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arista · 18-03-2016, 08:03 PM

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http://news.sky.com/story/1662752/ia...isability-cuts

bitontheslide · 18-03-2016, 08:19 PM

about ****ing time too .... whoooooopieeeeeee

Isn't it amazing that he resigns because he thinks the cuts are too harsh

Amy Jade · 18-03-2016, 08:21 PM

Glad he's gone the pompous scrounging prick

Johnnyuk123 · 18-03-2016, 08:22 PM

I'm sure he doesn't need the money. A great guy. Good luck for the future Ian.

Black Dagger · 18-03-2016, 09:56 PM

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I'm sure he doesn't need the money. A great guy. Good luck for the future Ian.

parmnion · 22-03-2016, 08:41 PM

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I'm sure he doesn't need the money. A great guy. Good luck for the future Ian.

named and suspected pedo, hope he gets whats coming to him.

joeysteele · 18-03-2016, 08:27 PM

Absolutely good riddance, no doubt he will now try to distance himself from some of the most heartless action ever by a Work and Pensions Minister.

If there hadn't been this outcry as to the latest proposed cuts which he was happy to be standing by until the outcry.
he would have likely hung on like crazy to his post.

However, now he is even more free to make trouble for Cameron from the backbenches and somehow I have a feeling he will de doing so.
Really though, good riddance to one of the biggest waste of spaces ever in any govt.

_Tom_ · 18-03-2016, 08:34 PM

Anyone who thinks Iain Duncan Smith has resigned because of disability benefits is living on another planet.

DemolitionRed · 18-03-2016, 08:44 PM

IDS was just Osborne's messenger boy. What ever made him quit, I respect him for saying Osborne was pushing a step too far.

I'm not sure why people think IDS was doing a great job trying to cut benefits on to the disabled.

Toy Soldier · 18-03-2016, 08:56 PM

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IDS was just Osborne's messenger boy. What ever made him quit, I respect him for saying Osborne was pushing a step too far.

Indeed. I don't believe for a second that IDS is taking some sort of moral stand here because he feels like the cuts are actually too harsh, I don't believe he cares about that, however, I also don't believe that many (if any) of what has been put in place has come from him in the first place... he's always just been middle management, passing down exactly what he's been told to pass down. I think this is more a case of him not wanting to take the considerable flak for this latest round. They almost certainly are Osbourne's doing. IDS is basically saying "The heat coming at me for this is too much to take the fall for it this time" - a sentiment which will be fuelled by feeling like he's on a different "team" now in many ways, with all of the EU stuff...

...I am pretty surprised that he went so far as to admit that huge amounts of these cuts are to make a political point rather than having anything to do with the economy, though. From such a high profile public figure as IDS, that is an absolutely massive kick in the balls for the current government.

Northern Monkey · 18-03-2016, 09:03 PM

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Indeed. I don't believe for a second that IDS is taking some sort of moral stand here because he feels like the cuts are actually too harsh, I don't believe he cares about that, however, I also don't believe that many (if any) of what has been put in place has come from him in the first place... he's always just been middle management, passing down exactly what he's been told to pass down. I think this is more a case of him not wanting to take the considerable flak for this latest round. They almost certainly are Osbourne's doing. IDS is basically saying "The heat coming at me for this is too much to take the fall for it this time" - a sentiment which will be fuelled by feeling like he's on a different "team" now in many ways, with all of the EU stuff...

...I am pretty surprised that he went so far as to admit that huge amounts of these cuts are to make a political point rather than having anything to do with the economy, though. From such a high profile public figure as IDS, that is an absolutely massive kick in the balls for the current government.

Interesting post.

GiRTh · 18-03-2016, 10:00 PM

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Indeed. I don't believe for a second that IDS is taking some sort of moral stand here because he feels like the cuts are actually too harsh, I don't believe he cares about that, however, I also don't believe that many (if any) of what has been put in place has come from him in the first place... he's always just been middle management, passing down exactly what he's been told to pass down. I think this is more a case of him not wanting to take the considerable flak for this latest round. They almost certainly are Osbourne's doing. IDS is basically saying "The heat coming at me for this is too much to take the fall for it this time" - a sentiment which will be fuelled by feeling like he's on a different "team" now in many ways, with all of the EU stuff...

...I am pretty surprised that he went so far as to admit that huge amounts of these cuts are to make a political point rather than having anything to do with the economy, though. From such a high profile public figure as IDS, that is an absolutely massive kick in the balls for the current government.

joeysteele · 18-03-2016, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Indeed. I don't believe for a second that IDS is taking some sort of moral stand here because he feels like the cuts are actually too harsh, I don't believe he cares about that, however, I also don't believe that many (if any) of what has been put in place has come from him in the first place... he's always just been middle management, passing down exactly what he's been told to pass down. I think this is more a case of him not wanting to take the considerable flak for this latest round. They almost certainly are Osbourne's doing. IDS is basically saying "The heat coming at me for this is too much to take the fall for it this time" - a sentiment which will be fuelled by feeling like he's on a different "team" now in many ways, with all of the EU stuff...

...I am pretty surprised that he went so far as to admit that huge amounts of these cuts are to make a political point rather than having anything to do with the economy, though. From such a high profile public figure as IDS, that is an absolutely massive kick in the balls for the current government.

It was extraordinary but right,at leas his parting shots are better than just about all he has done as a Minister.

DemolitionRed · 18-03-2016, 08:50 PM

Here's his resignation letter in full http://www.itv.com/news/2016-03-18/i...etter-in-full/

DemolitionRed · 18-03-2016, 08:59 PM

It is indeed. I wonder who's going to be picking up the poisoned chalice.

Toy Soldier · 18-03-2016, 09:02 PM

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It is indeed. I wonder who's going to be picking up the poisoned chalice.

Odds of 4/9 on "The reanimated, stuffed corpse of Margaret Thatcher".

...2/1 on "A slightly sad looking, dead-eyed pig, utterly dripping with posh cum"

DemolitionRed · 18-03-2016, 09:39 PM

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Odds of 4/9 on "The reanimated, stuffed corpse of Margaret Thatcher".

...2/1 on "A slightly sad looking, dead-eyed pig, utterly dripping with posh cum"

laughs... your imagination is better than mine

Toy Soldier · 18-03-2016, 09:00 PM

"I hope as the government goes forward you can look again, however, at the balance of the cuts you have insisted upon and wonder if enough has been done to ensure "we are all in this together"." - Jeremy Corbyn. No wait, what?? Iain Duncan Smith...???

I swear I've entered bizarro land

smudgie · 18-03-2016, 09:55 PM

Hmmmmm, One has to wonder if he would have resigned had the PIP fiasco not failed.
Looks more to me like the perfect time for his excuse to fire shots at the opposition in the EU Brexit campaign.
Getting more interesting by the day.

joeysteele · 18-03-2016, 09:55 PM

He is right to have laid blame for such heartless actions at the doors of both the PM and Osborne.
Both have accepted all the cuts that were made,I have always said IDS was only able to make such heartless and in my view, unjust attacks on the sick and disabled because of Osborne and this PM.

This really is a scandal now that should really rock this govt and also, it leaves this PM exposed as either a very weak leader and PM or a truly unjust one.
It leaves Osborne in an even bigger hole than he appeared to have dug for himself already, since now it appears IDS has sent in the mechanical diggers to make that hole a really massive one now.

Northern Monkey · 18-03-2016, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele

He is right to have laid blame for such heartless actions at the doors of both the PM and Osborne.
Both have accepted all the cuts that were made,I have always said IDS was only able to make such heartless and in my view, unjust attacks on the sick and disabled because of Osborne and this PM.

This really is a scandal now that should really rock this govt and also, it leaves this PM exposed as either a very weak leader and PM or a truly unjust one.
It leaves Osborne in an even bigger hole than he appeared to have dug for himself already, since now it appears IDS has sent in the mechanical diggers to make that hole a really massive one now.

So IDS was really just the 'fall guy'?

joeysteele · 19-03-2016, 08:00 AM

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So IDS was really just the 'fall guy'?

Not in my opinion, this may have been a step too far but he allowed it all to go ahead at the budget and I believe it is the really big outcry this time that has made him think his position.

He 'is', in my view, the architect of the previous heartless cuts and new conditions as to criteria for claiming benefits.
I still don't see him as a fall guy, for me he has presided over the most despicable of cutting to the sick and disabled and never wanted to move from work and pensions either, so happy was he then with what he was doing.

However, yes,those things could only be done with the support of the PM and the Chancellor, whose hands in that case are as filthy on these attacks on the sick and disabled just as his are.