[Josy]

Do you think Ash would have been different in the house if Helen hadn't been there or even if she was but they hadn't become close?

[Jack_]

I think he'd be much more of the bore he was in the first week or so where he didn't even get any airtime

[Samm]

Originally Posted by Jack_

I think he'd be much more of the bore he was in the first week or so where he didn't even get any airtime

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[Kizzy]

Impossible to say really, if the dynamic had been different hypothetically speaking lots would be different I guess.
He is a bit of an arse, he tried to play the laid back dude but it's not him.

[erinp5]

No what we see is who he is, but I do believe his friendon BBBOTS last night that if her knew what we know he would never have gone near her and will distance himself from her when he is out ..

[Kizzy]

I don't think he will... He's seen her react and he's also seen her be very vulnerable, I know the popular tack is to dehumanise helen but he likes her warts and all it seems.

[reece(:]

He'd be invisible

[Drew.]

He'd be much better, he's been great at times already, but he's much better & more entertaining with other housemates than he is with her.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Drew.

He's be much better, he's been great at times already, but he's much better & more entertaining with other housemates than he is with her.

I agree with that, he is one of the few housemates that want to have fin in there, the same as Winston and Marlon.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Josy

I agree with that, he is one of the few housemates that want to have fin in there, the same as Winston and Marlon.

He's very selective in who he associates with though unlike winston and marlon, he actively discouraged mixing with the 'dry heads' and likes to call jale names.
Like it or not josy he gets on with helen as they're very much alike.

[rionablue]

Nope. he is a complete knob and thinks he is sooo popular with everyone specially the general public cos of his looks. Hopefully that smug smile will run off his face tonight quicker than lightening

[GypsyGoth]

I'm not sure Helen is to blame, when he was with Marlon he was pretty crude when they were talking about the female housemates. When Jale gave her reasons for nomming him in the footage they watched, he called her a maggot. Again nothing to do with Helen.

Also when Helen was calling Jale a slug, he was laughing, not telling her to stop. So if anything, he has been a bad influence on Helen