[Denver]

She was the main instigator in breaking down a mentally unwell man aswell as targeting another housemate for smelling of BO not real a great role model no

[Jason.]

You forgot her transphobic comments towards Sam.
And her nastiness towards Aisleyne and Susie.

But having said that. She is nowhere near as vitriolic and aggressive as Helen.
I think Helen's is far far far far worse.

[Daniel.]

Nikki wasn't the 'main instigator' at all, that was comfortable Richard. Lea, Lisa, Sezer, George all played bigger parts than her too. Laughable

[Jason.]

Originally Posted by Daniel_

Nikki wasn't the 'main instigator' at all, that was comfortable Richard. Lea, Lisa, Sezer, George all played bigger parts than her too. Laughable

I'd agree with this.

Although, I think George played an equal part Nikki played. She said "Take his clothes, it will hurt him more", and he took the clothes.

Other than that, I don't really remember anything else either of them did.

[Jason.]

I think Richard and Sezer were the worst.

With Lea and Lisa following.
But, I think Lisa and Lea were more argumentative towards him. Whereas Richard and Sezer just wanted to isolate him and humiliate him.

[Jason.]

Everyone single housemate who walked out of the living room during the incident was a bully, IMO.

George was thew only one who stayed. But the fool then tarnished it, by locking him in the garden and taking his clothes.

I think they were all bullies, IMO.
Even Pete, who did nothing to stop it.

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by Daniel_

Nikki wasn't the 'main instigator' at all, that was comfortable Richard. Lea, Lisa, Sezer, George all played bigger parts than her too. Laughable

I agree that Nikki wasn't the main instigator, but she still played a part in the bullying, and this is why I can't agree with the adoration of her BB7 stint.

Everyone involved should be equally judged, as opposed to some people having it held against them and others having it swept under the carpet.

[Daniel.]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

I agree that Nikki wasn't the main instigator, but she still played a part in the bullying, and this is why I can't agree with the adoration of her BB7 stint.

I still don't think she's anything near a bully at all, it must be exhausting to live with Shahbaz.

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by Daniel_

I still don't think she's anything near a bully at all, it must be exhausting to live with Shahbaz.

Shahbaz being hard to live with (which I absolutely agree with) doesn't at all excuse the way they reacted, I definitely class her involvement as bullying.

And regardless of how much or little she did herself, the fact that she ran around manically laughing her head off as they taunted him said enough.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Daniel_

Nikki wasn't the 'main instigator' at all, that was comfortable Richard. Lea, Lisa, Sezer, George all played bigger parts than her too. Laughable

Erm..put his clothes in the pool, that will hurt him more. With a manic grin

However this was years back. I did think she had grown up a bit, and I have been liking her. Tonight though, she was the same petulant up herself child that she has always been

[Daniel.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Erm..put his clothes in the pool, that will hurt him more. With a manic grin

However this was years back. I did think she had grown up a bit, and I have been liking her. Tonight though, she was the same petulant up herself child that she has always been

She aid one stupid comment, so what?

[Amy Jade]

[TheElusiveChanteuse]

I think Nikki has learned from her behavior and seems to have grown up a lot. Can't say the same about Helen. If anything she's worse.

[reece(:]

If Nikki is a bully then Helen is a mass murderer.

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by reece(:

If Nikki is a bully then Helen is a mass murderer.

There are different levels of bullying. Helen's is worse absolutely, that doesn't make Nikki's behaviour in BB7 any less warranted of the word.

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

There are different levels of bullying. Helen's is worse absolutely, that doesn't make Nikki's behaviour in BB7 any less warranted of the word.

This is BB16, we're 9 years on so idk why this thread is needed. Everyone did stuff to Shahbaz and as BB was far stricter back then they would have pulled them from the show had it gone too far but they did not as Shahbaz was goading people at times too.

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by reece(:

This is BB16, we're 9 years on so idk why this thread is needed. Everyone did stuff to Shahbaz and as BB was far stricter back then they would have pulled them from the show had it gone too far but they did not as Shahbaz was goading people at times too.

Why does the "9 years later" stuff only come up when people are discussing Nikki's bad moments? People discuss what they like about housemates all the time, and she herself is happy to continue the "Who is she?" thing 9 years later.

If some of their behaviour 9 years ago is relevant for discussion, it's only fair that it all is.

[RichardG]

Originally Posted by reece(:

If Nikki is a bully then Helen is a mass murderer.

you forgot rapist as well

come on you're slacking, tell it like it is

[LukeB]

Nikki wasn't that nice in BB7 but she wasn't that nasty either. Helen is much worse than Nikki tbh.

[Jason.]

Originally Posted by LukeB

Nikki wasn't that nice in BB7 but she wasn't that nasty either. Helen is much worse than Nikki tbh.

Nikki was nasty, in BB7.
She just wasn't Helen level nasty. But to say she wasn't thatt nasty is an understatement.

I watched a lot of LF that year, and the bitching she did about Aisleyne, along with Grace and Mikey when they were in the HND, during the final week wasn't nice at all.

I remember Nikki and Grace poking fun at Aisleyne and Grace telling Nikki if she does go back in to convince Aisleyne to wear her blue eviction dress as it made Aisleyne look like a man, and a slapper, and it would be humiliating for her to walk out of the house looking like that.

That's why Nikki left the house during the final, to a worse reception compared to the winners reception she left the house to five weeks earlier.

She was pretty vitriolic about Aisleyne with Jayne during the week she was evicted too.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by BB6

Nikki was nasty, in BB7.
She just wasn't Helen level nasty. But to say she wasn't thatt nasty is an understatement.

I watched a lot of LF that year, and the bitching she did about Aisleyne, along with Grace and Mikey when they were in the HND, during the final week wasn't nice at all.

I remember Nikki and Grace poking fun at Aisleyne and Grace telling Nikki if she does go back in to convince Aisleyne to wear her blue eviction dress as it made Aisleyne look like a man, and a slapper, and it would be humiliating for her to walk out of the house looking like that.

That's why Nikki left the house during the final, to a worse reception compared to the winners reception she left the house to five weeks earlier.

She was pretty vitriolic about Aisleyne with Jayne during the week she was evicted too.

I said she wasn't that nice in BB7 but she wasn't that nasty as other housemates in her series.

[Jason.]

Originally Posted by LukeB

I said she wasn't that nice in BB7 but she wasn't that nasty as other housemates in her series.

I'd only put Grace, Lisa, Richard, and Sezer above her on the nastiness scale.

But lets be honest though, if Helen said the same things Nikki said. You would call her a vile cretin. js.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by BB6

I'd only put Grace, Lisa, Richard, and Sezer above her on the nastiness scale.

But lets be honest though, if Helen said the same things Nikki said. You would call her a vile cretin. js.

Not really, you can't say that because you don't really know me that well

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by BB6

I'd only put Grace, Lisa, Richard, and Sezer above her on the nastiness scale.

But lets be honest though, if Helen said the same things Nikki said. You would call her a vile cretin. js.

Interestingly, Grace actually felt bad for Shahbaz during the clothes-stealing thing and wanted to get him a towel (while Nikki was having the time of her life), but she's remembered as one of BB's all-time bitches and Nikki is remembered as BB's princess.

I'm not saying Nikki is worse than Grace or evil incarnate or anything like that before someone jumps on that, just that there are little moments like that which put these housemates more into shades of grey rather than the stereotypical ways they've been remembered throughout the years.

[EspeonBB]

Yeah there were moments in BB7 where Nikki was nasty (her treatment of Shahbaz, her transphobia towards Sam) but she also had sweet moments where she showed compassion unlike Helen.

Plus I think Nikki has grown a lot since BB7, unlike Helen who hasn't changed at all (and may have actually gotten worse)