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Old 24-06-2016, 08:35 AM #1
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Default Should Scotland have another referendum soon

Should Scotland have the opportunity to vote for independence again seeing as all constituencies voted to stay in the EU and if so when?

And for Scottish members, would your vote change
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Well some are saying that if Scotland broke away from the UK then they would have to reapply to join the EU,they would have to take the Euro as their currency as all new EU countries,they would have to go under a massive austerity programme and they may end up like Greece.
But i voted Don't care.

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There's not a chance in hell. England would remove free movement of people the only way to get to Scotland (assuming you're not flying) from the EU is to travel through England making it easy for people to come here illegally. Scotland would adopt the failing Euro, and because of Scotland's bad economy they would not be a contributor to the Europeon Union leaving France and Germany to look after them financially it's not going to happen.
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Also Nicola Sturgeon has failed 2 referendums it's about time she pissed off

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Also Nicola Sturgeon has failed 2 referendums it's about time she pissed off
The stumpy little bitch is horrendous and revolts me. I wish she would piss off - preferably to Brussels.
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The stumpy little bitch is horrendous and revolts me. I wish she would piss off - preferably to Brussels.


But she has MP's in Our Parliament
that have votes in Our stuff


Because Ed Miliband failed in Scotland
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Sure ain't no caviar in her guts
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Are you fecking delusional? It was the Scots - every fecking area which voted REMAIN. It was Sturgeon who said that Scotland's future lies with the EU NOT the UK.

The Scots WANT devolution - not me - and if they want it, then let them have it.

The Scots WANT to remain in the EU - not me - and if they want it then let them have it.

And all the shet which comes from having it.
And that excuses your use of deliberately inflamatory and (undeniably this time, Kirk) xenophobic slur-terms like "jocks"? I get that your balls are swollen after the Leave result Kirk but I'd suggest you retire to the bathroom and sort yourself out, because you're on thin ****ing ice.
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And that excuses your use of deliberately inflamatory and (undeniably this time, Kirk) xenophobic slur-terms like "jocks"? I get that your balls are swollen after the Leave result Kirk but I'd suggest you retire to the bathroom and sort yourself out, because you're on thin ****ing ice.
I have two friends - one from my schooldays - who are both Scottish, and both are called; 'Jock'.

No xenophobia or slur intended, and I will delete my post.

But I take exception to you labelling me xenophobic.
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I have two friends - one from my schooldays - who are both Scottish, and both are called; 'Jock'.

No xenophobia or slur intended, and I will delete my post.

But I take exception to you labelling me xenophobic.
My wife's grandad is a little Irish fellow called Patrick but I still manage not to go around calling Irish people "Paddies". The tone of the post made it perfectly clear that the word was being used intending offense Kirk and that is xenophobia... if you don't want to be labelled xenophobic, don't do it?
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My wife's grandad is a little Irish fellow called Patrick but I still manage not to go around calling Irish people "Paddies". The tone of the post made it perfectly clear that the word was being used intending offense Kirk and that is xenophobia... if you don't want to be labelled xenophobic, don't do it?
My post has gone and I've been punished.

As for being labelled xenophobic on here - I really couldn't care less any more. So fire away.
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no

not yet anyway
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It's a tricky one, it would have to be ideally timed - long enough from this referrendum to see the way things are going, but also before Brexit is fully implemented in a few years' time.

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There's not a chance in hell. England would remove free movement of people the only way to get to Scotland (assuming you're not flying) from the EU is to travel through England making it easy for people to come here illegally.
What bull**** is this? For one, there are already sea routes to Europe from the east coast of Scotland that could be easily expanded. For another - even if ports didn't already exist - it wouldn't exactly be impossible to build them? Scotland believe it or not, is not landlocked.
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Well there is 2 years
to go so No Hurry
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Why not, let's **** things up even further.
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twice as many people in London voted to remain than in Scotland
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twice as many people in London voted to remain than in Scotland
Get rid of them too yarrrr set up a new capital in a nice British pub that sells only Real Ale and doesn't allow in foreign johnnies London is basically Muslim now anyway yarr ayaaarrrr let those European nazi filth-pigs have them along with us Jocks yarr.
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twice as many people in London voted to remain than in Scotland
Twice as many people live in London than live in Scotland. And a good proportion of them are Scottish.

there should definitely be a referendum on whether Scotland remain part of the UK and it should be soon. Only this time, it should be England voting on whether we want Scotland to remain.
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Twice as many people live in London than live in Scotland. And a good proportion of them are Scottish.

there should definitely be a referendum on whether Scotland remain part of the UK and it should be soon. Only this time, it should be England voting on whether we want Scotland to remain.
I hope so, England has aptly demonstrated their desire to be isolationists so Scotland would have a much better chance of getting out if you were the ones voting
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I hope so, England has aptly demonstrated their desire to be isolationists so Scotland would have a much better chance of getting out if you were the ones voting
I know.
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Twice as many people live in London than live in Scotland. And a good proportion of them are Scottish.

there should definitely be a referendum on whether Scotland remain part of the UK and it should be soon. Only this time, it should be England voting on whether we want Scotland to remain.
Here, here.
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I think we should, but only if the SNP are sure they would win, otherwise it's a waste of even more money
The Scots have spoken and want to remain in EU, 62%
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I think we should, but only if the SNP are sure they would win, otherwise it's a waste of even more money
The Scots have spoken and want to remain in EU, 62%
I've seen a figure quoted that another referrendum should only be called if a significant number of polls are showing 60%+ support. That seems fairly sensible. We wouldn't want some result where something low like 52% constitutes and accurate indicator of desires for a country's entire political future. Oh wait...

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