[Miche30584]

I've been coming on the forum since this series of bb has started . I've enjoyed looking through people opinions on the hm.

I've come to the point where I need to vent !!!!!!! So I've decided to join and do just that.
What's got me to this point? Tonight's show , where Helen just blatantly lies and fabricates everything , in regards to the conversation where she " walked " in at that moment" BS !!!! You didn't walk in at that moment love , you purposely/sneakily walked into the toilet to listen to a conversation that you wasn't invited too?
What about how she talks in regards to Ashleigh ? Smashing her head in because of what she "heard" absolutely disgraceful !!!
This woman (Helen) has a son , what a great role model ! To go around threatening to smash a young girls head in and also call her a C....I can't stand her double standards either . The woman is vile.

I can't stand Helen !!!!!!!! How I would wish to be in that house and put her in her place.

Rant over

[Denver]

Im sure ashliegh was lieing to her face as she did mention her having a million chances

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by adamski94

Im sure ashliegh was lieing to her face as she did mention her having a million chances

The truth

[Achilles]

Originally Posted by adamski94

Im sure ashliegh was lieing to her face as she did mention her having a million chances

Show me because I missed that part. Ashleigh said to Chris that he had been talking passionately about Helen for 45 minutes.

[Ammi]

..it's funny how we all see things differently and yet 'see the same thing'...I don't see Helen as being loyal to her 'friends at all...what I see is someone who controls..a real life 'Power' person and so long as the people around her fall inline, agree with her, cheer her and basically never question or criticise her then she will defend them..'protect' them but they would feel her wrath in a split second if they ever dared to question her behaviour...that's not friendship, that's control..and the cool gang have on the whole been happy to be controlled because then they haven't had to put themselves in the firing line so much and had to be so vocal ..Ash has gone through the whole series under the shadow of Helen...and she's been happy to have taken that control also because with her immunity, neither has she ever really been in the firing line until now, when she's facing 'her public' ....how easy it's ben for her to have been 'the entertainment' of the series...and even then, she hasn't really been...she's dragged it down imo....

[Miche30584]

I don't think she denied that tho , she was actually trying to explain but Helen kept cutting in with what she supposedly heard! Either way , I much prefer Ashleigh's character and comportment !

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Miche30584

I don't think she denied that tho , she was actually trying to explain but Helen kept cutting in with what she supposedly heard! Either way , I much prefer Ashleigh's character and comportment !

She said those words never came out my mouth

[Creggle]

Originally Posted by adamski94

She said those words never came out my mouth

She never said Helen had a million chances, her exact words were...

'She'd make our lives miserable at school, there were plenty of girls like her for me and I'd give them a second chance, a third chance, a tenth chance, a thousand chances and each time they'd make my life miserable'

That's nothing to do with her and Helen's relationship in the house, she was simply explaining to Chris her school life. Helen took with it and ran like a dog with a bone. Twisting the entire conversation between them to suit her goals, and to look like the victim, and it backfired with the public, hugely.

When 'confronted' Helen said that Ashleigh remarked that she'd given Helen a million and one chances to change and she hadn't, which is far from what Ashleigh said and never came out of her mouth.




I do feel sorry for Helen though, she is very soft and vulnerable, and for whatever reason (most likely her past) she can't handle the fact that she is, and has to put up a huge barrier of nastiness to protect herself from getting hurt. The ironic part is that her being like that is the exact reason as to why she gets hurt at the smallest things!

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Craigy_CraigO

She never said Helen had a million chances, her exact words were...

'She'd make our lives miserable at school, there were plenty of girls like her for me and I'd give them a second chance, a third chance, a tenth chance, a thousand chances and each time they'd make my life miserable'

"She would've ****ing destroyed my life at school"

"I've spent my whole secondary school giving people like her second, third, hundred, thousand chances..."

"If I didn't like her, I wouldn't have given her these chances the last few weeks"

Whether she said a "million chances" specifically or not, the sentiment is the same but paraphrased.

[Miche30584]

Well I did say I don't think she said that and even if she did , let's be real , it's not that bad a comment and it's probably true .

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Miche30584

Well I did say I don't think she said that and even if she did , let's be real , it's not that bad a comment and it's probably true .

They slagged her off then didnt have the balls to admit it when they got busted

[RodHull]

Originally Posted by Miche30584

Well I did say I don't think she said that and even if she did , let's be real , it's not that bad a comment and it's probably true .

The whole thing was a lot worse than that. I dont think it was even what was said that annoyed Helen but the fact that for weeks now to her face they both climb up her arse then behind closed doors are clearly slagging her off.

Yes arguably there were some back handed compliments in there but they were very backhanded. And she didnt sneak deliberately she came in that way innocently and overheard Chris saying 'Oh yes Helens and absolute ****ing nightmare'

I would have listened as well. Ashleigh and Chris have not been honest about their feelings toward her and the others from day 1 so dont try to pull they poor innocents argument they are as dirty and corrupt as the rest of them.

[Miche30584]

Originally Posted by RodHull

The whole thing was a lot worse than that. I dont think it was even what was said that annoyed Helen but the fact that for weeks now to her face they both climb up her arse then behind closed doors are clearly slagging her off.

Yes arguably there were some back handed compliments in there but they were very backhanded. And she didnt sneak deliberately she came in that way innocently and overheard Chris saying 'Oh yes Helens and absolute ****ing nightmare'

I would have listened as well. Ashleigh and Chris have not been honest about their feelings toward her and the others from day 1 so dont try to pull they poor innocents argument they are as dirty and corrupt as the rest of them.

Who's making a poor innocent argument ?? I haven't made any indication that they are poor innocent people.

And yes , she did purposely go to listen. If you look back , you will clearly see that she was in mid convo with ash stood still. She started walking to the toilet to hear the conversation , when she did ash said something like "what you doing" and Helen says shhh.

[RodHull]

Originally Posted by Miche30584

And yes , she did purposely go to listen. If you look back , you will clearly see that she was in mid convo with ash stood still. She started walking to the toilet to hear the conversation , when she did ash said something like "what you doing" and Helen says shhh.

She was going to the toilet i believe then overheard them and decided to listen (I would have to)

How could she have purposely gone to listen how would she have known they were talking about her (considering they spend 90% of their time talking alone)

[Miche30584]

Originally Posted by RodHull

She was going to the toilet i believe then overheard them and decided to listen (I would have to)

How could she have purposely gone to listen how would she have known they were talking about her (considering they spend 90% of their time talking alone)

Are you serious ?? I just watched the clip back . She was on the floor speaking with ash. The way her head moves indicates to me , that she either heard her name or heard something of interested . To say she was going to the toilet is laughable . She blatantly tells ash shh, she has her fingers against her lips .

[sungrass]

Originally Posted by RodHull

The whole thing was a lot worse than that. I dont think it was even what was said that annoyed Helen but the fact that for weeks now to her face they both climb up her arse then behind closed doors are clearly slagging her off.

Yes arguably there were some back handed compliments in there but they were very backhanded. And she didnt sneak deliberately she came in that way innocently and overheard Chris saying 'Oh yes Helens and absolute ****ing nightmare'

I would have listened as well. Ashleigh and Chris have not been honest about their feelings toward her and the others from day 1 so dont try to pull they poor innocents argument they are as dirty and corrupt as the rest of them.

The whole video might be on youtube so you could check it out - Helen first heard them talking as Chris was saying really positive things about her, that she was beautiful that he hopes the change is real because it would be amazing. They said "she would have been a nightmare for us at school" and that was it. Its true - at school she would be a nightmare for those two. A classic bully.

Helen really took it over board. I think she wanted her groupies attention.

I like Helen - But she twists everything and is SUPER paranoid. I think she was raised in care. That's no excuse but its worth knowing. She didn't have the education Chris has had or the family support Ashleigh has

I respected her for not taking the money tonight.

I have no idea who my winner is right now.
Tonight really changed everything for me personally.

[Miche30584]

Originally Posted by sungrass

The whole video might be on youtube so you could check it out - Helen first heard them talking as Chris was saying really positive things about her, that she was beautiful that he hopes the change is real because it would be amazing. They said "she would have been a nightmare for us at school" and that was it. Its true - at school she would be a nightmare for those two. A classic bully.

Helen really took it over board. I think she wanted her groupies attention.

I like Helen - But she twists everything and is SUPER paranoid. I think she was raised in care. That's no excuse but its worth knowing. She didn't have the education Chris has had or the family support Ashleigh has

I respected her for not taking the money tonight.

I have no idea who my winner is right now.
Tonight really changed everything for me personally.

Thank you!

And those things you said about her are the same for me but I am nothing like how she is !

[Marsh.]

She went into the toilet and then heard them talking about her. Everything she relayed to them we heard them say yesterday.

[Miche30584]

Yeah but that's what you do ?? Isn't it ? Talk about the people in the house ? For them it's their world/bubble ATM , obviously they are going to talk about each other it's really the only thing to do. . I don't think they were slagging her per say , compared to, let's say , 4 weeks ago. I think Ashleigh had more harsh words to say about Helen .

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Miche30584

Yeah but that's what you do ?? Isn't it ? Talk about the people in the house ? For them it's their world/bubble ATM , obviously they are going to talk about each other it's really the only thing to do. . I don't think they were slagging her per say , compared to, let's say , 4 weeks ago. I think Ashleigh had more harsh words to say about Helen .

You said in the OP that she'd "fabricated" though. She hadn't.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Miche30584

Yeah but that's what you do ?? Isn't it ? Talk about the people in the house ? For them it's their world/bubble ATM , obviously they are going to talk about each other it's really the only thing to do. . I don't think they were slagging her per say , compared to, let's say , 4 weeks ago. I think Ashleigh had more harsh words to say about Helen .

So its normal to slag someone off but when they challenge you on it say you didnt say it then call them a lier?

[LukeB]

can anyone?

[Miche30584]

She did fabricate it ?? She said what she thought she heard in a manor to suit her argument ? She didn't hear the whole conversation first, she heard only bad things and rolled with it ! Then went in to the bathroom and told ash what she heard but not in the way it was exactly said .

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Miche30584

She did fabricate it ?? She said what she thought she heard in a manor to suit her argument ? She didn't hear the whole conversation first, she heard only bad things and rolled with it ! Then went in to the bathroom and told ash what she heard but not in the way it was exactly said .

She quoted what they said. She misinterpreted the meaning a couple of times but Ashleigh flat out denied saying it, when we saw that she did.

[Miche30584]

Not at all .both sides need to be honest . Helens making out she was accidentally walking past when she wasn't ??? I just don't like her approach to things and the way she goes about it .