[Beetlejuice]

Just another fascinating thread about sexism.

[Ellen]

Originally Posted by Beetlejuice

Just another fascinating thread about sexism.

Its the easy option.

[sosadbbend]

Originally Posted by Beetlejuice

Just another fascinating thread about sexism.

I don't like either of them but I can see this happening.

[rusticgal]

Helens Helen...just vile.
Marc can be vile but with him it's more banter...he also listens when he upsets people. Very different to Helen.
Marc's banter seemed to disappear when he went into the bunker...he just became plain nasty. I suspect Helen was an influence to some extent...but Marc should have retained his 'fair play'....it's gone against him. People haven't liked this Marc.
With the ex housemates going soon...he will be on his own bar Simon and Joel. However I think he will back track and try to get his mates back onside. But I don't they will fall for it.
Marc's possibly shot himself in the foot....he could have won.

[Griffin5779]

Don't like Helen..Love Marc....

But what exactly are you trying to Blame on Marc...He sure isn't blame for Helen being a bitch as she was that way before him.

I don't know what you could be referring to aside the Chloe nomination that Brain blew up over...I don't consider that Helens or Marcs fault.

Please let me know what you are talking about so i can decide

[Beetlejuice]

Originally Posted by Griffin5779

Don't like Helen..Love Marc....

But what exactly are you trying to Blame on Marc...He sure isn't blame for Helen being a bitch as she was that way before him.

Helen is being blamed for the bad treatment and isolation of Harry. The truth is Marc has been much nastier towards her than Helen has ever been. And long before Helen ever entered the house.

People only seemed to care about Harry when Helen was gunning for her. When Marc was, and saying some deeply unpleasant things about her, the sun shone out of his arse.

[Griffin5779]

Originally Posted by Beetlejuice

Helen is being blamed for the bad treatment and isolation of Harry. The truth is Marc has been much nastier towards her than Helen has ever been. And long before Helen ever entered the house.

People only seemed to care about Harry when Helen was gunning for her. When Marc was, and saying some deeply unpleasant things about her, the sun shone out of his arse.

Oh that line...Harry has isolated herself. I have seen several people try to snap her out of it..she just acts like a 5 year old holding her breath...she has no interest in trying to get along with Marc..or Just avoiding and getting on with her "experience" and I can't recall Marc saying anything to her or about since they re entered the house. She just started being pissy when nominated...and not just towards Marc but the other bunker mates as well proclaiming it their responsibility to come to her...as if

She must have some pretty serious metal Problems to act that way especially when she knows she is on national telly.

The only one who needs to be bitched about regarding their behavior toward harry is Nick...5 minutes after she was nominated he had left her alone and was off hugging the woman who had siad such nasty stuff about her..including that harry was using nick

[the_answers]

Originally Posted by Beetlejuice

Helen is being blamed for the bad treatment and isolation of Harry.

Are you sure ?

What about all the Harry confides in Helen vids popping up ?

Harry is team Marc if you ask me.

And that explains the Christian shocker.

[Pete.]

They both deserve to be loathed tbh and the decrease in Marc's popularity is proof of that

[Withano]

Are you saying that Marc will get a bypass from the housemates or the audience?

I don't think the housemates think he's faultless at all. All of them bar Simon dislike him most of the time. If you're saying audience, then, maybe. But only from the very vocal minority AKA Marc fans.

[Beetlejuice]

Originally Posted by Withano

Are you saying that Marc will get a bypass from the housemates or the audience?

I don't think the housemates think he's faultless at all. All of them bar Simon dislike him most of the time. If you're saying audience, then, maybe. But only from the very vocal minority AKA Marc fans.

The audience. If you watch BOTS the narrative is clearly that Marc has been corrupted by Helen. She's to blame for everything. The truth is he was being quite vicious towards Harry before Helen got there.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Beetlejuice

The audience. If you watch BOTS the narrative is clearly that Marc has been corrupted by Helen. She's to blame for everything. The truth is he was being quite vicious towards Harry before Helen got there.

I don't watch BOTS, Rylan exists. But yeah, I agree. Marc fans are clinging on for hope I think.. Pretending he's still a great housemate even though every rational viewer knows that he has been a complete knob nearly all the way through his stay..

Still, the BOTS fans are the diehard fans, and the diehard fans prefer the controversial characters because they're sOOOoooOOooo entertaining, I don't think he's doing as well with the public as you think he is though.

[Beetlejuice]

Originally Posted by Withano

I don't watch BOTS, Rylan exists. But yeah, I agree. Marc fans are clinging on for hope I think.. Pretending he's still a great housemate even though every rational viewer knows that he has been a complete knob nearly all the way through his stay..

Unfortunately they do seem to influence public thinking. When all these people were feeling sorry for Harry, all the blame was put on Helen (and even Nikki). Not a single mention of Marc's treatment of her. Insofar there was any negativity in regards to Marc it was over him being up Helen's arse. Helen is actually to blame for everything.

[EspeonBB]

Yeah I can see this happening once Hellen leaves. The producers will give him a 'redemption arc' and the public will forgive him because he's a man

[jennyfromtheblock8]

Good point