[Lola844]

Originally Posted by lily.

um... ok...

Anyway, Toya comes across as the kind of person who wants to shout her opinion at you and not listen to yours unless it is the same..

She also pulled that 'you're not listening' thing when basically she meant 'you're not agreeing with me'.

My dislike of Toya has nothing to do with Pauline.

I also noted early on that she likes to sit by herself and talk to the cameras. I hate that.

You mean like Jale, with her. Please don't crying...please don't cry while she looked right into the camera. Give me a break. You dislike Toya because she's not sucking up to Jale's big ass. People who tend to identify with "the underdogs" will always have a problem with strong personalities.

[Iceman]

Yeah I find her very annoying....her oit after pauline would be perfect

[lily.]

Eoin.. the voice of reason..

TiBB is not worthy..

[Iceman]

Originally Posted by lily.

Eoin.. the voice of reason..

TiBB is not worthy..

Someone gotta do it lily!!!

Just did a ten hour shift and back in at 7am....cath ya soon!