[jet]

Lets face it. There is no defense for Helen's behaviour. But if you want to defend Helen, then a scapegoat must be found....and that scapegoat is Ashleigh. That is the continuing and shameful theme here this series.

[Kizzy]

That's an odd way of looking at things... If helen does something bad it automatically vindicates ashleigh and her bad behaviour

[jet]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

That's an odd way of looking at things... If helen does something bad it automatically vindicates ashleigh and her bad behaviour

And you've just proved my point. What Ashleigh does is separate from what Helen does, but once again you bring up Ashleigh to divert the subject away from Helen.

[bots]

For Ashleigh to be a scapegoat she would need to suffer from Helen's warning through no fault of her own.

BB has not taken any action as a result of Helen's warning on Ashleigh, therefore she is not a scapegoat

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by jet

Lets face it. There is no defense for Helen's behaviour. But if you want to defend Helen, then a scapegoat must be found....and that scapegoat is Ashleigh. That is the continuing and shameful theme here this series.

You brought her up
It's not separate, just different they are both quite manipulative and aggressive, but popular at the same time. I don't dislike either of them.

[Achilles]

Helen is an escaped goat, Mark an escaped gremlin, Ash and Winston escaped neanderthals

[the truth]

cant wait for it all to end....very dislikeable tedious lot this year and thats just the producers