[GiRTh]

Knew he would.

[Samm]

Charlie made him relevant

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Samm

Charlie made him relevant

Exactly. He's got no narrative without her.

[Drew.]

Used Charlie as a reason why he distanced himself from Evelyn.. and that was it

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Drew.

Used Charlie as a reason why he distanced himself from Evelyn.. and that was it

Most of us know that Drew,we saw it,it made sense,

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Most of us know that Drew,we saw it,it made sense,

How is Charlie to blame for his actions in the house? Is he not an adult?

And what did she do exactly? Shout and scream? I don t remember that. If anything she was just a bit sulky. So how is Charlie responsible for his behavior.

There have been few more false HM's in the history of the show than Jason..

[Drew.]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

How is Charlie to blame for his actions in the house? Is he not an adult?

And what did she do exactly? Shout and scream? I don t remember that. So how is Charlie responsible for his behavior.

There have been few more false HM:s in the history of the show.

She asked him not to do things and he pretty much did what she asked. You give him stick for doing that, and you'd have given him stick if he went against Charlies word and did things during her time in there to intentionally piss her off. The guy can't win..

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Drew.

She asked him not to do things and he pretty much did what she asked. You give him stick for doing that, and you'd have given him stick if he went against Charlies word and did things during her time in there to intentionally piss her off. The guy can't win..

So you're saying she was controlling. I dont remember that.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Drew.

She asked him not to do things and he pretty much did what she asked. You give him stick for doing that, and you'd have given him stick if he went against Charlies word and did things during her time in there to intentionally piss her off. The guy can't win..

I'm ignoring it all its just a wind up,its obvious what he meant,charlie had told him not to go for any of them !!! selective deafness or blinding hatred take your pick.

[Denver]

Charlie is a bunny boiler who will thankfully never be loved again

[Speedster]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Charlie is a bunny boiler who will thankfully never be loved again

[iRyan]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Charlie is a bunny boiler who will thankfully never be loved again

What an awful thing to say

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by iRyan

What an awful thing to say

I agree...she needs to love herself first but she deserves to find happiness just like everyone. She was a nightmare but I doubt that it's either herself or Jason that's made her that way.

[GiRTh]

So Charlie was to blame for that. How do you work that out?

[Denver]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

So Charlie was to blame for that. How do you work that out?

Didnt she say she would go for any girl he got close too?

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

So Charlie was to blame for that. How do you work that out?

Jason obviously had a good relationship with the girls before Charlie went in the house. The girls saw him as a father figure.
His whole personae changed when Charlie walked in...he became withdrawn and couldn't mess around with the girls because Charlie watched his every move....and the shirt incident proved that.
Now the bunny boilers gone he is back to his old self...but despite explaining to Evelyn and Emma they are so thick...they didn't get it.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Jason obviously had a good relationship with the girls before Charlie went in the house. The girls saw him as a father figure.
His whole personae changed when Charlie walked in...he became withdrawn and couldn't mess around with the girls because Charlie watched his every move....and the shirt incident proved that.
Now the bunny boilers gone he is back to his old self...but despite explaining to Evelyn and Emma they are so thick...they didn't get it.

Exactly, he changed but why and are we seriously blaming her for that change? I say again, he's a grown adult and I didnt see her do anything that he couldnt stop or control. If the girls dont like him then he needs to stop blaming the easy target

No she didnt watch his every move.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Exactly, he changed but why and are we seriously blaming her for that change? I say again, he's a grown adult and I didnt see her do anything that he couldnt stop or control. If the girls dont like him then he needs to stop blaming the easy target

No she didnt watch his every move.

He was rarely out of her sight. Do you not understand how a person with a controlling and obsessive dis order like Charlie can intimidate and suppress someone.
I know people that act completely different when their partners are around...it's sad to watch. Charlie was obsessed with Jason...she couldn't take no for an answer...she still believes she and he are in with a chance.
Look how she carried on after Jason gave Evelyn the shirt... You say there was nothing he couldn't stop or control?....did you not see him tell her many times that they were no longer a couple....every time she said "so long as I know where I stand"....and the very next day she was off again.
You can see in Jason's body language how chilled and relaxed he is since Charlie left....perhaps if Laura and Evelyn paid more attention to their friends situation instead of throwing themselves around anyone that's 'fit' and breathes they might have understood why he was the way he was.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

He was rarely out of her sight. Do you not understand how a person with a controlling and obsessive dis order like Charlie can intimidate and suppress someone.
I know people that act completely different when their partners are around...it's sad to watch. Charlie was obsessed with Jason...she couldn't take no for an answer...she still believes she and he are in with a chance.
Look how she carried on after Jason gave Evelyn the shirt... You say there was nothing he couldn't stop or control?....did you not see him tell her many times that they were no longer a couple....every time she said "so long as I know where I stand"....and the very next day she was off again.
You can see in Jason's body language how chilled and relaxed he is since Charlie left....perhaps if Laura and Evelyn paid more attention to their friends situation instead of throwing themselves around anyone that's 'fit' and breathes they might have understood why he was the way he was.

That's what I saw too rusti, he's been nothing but decent,time for Jason to play that game.

[tanussa]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

He was rarely out of her sight. Do you not understand how a person with a controlling and obsessive dis order like Charlie can intimidate and suppress someone.
I know people that act completely different when their partners are around...it's sad to watch. Charlie was obsessed with Jason...she couldn't take no for an answer...she still believes she and he are in with a chance.
Look how she carried on after Jason gave Evelyn the shirt... You say there was nothing he couldn't stop or control?....did you not see him tell her many times that they were no longer a couple....every time she said "so long as I know where I stand"....and the very next day she was off again.
You can see in Jason's body language how chilled and relaxed he is since Charlie left....perhaps if Laura and Evelyn paid more attention to their friends situation instead of throwing themselves around anyone that's 'fit' and breathes they might have understood why he was the way he was.

funny how some people choose not to have seen this, I find it unbelievable. why do they think she was called bunny boiler, even on bots.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

He was rarely out of her sight. Do you not understand how a person with a controlling and obsessive dis order like Charlie can intimidate and suppress someone.
I know people that act completely different when their partners are around...it's sad to watch. Charlie was obsessed with Jason...she couldn't take no for an answer...she still believes she and he are in with a chance.
Look how she carried on after Jason gave Evelyn the shirt... You say there was nothing he couldn't stop or control?....did you not see him tell her many times that they were no longer a couple....every time she said "so long as I know where I stand"....and the very next day she was off again.
You can see in Jason's body language how chilled and relaxed he is since Charlie left....perhaps if Laura and Evelyn paid more attention to their friends situation instead of throwing themselves around anyone that's 'fit' and breathes they might have understood why he was the way he was.

They're in the same house so are bound to come across each other pretty much every day so of course she was rarely out of sight but you make it seem like she followed him around which I dont agree with.

As for the rest, we dont know what happened n their life before the house so cant speculate on whether her mere presence makes him feel uncomfortable. If looks like ti does, so again got to criticise him for not being strong enough to handle the situation..

[hot2go]

I agreed with him....if they weren't such silly little idiots they would have worked that out themselves and could have saved him having to explain it.

[sampvt]

lovin jasons honesty

[Pete.]

Charlie still relevant days after her eviction

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Pete.

Charlie still relevant days after her eviction

She's more relevant than he's ever been