[Josy]

When ash leaves tomorrow do you think Helen will be secluded?

If so do you think that's fair?

The housemates are already leaving a room when she enters, discussing her behind her back etc and when this was happening with Jale it was deemed as a form of bullying (Although she never done anything to deserve it imo)

So would Helen deserve getting that sort of treatment or should no one be left to feel alone or picked on regardless of past behaviour.

Opinions?

[flamingGalah!]

Hopefully & yes it is fair.

[chuff me dizzy]

Yes and I think its fair ,with cant get away with what she has and expect everyone to be your mate, she deserves all she gets

[lily.]

I don't think it's bullying so much as it is people not wanting to be around her because of her volatile, aggressive personality.

[Sophiee]

probably to an extent, although I expect her just to hang around with winston and marlon if he goes. yes it's fair; if people don't want to be around her then they shouldn't have to be, maybe if she learned to control her words/actions better then people wouldn't have this problem with her, she's brought it all on herself.

[smeagol]

normally they put dogs in quarentine

The will need to muzzle her if ash goes

[Kizzy]

Maybe, and she did attempt to ostracize others so she can't complain really. However the counter attack is not being viewed as important which is a bit of a double standard.

[ladyb1itz]

I wouldn't want to be in the same room as her due to the way she has treated others in the house. She is just vile and deserves everything she gets.

[Patricia4]

Originally Posted by ladyb1itz

I wouldn't want to be in the same room as her due to the way she has treated others in the house. She is just vile and deserves everything she gets.

I think the same

[Marsh.]

Everyone except Ash is avoiding her?

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Everyone except Ash is avoiding her?

No lol

But Marlon and Winston only sit with her because ash is there imo everyone else hates her

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Josy

No lol

But Marlon and Winston only sit with her because ash is there imo everyone else hates her

Ooh, then this is interesting if Ash is evicted then.

I'll have to wait to see how it unfolds before saying if I think it's right or anything.

But, unlike Jale, Helen has done a lot to make enemies in the house. I don't like to see anyone secluded but she's brought it upon herself.

I can't imagine Helen is the type of person to just sit there on her own, or the type to start sucking up but I can imagine she'd gradually make amends. Or at least Mark will advise her, he tells them how it is but sticks by them if they're struggling.

But then we know Winston doesn't leave someone sat alone either. Lol. She'll be fine.

Spoiler:

UNTIL JENNY ARRIVES!!!

[Josy]

Oh wait I forgot about Mark he is friends with her too

[Me. I Am Salman]

they'll obviously make amends if she becomes secluded.

[Scream]

ya she won't be secluded for long. she's a very dominating character and she'll probably end up becoming in charge of ashleigh and danielle lmao. they will look so bad as they've been slagging her off for weeks

[chuff me dizzy]

Kims firmly wedge up her arse, so those 2 could move away from others, it would be Kims downfall if she did

[arista]

Originally Posted by Josy

When ash leaves tomorrow do you think Helen will be secluded?

If so do you think that's fair?

The housemates are already leaving a room when she enters, discussing her behind her back etc and when this was happening with Jale it was deemed as a form of bullying (Although she never done anything to deserve it imo)

So would Helen deserve getting that sort of treatment or should no one be left to feel alone or picked on regardless of past behaviour.

Opinions?

No keep Ash in

The Maggot Slayer

[Ellen]

I dont think the lads will ignore her and she does get on with Kim.

[Drew.]

Most definitely

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

She deserve to be secluded, she so horrible to nearly everyone in there, I do believe some of the HM's are scared of with her outburst in the house.

[John-s]

Ash ain't going no where.... Not while toya can still congregate and give exciting and intelligent speeches....lol

Breaking news..... http://youtu.be/Te6bdw9gI88

[wendywillow]

ash isn't leaving (at least I don't think so) and Helen wont be secluded, she would by Ashleigh/toya/matthew but that's about it

[Jewel]

If Ash is evicted this Friday then I think Winston, Marlon, Steve and Kim will remain friendly but keep a slight distance from Helen and not get involved. I think Mark will still be her friend but he will not want to be with her all the time so he will do what he's always done and go back and forth within the group. I can see an argument brewing with her and Mark in the future as he won't be told what to think and he will stand up to her.

I hope Jenny does not go in and this is just a rumour as I want to watch how the group dynamics play out plus as much as Helen has been vile and nasty to some of the other housemates I would not like to see her destroyed. I know she has been horrible but she has shown glimmers of the person she could be if she would stop thinking everyone has an issue with her and go on the defensive. I would love her to drop her guard and show everyone that underneath all the layers there is a kind caring person.

Having said all the above I'd be happy for either Chris, Jale or Christopher to win.

[Josy]

I think I'm a bit too soft tbh, I know she's horrible, she has treated others in there horrible but if the roles end up reversed and she ends up isolated and sitting alone all the time I won't be able to help but feel a tiny bit sorry for her, I don't think it's ok for anyone to be secluded really.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Josy

I think I'm a bit too soft tbh, I know she's horrible, she has treated others in there horrible but if the roles end up reversed and she ends up isolated and sitting alone all the time I won't be able to help but feel a tiny bit sorry for her, I don't think it's ok for anyone to be secluded really.

I feel a bit like that too , I don't like her but I have found myself feeling a little sorry for her sometimes as she doesn't seem to know how to get her opinions across without being aggressive and loud .