[GiRTh]

What do you think?

[armand.kay]

Both of them have been put in a situation that is less than ideal. Don't think either of them is the victim but I do feel more sorry for Charlie.

[GiRTh]

I'm sure I've spotted him looking at the camera a couple of times when she has tried to snuggle up to him. There is something a bit cynical Jason. Few relationships are as one sided as this seems.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

I'm sure I've spotted him looking at the camera a couple of times when she has tried to snuggle up to him. There is something a bit cynical Jason. Few relationships are as one sided as this seems.

Yes he looked straight down the lens a few times last night, I am not buying this at all, he is being paid to be in there to cause drama ( and possibly her as well), he works in the movie business and he is hamming it up. Why did he sit through the lap dance is that not giving her the wrong idea

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Yes he looked straight down the lens a few times last night, I am not buying this at all, he is being paid to be in there to cause drama ( and possibly her as well), he works in the movie business and he is hamming it up. Why did he sit through the lap dance is that not giving her the wrong idea

But how would we know he wasn't looking into a mirror with a camera behind it? you are being very cynical Cherie bon,bon.

[Speedster]

NO!! he's ********** not. He's a grown man who should know how handle himself but because stone age attitudes to women, Charlie is getting the lion's share of the blame. Hmmm where have we see that before I wonder...

[Vicky.]

Yes. he is in a horrible horrible situation. He really can't do right for doing wrong here. His options are

1. Completely **** her off. Come across a douche on TV, risk being hated for not comforting the poor woman who is desperate for his dick.

2. Do what he is doing now, which seems to be ignoring the situation as much as he can and hoping it goes away. Short of her being evicted on friday, this isn't happening

3. Get back together with her on the show, **** her off on the outside. Risk the stories being sold about how he used her and/or has trouble getting shot of her again.

4. Get back together with her on the show, continue the relationship outside despite not wanting to...and go through what he went through the first time. We don't know quite how toxic the relationship was, but its quite easy to guess from the snippets we have

He tried option 5 already by saying they would talk outside but there is no relationship in the house. this was ignored.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Yes. he is in a horrible horrible situation. He really can't do right for doing wrong here. His options are

1. Completely **** her off. Come across a douche on TV, risk being hated for not comforting the poor woman who is desperate for his dick.

2. Do what he is doing now, which seems to be ignoring the situation as much as he can and hoping it goes away. Short of her being evicted on friday, this isn't happening

3. Get back together with her on the show, **** her off on the outside. Risk the stories being sold about how he used her and/or has trouble getting shot of her again.

4. Get back together with her on the show, continue the relationship outside despite not wanting to...and go through what he went through the first time. We don't know quite how toxic the relationship was, but its quite easy to guess from the snippets we have

He tried option 5 already by saying they would talk outside but there is no relationship in the house. this was ignored.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Yes. he is in a horrible horrible situation. He really can't do right for doing wrong here. His options are

1. Completely **** her off. Come across a douche on TV, risk being hated for not comforting the poor woman who is desperate for his dick.

2. Do what he is doing now, which seems to be ignoring the situation as much as he can and hoping it goes away. Short of her being evicted on friday, this isn't happening

3. Get back together with her on the show, **** her off on the outside. Risk the stories being sold about how he used her and/or has trouble getting shot of her again.

4. Get back together with her on the show, continue the relationship outside despite not wanting to...and go through what he went through the first time. We don't know quite how toxic the relationship was, but its quite easy to guess from the snippets we have

He tried option 5 already by saying they would talk outside but there is no relationship in the house. this was ignored.

Basically this.

I do feel for Charlie though, it must be hard for her if she really does want him back so badly.

Jason is the victim though imo because he struggled to break off the relationship, he got on BB as a proper housemate and probably thought that would get him much needed time away from Charlie too them boom, she's there with him in an enclosed environment, needs constant reassurance by the looks of things and I imagine it will ruin his experience in the house.

[kirklancaster]

YES - He is the victim.

No one really knows just WHAT Jason and Charlie's 'relationship' was really like, but from what we do know of their respective pasts and from what we are witnessing on BB - He is the victim.

By her OWN admissions, Charlie Doherty is an ex-stripper who claims that she "loves to be loved" but is a 'serial cheat' who has "been unfaithful in the majority of her past relationships".

By contrast, Jason is a relatively successful business owner and part-time actor and body double, who - despite being a powerfully built physically tough 'hard man' - is, by his own admission, "a softie" whom is regarded by those who know him as; "just a big marshmallow with a pet ****zu."

I believe Charlie to be a 'gold-digger' who - like all such women - has no qualms about 'trading' the only 'asset' which she possesses, her body (nothing to write home about there IMHO) for 'La Dolce Vita' -- courtesy of some gullible guy.

I believe that in Jason, she thought she had hit 'pay dirt' - a relatively well off, stable man who, because of his polite, soft-hearted, and submissive demeanour was malleable and 'putty in her hands'.

I further believe that having hit the 'mother lode' she was paranoid about losing it, and her self-admitted jealousy quickly caused the relationship to become toxic.

She admits that she did not "treat Jason nicely" and to being the reason for the breakdown of their relationship.

I recognise only too well that look of embarrassed sufferance and helplessness which poor Jason wears when hammy actress Charlie is bullying him with her - clearly fake - displays of weeping and wailing heartbreak because it is the same look I once wore.

I was in a very toxic relationship with a beautiful girl who DID love me totally but whose irrational insecurities eventually caused me to end the relationship.

Every time any woman - of any age - even looked at me, or if girls who were my long-standing friends that I had never had any type of intimate relationship with, stopped to say 'Hello', my girlfriend's face would drop and she would start the mother of all arguments.

How I squirmed with embarrassment - just like poor Jason.

It ended up that when I was out with my girlfriend and I spotted any female friends approaching, I would deliberately cross the street or pretend to look in shop windows to avoid any contact and the inevitable rows which followed.

So - yes - in my opinion, Jason is a victim and I will replicate here what I have posted on another thread:

"Charlie - Someone contact the Vatican - URGENTLY - we are all witnessing a true miracle; an hysterically weeping heartbroken woman but NO SIGN OF TEARS.

Poor Jason is too chivalrous and kind to deter her harrassment of him with the degree of nastiness and force which he AND she both know is necessary, and so this poor gentle man squirms with embarrassed acceptance while the hammy actress bullies him.

She is pathetic, and needs to retreat to a quiet corner of the house, adopt the 'Lotus' position and contemplate the words; Dignity and Self-Respect."

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

YES - He is the victim.

No one really knows just WHAT Jason and Charlie's 'relationship' was really like, but from what we do know of their respective pasts and from what we are witnessing on BB - He is the victim.

By her OWN admissions, Charlie Doherty is an ex-stripper who claims that she "loves to be loved" but is a 'serial cheat' who has "been unfaithful in the majority of her past relationships".

By contrast, Jason is a relatively successful business owner and part-time actor and body double, who - despite being a powerfully built physically tough 'hard man' - is, by his own admission, "a softie" whom is regarded by those who know him as; "just a big marshmallow with a pet ****zu."

I believe Charlie to be a 'gold-digger' who - like all such women - has no qualms about 'trading' the only 'asset' which she possesses, her body (nothing to write home about there IMHO) for 'La Dolce Vita' -- courtesy of some gullible guy.

I believe that in Jason, she thought she had hit 'pay dirt' - a relatively well off, stable man who, because of his polite, soft-hearted, and submissive demeanour was malleable and 'putty in her hands'.

I further believe that having hit the 'mother lode' she was paranoid about losing it, and her self-admitted jealousy quickly caused the relationship to become toxic.

She admits that she did not "treat Jason nicely" and to being the reason for the breakdown of their relationship.

I recognise only too well that look of embarrassed sufferance and helplessness which poor Jason wears when hammy actress Charlie is bullying him with her - clearly fake - displays of weeping and wailing heartbreak because it is the same look I once wore.

I was in a very toxic relationship with a beautiful girl who DID love me totally but whose irrational insecurities eventually caused me to end the relationship.

Every time any woman - of any age - even looked at me, or if girls who were my long-standing friends that I had never had any type of intimate relationship with, stopped to say 'Hello', my girlfriend's face would drop and she would start the mother of all arguments.

How I squirmed with embarrassment - just like poor Jason.

It ended up that when I was out with my girlfriend and I spotted any female friends approaching, I would deliberately cross the street or pretend to look in shop windows to avoid any contact and the inevitable rows which followed.

So - yes - in my opinion, Jason is a victim and I will replicate here what I have posted on another thread:

"Charlie - Someone contact the Vatican - URGENTLY - we are all witnessing a true miracle; an hysterically weeping heartbroken woman but NO SIGN OF TEARS.

Poor Jason is too chivalrous and kind to deter her harrassment of him with the degree of nastiness and force which he AND she both know is necessary, and so this poor gentle man squirms with embarrassed acceptance while the hammy actress bullies him.

She is pathetic, and needs to retreat to a quiet corner of the house, adopt the 'Lotus' position and contemplate the words; Dignity and Self-Respect."

Best post this week

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Best post this week

also one of the longest posts this week

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Best post this week

Thank you Sam, coming from one who I regard as THE expert on BB, that is one huge compliment.

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

YES - He is the victim.

No one really knows just WHAT Jason and Charlie's 'relationship' was really like, but from what we do know of their respective pasts and from what we are witnessing on BB - He is the victim.

By her OWN admissions, Charlie Doherty is an ex-stripper who claims that she "loves to be loved" but is a 'serial cheat' who has "been unfaithful in the majority of her past relationships".

By contrast, Jason is a relatively successful business owner and part-time actor and body double, who - despite being a powerfully built physically tough 'hard man' - is, by his own admission, "a softie" whom is regarded by those who know him as; "just a big marshmallow with a pet ****zu."

I believe Charlie to be a 'gold-digger' who - like all such women - has no qualms about 'trading' the only 'asset' which she possesses, her body (nothing to write home about there IMHO) for 'La Dolce Vita' -- courtesy of some gullible guy.

I believe that in Jason, she thought she had hit 'pay dirt' - a relatively well off, stable man who, because of his polite, soft-hearted, and submissive demeanour was malleable and 'putty in her hands'.

I further believe that having hit the 'mother lode' she was paranoid about losing it, and her self-admitted jealousy quickly caused the relationship to become toxic.

She admits that she did not "treat Jason nicely" and to being the reason for the breakdown of their relationship.

I recognise only too well that look of embarrassed sufferance and helplessness which poor Jason wears when hammy actress Charlie is bullying him with her - clearly fake - displays of weeping and wailing heartbreak because it is the same look I once wore.

I was in a very toxic relationship with a beautiful girl who DID love me totally but whose irrational insecurities eventually caused me to end the relationship.

Every time any woman - of any age - even looked at me, or if girls who were my long-standing friends that I had never had any type of intimate relationship with, stopped to say 'Hello', my girlfriend's face would drop and she would start the mother of all arguments.

How I squirmed with embarrassment - just like poor Jason.

It ended up that when I was out with my girlfriend and I spotted any female friends approaching, I would deliberately cross the street or pretend to look in shop windows to avoid any contact and the inevitable rows which followed.

So - yes - in my opinion, Jason is a victim and I will replicate here what I have posted on another thread:

"Charlie - Someone contact the Vatican - URGENTLY - we are all witnessing a true miracle; an hysterically weeping heartbroken woman but NO SIGN OF TEARS.

Poor Jason is too chivalrous and kind to deter her harrassment of him with the degree of nastiness and force which he AND she both know is necessary, and so this poor gentle man squirms with embarrassed acceptance while the hammy actress bullies him.

She is pathetic, and needs to retreat to a quiet corner of the house, adopt the 'Lotus' position and contemplate the words; Dignity and Self-Respect."

We've had hardly any posts on Jason so far, good to have one from someone who's had first hand experience of what Jason's going through. Thanks for being brave enough to share that with us.
Steve.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by hot2go

We've had hardly any posts on Jason so far, good to have one from someone who's had first hand experience of what Jason's going through. Thanks for being brave enough to share that with us.
Steve.

Thanks Hot2Go - I appreciate it.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

YES - He is the victim.

No one really knows just WHAT Jason and Charlie's 'relationship' was really like, but from what we do know of their respective pasts and from what we are witnessing on BB - He is the victim.

By her OWN admissions, Charlie Doherty is an ex-stripper who claims that she "loves to be loved" but is a 'serial cheat' who has "been unfaithful in the majority of her past relationships".

By contrast, Jason is a relatively successful business owner and part-time actor and body double, who - despite being a powerfully built physically tough 'hard man' - is, by his own admission, "a softie" whom is regarded by those who know him as; "just a big marshmallow with a pet ****zu."

I believe Charlie to be a 'gold-digger' who - like all such women - has no qualms about 'trading' the only 'asset' which she possesses, her body (nothing to write home about there IMHO) for 'La Dolce Vita' -- courtesy of some gullible guy.

I believe that in Jason, she thought she had hit 'pay dirt' - a relatively well off, stable man who, because of his polite, soft-hearted, and submissive demeanour was malleable and 'putty in her hands'.

I further believe that having hit the 'mother lode' she was paranoid about losing it, and her self-admitted jealousy quickly caused the relationship to become toxic.

She admits that she did not "treat Jason nicely" and to being the reason for the breakdown of their relationship.

I recognise only too well that look of embarrassed sufferance and helplessness which poor Jason wears when hammy actress Charlie is bullying him with her - clearly fake - displays of weeping and wailing heartbreak because it is the same look I once wore.

I was in a very toxic relationship with a beautiful girl who DID love me totally but whose irrational insecurities eventually caused me to end the relationship.

Every time any woman - of any age - even looked at me, or if girls who were my long-standing friends that I had never had any type of intimate relationship with, stopped to say 'Hello', my girlfriend's face would drop and she would start the mother of all arguments.

How I squirmed with embarrassment - just like poor Jason.

It ended up that when I was out with my girlfriend and I spotted any female friends approaching, I would deliberately cross the street or pretend to look in shop windows to avoid any contact and the inevitable rows which followed.

So - yes - in my opinion, Jason is a victim and I will replicate here what I have posted on another thread:

"Charlie - Someone contact the Vatican - URGENTLY - we are all witnessing a true miracle; an hysterically weeping heartbroken woman but NO SIGN OF TEARS.

Poor Jason is too chivalrous and kind to deter her harrassment of him with the degree of nastiness and force which he AND she both know is necessary, and so this poor gentle man squirms with embarrassed acceptance while the hammy actress bullies him.

She is pathetic, and needs to retreat to a quiet corner of the house, adopt the 'Lotus' position and contemplate the words; Dignity and Self-Respect."

Great post Kirk,said as it is,love reading your stuff.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Great post Kirk,said as it is,love reading your stuff.

Thank you my beautiful blonde.

(I am just so relieved you still love me after my attacks on Dave - I am still all Gerard though. )

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

YES - He is the victim.

No one really knows just WHAT Jason and Charlie's 'relationship' was really like, but from what we do know of their respective pasts and from what we are witnessing on BB - He is the victim.

By her OWN admissions, Charlie Doherty is an ex-stripper who claims that she "loves to be loved" but is a 'serial cheat' who has "been unfaithful in the majority of her past relationships".

By contrast, Jason is a relatively successful business owner and part-time actor and body double, who - despite being a powerfully built physically tough 'hard man' - is, by his own admission, "a softie" whom is regarded by those who know him as; "just a big marshmallow with a pet ****zu."

I believe Charlie to be a 'gold-digger' who - like all such women - has no qualms about 'trading' the only 'asset' which she possesses, her body (nothing to write home about there IMHO) for 'La Dolce Vita' -- courtesy of some gullible guy.

I believe that in Jason, she thought she had hit 'pay dirt' - a relatively well off, stable man who, because of his polite, soft-hearted, and submissive demeanour was malleable and 'putty in her hands'.

I further believe that having hit the 'mother lode' she was paranoid about losing it, and her self-admitted jealousy quickly caused the relationship to become toxic.

She admits that she did not "treat Jason nicely" and to being the reason for the breakdown of their relationship.

I recognise only too well that look of embarrassed sufferance and helplessness which poor Jason wears when hammy actress Charlie is bullying him with her - clearly fake - displays of weeping and wailing heartbreak because it is the same look I once wore.

I was in a very toxic relationship with a beautiful girl who DID love me totally but whose irrational insecurities eventually caused me to end the relationship.

Every time any woman - of any age - even looked at me, or if girls who were my long-standing friends that I had never had any type of intimate relationship with, stopped to say 'Hello', my girlfriend's face would drop and she would start the mother of all arguments.

How I squirmed with embarrassment - just like poor Jason.

It ended up that when I was out with my girlfriend and I spotted any female friends approaching, I would deliberately cross the street or pretend to look in shop windows to avoid any contact and the inevitable rows which followed.

So - yes - in my opinion, Jason is a victim and I will replicate here what I have posted on another thread:

"Charlie - Someone contact the Vatican - URGENTLY - we are all witnessing a true miracle; an hysterically weeping heartbroken woman but NO SIGN OF TEARS.

Poor Jason is too chivalrous and kind to deter her harrassment of him with the degree of nastiness and force which he AND she both know is necessary, and so this poor gentle man squirms with embarrassed acceptance while the hammy actress bullies him.

She is pathetic, and needs to retreat to a quiet corner of the house, adopt the 'Lotus' position and contemplate the words; Dignity and Self-Respect."

Brilliant post....totally agree with your point.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Brilliant post....totally agree with your point.

Hi Rusticgal - Sincere thanks for the compliment. I really do appreciate it.

[Jordan.]

I think people forget she didn't know he was in there either, she hasn't gone in intentionally to try win him back on TV.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

I think people forget she didn't know he was in there either, she hasn't gone in intentionally to try win him back on TV.

I don't believe this for one second

However, I don't blame Charlie for it either tbh. I blame BB. I don't think they should have opened up this hornets nest at all. Its not entertaining...its mean

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I don't believe this for one second

However, I don't blame Charlie for it either tbh. I blame BB. I don't think they should have opened up this hornets nest at all. Its not entertaining...its mean

I totally agree as per, vicky. you just made me realise who i'm gonna vote for in my last nom this week <3

[armand.kay]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

I think people forget she didn't know he was in there either, she hasn't gone in intentionally to try win him back on TV.

This! Thinking about it Charlie has got the short end of the stick because no matter what he does Jason will come off as the hero and Charlie as the 'bunny boiler'...

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

This! Thinking about it Charlie has got the short end of the stick because no matter what he does Jason will come off as the hero and Charlie as the 'bunny boiler'...

Exactly. Hence the questions I'm posing. I dont think she can win either way .

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Exactly. Hence the questions I'm posing. I dont think she can win either way .

She could have, if she didn't come on so bloody strong Dropping it now would probably gain a bit of popularity for her tbh. Spent the first few days going on about her bastard ex...and now is all over him like a rash.

I preferred her beforehand tbh. came across a very strong woman, a woman scorned, but a strong woman none the less. What we are seeing now, I don't want to see. This isn't particularly her *fault* as shes head over heels...I just don't want to see it and think jason is in a way worse position than she is.