[Jake.]

But now I'm actually beginning to see this as bullying (and believe me, I don't use that word lightly, I've had enough of it myself ), but the treatment is getting shocking in Jale's case. I know that people claim that it's just bitching, but to go into a room for the evening knowing that half of the housemates don't like you/don't want to be in your presence and then to be snapped at for a mistake of using lipstick (****ing lipstick).. dunno, I just think how alone I'd feel in that type of situation. Obviously Jale has her friends, but they don't want to sit with her all evening, because that's not 'cool' with the other kids. Fair play to Winston mind, he actually went up in my estimations.

[Josy]

Yeah it's really bad now, felt terrible or her when she only just walked in to join the group and Helen sniped at her right away.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Josy

Yeah it's really bad now, felt terrible or her when she only just walked in to join the group and Helen sniped at her right away.

Yeah, even muttering under her breath 'god she better not come over here' or whatever it was.

[Scream]

i just know in that situation i'd sit with her all night

[lily.]

Winston went up in my estimations tonight.

[jet]

Originally Posted by lily.

Winston went up in my estimations tonight.

Yes, me too. I wish he had stuck up for Jale though when Horrendous Helen deliberately picked on her about the lip stuff. But I can understand why he didn't.
It's really uncomfortable viewing now. I not enjoying it this year at the moment because Helen and Pauline are just TOO awful. Hateful, hateful people.

[Marsh.]

Yeah, I can't believe some people are striving for this atmosphere/dynamic to continue.

Am I the only one that doesn't find any of it entertaining?

If this is a preview at what the whole series is going to be about, fake drama, constant bitching and petty cliques then I may have to switch off.

Pauline droning on and Helen's queen bee act is just getting boring.

[lily.]

Originally Posted by Livia

So many of us groan every year when the word "bully" is thrown around, but this year, the same people who usually groan recognise that this time, the accusations are correct.

I agree. I usually hate the whole 'bullying' shenanigans that gets bandied about every year, but this year it really is.

Originally Posted by Doogle

It's not quite a Deana situation but it's definitely bullying and singling her out. I'm not finding Jale's treatment entertaining so I hope she stands her ground soon

I'm not finding it entertaining and she can't win.. even if she stands her ground.. she's on her own.. and it's obvious to her. It's really sad.

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Yeah, I can't believe some people are striving for this atmosphere/dynamic to continue.

Am I the only one that doesn't find any of it entertaining?

If this is a preview at what the whole series is going to be about, fake drama, constant bitching and petty cliques then I may have to switch off.

Pauline droning on and Helen's queen bee act is just getting boring.

I'm struggling to get through the show right now.. and can only hope Pauline gets chucked out at the end of the week. That should help a little bit, but the fact that Helen has a pass to the final means that we have to endure her behaviour until the end. This is shocking.

[Doogle]

Originally Posted by lily.

I'm not finding it entertaining and she can't win.. even if she stands her ground.. she's on her own.. and it's obvious to her. It's really sad.

Hmm true.. I'm just hoping she can do something so that people will give her a chance. I really want to root for her, she's a great character

[lovebigbrotheruk]

I think Helen is bullying. I don't think they are all bullies, and I actually don't believe Pauline's a bully. Some of them just so happen to enjoy spending time with Helen, which makes it look like a group mentality.

Jale is not stupid people. She knows what she is doing, she can handle herself.

[smeagol]

its nowhere near as bad as the deana bb though

those b atchs just bully anyone. jale christopher. chris anyone who doesn't want to kneel down before the demons

[Lostie!]

What made the lip balm situation worse was that Jale had literally only just entered after clearly being too nervous to go in. As soon as she does, she's jumped on for a complete non-issue.

[Jamesy]

Pauline and Helen are the bullies and the ringleaders. The rest seem to be playing sheep really. Once Pauline is out I can see group dynamics changing slightly, depending on how Helen controls the 'cool' group.

[Livia]

So many of us groan every year when the word "bully" is thrown around, but this year, the same people who usually groan recognise that this time, the accusations are correct.

[Doogle]

It's not quite a Deana situation but it's definitely bullying and singling her out. I'm not finding Jale's treatment entertaining so I hope she stands her ground soon

[InOne]

I think they all know deep down Helen is a bitch but at least she seems to admit it. What's worse is all this horrible worship of Pauline that's going on in the house. We had two long speeches from separate HM's of how great she is

[Hofman]

Not sure if it's bullying, I don't know where the line is drawn, but it is cruel and really unnecessary to another human being who can't escape anywhere else.

[lily.]

Originally Posted by InOne

I think they all know deep down Helen is a bitch but at least she seems to admit it. What's worse is all this horrible worship of Pauline that's going on in the house. We had two long speeches from separate HM's of how great she is

That irks me.. how great thou art... jfc.. are they gonna feel like tools when they get out of there..

[InOne]

Originally Posted by lily.

That irks me.. how great thou art... jfc.. are they gonna feel like tools when they get out of there..

Clearly there's something we're not seeing because the love of Pauline makes no sense at all going by the HL's.

[Gillian-73]

Originally Posted by Josy

Yeah it's really bad now, felt terrible or her when she only just walked in to join the group and Helen sniped at her right away.

It was awful to watch and in no way entertaining

Originally Posted by Jake.

Yeah, even muttering under her breath 'god she better not come over here' or whatever it was.

She is a cruel nasty bitch

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Yeah, I can't believe some people are striving for this atmosphere/dynamic to continue.

Am I the only one that doesn't find any of it entertaining?

If this is a preview at what the whole series is going to be about, fake drama, constant bitching and petty cliques then I may have to switch off.

Pauline droning on and Helen's queen bee act is just getting boring.

It is not entertaining in the slightest to me

Originally Posted by Livia

So many of us groan every year when the word "bully" is thrown around, but this year, the same people who usually groan recognise that this time, the accusations are correct.

Yes, I hate the bully word come bb time but it has got some real and genuine merit for its use in this case.

[joeysteele]

I too dislike the term bully but I do have to say from the way Pauline goes on about Jale behind her back and stirrring up bad feeling towards her, then Helen firing the gun a lot at her,there is really no other term for it but bullying.
Especially as there is no need for it to be so hostile at all.

[Jemal]

All of them need to be like King Winston.