[Josy]

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[the truth]

notice how the vile shallow bully brad pitt of twatness soon ran away when audley started defending gary against james vile bullying and lies.....the people voting fo rjames must be deranged

[abhorson]

I thought he was starting to be OK. But at then end of the show had a dig at Gary and Audley again.

Spots have not changed.

[jaxie]

Gah this man! Who votes for him?! Just saw a clip I can't link on my tablet but James says Ricci is a nice guy and Gary says yes he has gone now and James says I'd rather you would have gone and walks off calling Gary rude.

[rusticgal]

The guy is an utter wanker...

The bores went tonight...now let's see James go out to massive boos...we have all seen he is not a good judge of character.

Gary or Audley to win...but Gary should take the crown. The rest can bog off.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

The guy is an utter wanker...

The bores went tonight...now let's see James go out to massive boos...we have all seen he is not a good judge of character.

Gary or Audley to win...but Gary should take the crown. The rest can bog off.

agreed. this lot of scumbags are the worst housemates ive ever seen. without gary i wouldnt have given this show 2 minutes of my precious time. its embarassing this legend has to even live in a building with such evil bullying shallow vein petty loathsome scum

[jet]

Originally Posted by jaxie

Gah this man! Who votes for him?! Just saw a clip I can't link on my tablet but James says Ricci is a nice guy and Gary says yes he has gone now and James says I'd rather you would have gone and walks off calling Gary rude.

No, James has lost someone he liked, and said to Gary Ricci was a nice guy, and Gary says he was boring and he is gone now. Not one ounce of understanding there.

Let's flip it. Say it was Gary who had lost someone he liked and said to James 'he was a nice guy' and James says' he was boring' and 'he's gone now' showing no sympathy at all. And Gary had said 'I wish you had gone' and walked off. This thread wouldn't be about how awful Gary was to do that but still about how brilliant Gary was to say that to James and it would be all That's why I hardly post here anymore. It's just ridiculous - and I like both James and Gary but can see when both of them are right or wrong.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by jet

No, James has lost someone he liked, and said to Gary Ricci was a nice guy, and Gary says he was boring and he is gone now. Not one ounce of understanding there.

Let's flip it. Say it was Gary who had lost someone he liked and said to James 'he was a nice guy' and James says' he was boring' and 'he's gone now' showing no sympathy at all. And Gary had said 'I wish you had gone' and walked off. This thread wouldn't be about how awful Gary was to do that but still about how brilliant Gary was to say that to James and it would be all That's why I hardly post here anymore. It's just ridiculous - and I like both James and Gary but can see when both of them are right or wrong.

thats exactly what DID happen when frenchy left? james celebrated

[Josy]

Originally Posted by jet

No, James has lost someone he liked, and said to Gary Ricci was a nice guy, and Gary says he was boring and he is gone now. Not one ounce of understanding there.

Let's flip it. Say it was Gary who had lost someone he liked and said to James 'he was a nice guy' and James says' he was boring' and 'he's gone now' showing no sympathy at all. And Gary had said 'I wish you had gone' and walked off. This thread wouldn't be about how awful Gary was to do that but still about how brilliant Gary was to say that to James and it would be all That's why I hardly post here anymore. It's just ridiculous - and I like both James and Gary but can see when both of them are right or wrong.

Gary never said he was boring as his opinion jet he said he was voted the most boring in todays task by the public

[jet]

Originally Posted by Josy

Gary never said he was boring as his opinion jet he said he was voted the most boring in todays task by the public

Yes, I watched it back. Does it make a difference though? He was still lacking in understanding and sensitivity and it would have been nice to see him sympathizing with James about Ricci going. Not that James has much sensitivity, but I can see that Gary isn't great in that department either whereas quite a lot here can't or won't admit it.
Gary is a great HM, but his 'goodness' is highly over rated. I have yet to see him do a practical kindness for anyone in the house. He talks about 'love and understanding' but talk is cheap.

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by jet

Yes, I watched it back. Does it make a difference though? He was still lacking in understanding and sensitivity and it would have been nice to see him sympathizing with James about Ricci going. Not that James has much sensitivity, but I can see that Gary isn't great in that department either whereas quite a lot here can't or won't admit it.
Gary is a great HM, but his 'goodness' is highly over rated. I have yet to see him do a practical kindness for anyone in the house. He talks about 'love and understanding' but talk is cheap.

On the other hand perhaps he was trying to strike up a conversation re the task? James is far to busy though now trying to get in between George and Edelle. He has to be part of the limelight.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by jet

Yes, I watched it back. Does it make a difference though? He was still lacking in understanding and sensitivity and it would have been nice to see him sympathizing with James about Ricci going. Not that James has much sensitivity, but I can see that Gary isn't great in that department either whereas quite a lot here can't or won't admit it.
Gary is a great HM, but his 'goodness' is highly over rated. I have yet to see him do a practical kindness for anyone in the house. He talks about 'love and understanding' but talk is cheap.

Why would he sympathise and lament over someone who called him disgusting, took cheap shots about his family and called him a poor role model. Or more importantly, why should he?

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by jet

No, James has lost someone he liked, and said to Gary Ricci was a nice guy, and Gary says he was boring and he is gone now. Not one ounce of understanding there.

Let's flip it. Say it was Gary who had lost someone he liked and said to James 'he was a nice guy' and James says' he was boring' and 'he's gone now' showing no sympathy at all. And Gary had said 'I wish you had gone' and walked off. This thread wouldn't be about how awful Gary was to do that but still about how brilliant Gary was to say that to James and it would be all That's why I hardly post here anymore. It's just ridiculous - and I like both James and Gary but can see when both of them are right or wrong.

Didnt he just say that he was voted boring as in the task of today? he then inferred that it was in the past. Cant look again it is to late but nothing was meant by the remark. Actually I would have liked James to go and not Lauren but there we are that is in the past as well. Time for bed Tbh at this late stage in the game and knowing what Gary has had to put up with from James, I dont really blame him for putting his view forward but there we are James had to make a fuss, with anyone else he would have debated it.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Jules2

Didnt he just say that he was voted boring as in the task of today? he then inferred that it was in the past. Cant look again it is to late but nothing was meant by the remark. Actually I would have liked James to go and not Lauren but there we are that is in the past as well. Time for bed Tbh at this late stage in the game and knowing what Gary has had to put up with from James, I dont really blame him for putting his view forward but there we are James had to make a fuss, with anyone else he would have debated it.

Why do people avoid answering the point of my post re the situation being reversed?

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by jet

No, James has lost someone he liked, and said to Gary Ricci was a nice guy, and Gary says he was boring and he is gone now. Not one ounce of understanding there.

Let's flip it. Say it was Gary who had lost someone he liked and said to James 'he was a nice guy' and James says' he was boring' and 'he's gone now' showing no sympathy at all. And Gary had said 'I wish you had gone' and walked off. This thread wouldn't be about how awful Gary was to do that but still about how brilliant Gary was to say that to James and it would be all That's why I hardly post here anymore. It's just ridiculous - and I like both James and Gary but can see when both of them are right or wrong.

..my take on it all, which could be completely wrong but it's just how I see it..?..of course it was tactless/ill-timed of Gary, I don't think it's so much that he doesn't have an understanding though..I think it's just that he's always seen it as a game so doesn't really understand their relationships/friendships being so 'intense', you know..?..and that hasn't been helped that he hasn't been tolerated or included so much but in a way maybe has helped in keeping a 'distant objectivity..'..?..I think Gary is interested in people and understands people/'wishes them well in life etc... it's just that I think that's as far as it goes in the house with him and I agree with that I think...I never really understand why housemates feel 'loyalties' like this was real life and these were 'real friends' ... and I'm so often dubious of these 'bonds' they form, they're often more 'alliances' really...so yeah, I think it was ill-timed etc but I also think that James' comment of he wishes it had been Gary wasn't the best either... I also don't think he was being genuine if Im honest and there again, it's just a feeling that what he really was thinking..(especially after the boos..)...is YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY, it wasn't me, I'm still here but I'll say all the right things about Ricci and then it'll 'look good' if I pick up on what Gary says...actually, I don't think he cares about 'looking good'..(so I'll scrub that bit....)..I think the reason he picked up on it is because despite the boos etc, he's still there so has kind of figured that the awkward/confrontational James is 'working' so I think also with him, his reaction wasn't great because he's now 'hamming up' the 'bad guy' ...I think James is the sort of person/character that would want to be loved or hated but never ever ever be 'invisible' or thought of as boring....he's still pompous and arrogant though.....but both playing their game there ..and James' game is to keep picking at Gary I think...it was quite telling later when he said something like...'and James needs armed guards on his eviction..'...?...something like that..?..he's going all out for this 'baddie' now and actually credit to him, I think he was probably quite stunned to be booed etc originally and he's decided to make it all work for him if he can...more interviews etc for the bad..?......hmmmm interesting..just my thoughts anyway...

[HBB1508]

Originally Posted by jet

No, James has lost someone he liked, and said to Gary Ricci was a nice guy, and Gary says he was boring and he is gone now. Not one ounce of understanding there.

Let's flip it. Say it was Gary who had lost someone he liked and said to James 'he was a nice guy' and James says' he was boring' and 'he's gone now' showing no sympathy at all. And Gary had said 'I wish you had gone' and walked off. This thread wouldn't be about how awful Gary was to do that but still about how brilliant Gary was to say that to James and it would be all That's why I hardly post here anymore. It's just ridiculous - and I like both James and Gary but can see when both of them are right or wrong.

I'm totally with you there Jet - I don't bother coming on here too much now as you just get insulted if you are anything but a Gary fan sadly - life is too short!!

[delta]

Originally Posted by HBB1508

I'm totally with you there Jet - I don't bother coming on here too much now as you just get insulted if you are anything but a Gary fan sadly - life is too short!!

My goodness, that's like admonishing a child when the parent hits it, telling them you made me do it because you were bad.


In other words, one should know better the other for all sorts of reasons doesn't.

It's not a level playing field. One is a by- product of the other. James is a pr!ck of a human being, he's been kicked off Strictly for being unruly, surly and disruptive. So he has form.

Gary has alsorts of problems you cannot deny and they are well documented, there doesn't seem to be an ounce of allowance or slack for what you are stating as Gary's so called meanness and rudeness.

1) He's old
2) He's got two hearing aids
3) He's got numerous physical ailments.
3) He's had head trauma
4) He's probably had a slight personality change.
5) He will have good days and bad, where he's feeling up and then down.
6) He's set in his ways perhaps more so because of his injury

Holding your hand up and saying Shush isn't especially rude coming from an old person with all the above complaints imo. What is so fcukign rude and calculated is the systematic and constant erosion of this mans 'self' by fit and healthy people that should know better. Anyone that doesn't feel excruciating uncomfortable watching what is taking place really needs to take a long hard look at themselves and to re-evaluate their morals and ask them what sort of society do we want to live in.

You saw last night how dejected and pi55ed off with it all Gary was- I just hope he bounces back from it.


I just hope the public do the right thing and recompense ( small mercies) for his 4 weeks of humiliation and ostracisation by this group of self absorbed nobodies.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by delta

My goodness, that's like admonishing a child when the parent hits it, telling them you made me do it because you were bad.


In other words, one should know better the other for all sorts of reasons doesn't.

It's not a level playing field. One is a by- product of the other. James is a pr!ck of a human being, he's been kicked off Strictly for being unruly, surly and disruptive. So he has form.

Gary has alsorts of problems you cannot deny and they are well documented, there doesn't seem to be an ounce of allowance or slack for what you are stating as Gary's so called meanness and rudeness.

1) He's old
2) He's got two hearing aids
3) He's got numerous physical ailments.
3) He's had head trauma
4) He's probably had a slight personality change.
5) He will have good days and bad, where he's feeling up and then down.
6) He's set in his ways perhaps more so because of his injury

Holding your hand up and saying Shush isn't especially rude coming from an old person with all the above complaints imo. What is so fcukign rude and calculated is the systematic and constant erosion of this mans 'self' by fit and healthy people that should know better. Anyone that doesn't feel excruciating uncomfortable watching what is taking place really needs to take a long hard look at themselves and to re-evaluate their morals and ask them what sort of society do we want to live in.

You saw last night how dejected and pi55ed off with it all Gary was- I just hope he bounces back from it.


I just hope the public do the right thing and recompense ( small mercies) for his 4 weeks of humiliation and ostracisation by this group of self absorbed nobodies.

TOTALLY BRILLIANTLY PUT. cheer2:

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by delta

My goodness, that's like admonishing a child when the parent hits it, telling them you made me do it because you were bad.


In other words, one should know better the other for all sorts of reasons doesn't.

It's not a level playing field. One is a by- product of the other. James is a pr!ck of a human being, he's been kicked off Strictly for being unruly, surly and disruptive. So he has form.

Gary has alsorts of problems you cannot deny and they are well documented, there doesn't seem to be an ounce of allowance or slack for what you are stating as Gary's so called meanness and rudeness.

1) He's old
2) He's got two hearing aids
3) He's got numerous physical ailments.
3) He's had head trauma
4) He's probably had a slight personality change.
5) He will have good days and bad, where he's feeling up and then down.
6) He's set in his ways perhaps more so because of his injury

Holding your hand up and saying Shush isn't especially rude coming from an old person with all the above complaints imo. What is so fcukign rude and calculated is the systematic and constant erosion of this mans 'self' by fit and healthy people that should know better. Anyone that doesn't feel excruciating uncomfortable watching what is taking place really needs to take a long hard look at themselves and to re-evaluate their morals and ask them what sort of society do we want to live in.

You saw last night how dejected and pi55ed off with it all Gary was- I just hope he bounces back from it.


I just hope the public do the right thing and recompense ( small mercies) for his 4 weeks of humiliation and ostracisation by this group of self absorbed nobodies.

Excellently put.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by HBB1508

I'm totally with you there Jet - I don't bother coming on here too much now as you just get insulted if you are anything but a Gary fan sadly - life is too short!!

sorry to hear that Lynne (from a Gary fan). As you say life is too short to be insulted over a TV programme, some people get carried away

[rusticgal]

James cannot handle it when his friends go can he...the shallow minded twat thinks Ricci should have stayed cos he is 'good looking'... FFS we want personality which Ricci did not have.
He can't help having a dig at Gary...Gary speaks the truth...Ricci=Boring

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

James cannot handle it when his friends go can he...the shallow minded twat thinks Ricci should have stayed cos he is 'good looking'... FFS we want personality which Ricci did not have.
He can't help having a dig at Gary...Gary speaks the truth...Ricci=Boring

The sad thing is as Edelle said Gary is easy pickings. I wonder if she will ever regret saying that when she sees the things which have been said in there.

[Vanessa]

I don't think we've has someone on the show as evil as James. He's like Darth Veder and Gary is Obi One Kenobi!

[abhorson]

Ah, it is not in this video where Jame's mentioned the Gary contract dig and the Audley dig.

[jaxie]

Oh snap. I just saw that. Wtf is that mans problem.