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It's been a tumultuous few days for Biggins since his ejection from the Celebrity Big Brother house, after making a series of controversial comments.

But now, speaking to The Sun, Biggins has said he plans to visit Auschwitz, in the Polish city of Krakow, later this year.

"I am going there. It will be my first time. I know it's going to be horrible. I know it's going to be ghastly. I know it's going to be emotional," Biggins said.

"Before I went into the house, my partner Neil and I were talking about it because we just feel the whole scenario of the Jewish annihilation is so horrific that we wanted to experience it for ourselves.

"We're going for five days in October. I'm really looking forward to it. Especially now after this incident.

Biggins also revealed that he, and some of his fellow housemates, all feared for their safety in the house.

Bear smashed a mirror by throwing a mug in rage following an argument earlier this week – and, unsurprisingly, it caused tension within the house.

Biggins explained: "The night after Bear went crazy and smashed the glass, people were upset. Bear went mad.

"I felt sorry for the cameraman behind it because the glass could have shattered on him.

"There's knifes and cutlery."

He revealed that Frankie Grande felt especially fearful and the dancer came to him and cried.

"He said that in America he can't be as vocal or outrageous as he would like because the fear is what happened in Orlando in the gay bar where that man shot all those gay people.

"He said he fears going out in America in glitter and outrageous clothes.

"But then he said: 'I'm frightened in here now after what happened last night.'

Between his unusual cocktail mixing, breaking out of jail and blowing up at his housemates after that nomination twist, Bear doesn't look like he's calming down anytime soon...

Bear was nominated for eternal nominations earlier this week, but see who else has been nominated tonight (7 august).
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ohmigod. This can't be real. He's really going that far to prove himself...literally.
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ohmigod. This can't be real. He's really going that far to prove himself...literally.
I think everyone should visit Auschwitz. If only to remind us of what we are capable of. The birds don't sing there, even now.
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..I'm still a bit unclear what Biggins said exactly that caused his removal from the house because he seems to have many prejudices but it was a 'joke' comparing the shower to a gas chamber in a concentration camp..?...hmmm, maybe he is going to visit Auschwitz as a 'damage limitation' thing and more for himself to try to preserve his income and get work etc...but whatever the reason, surely it's a good thing because it might change and have him reassessing some of his mind-sets ..?...it's not somewhere that can't have an emotional effect and to provoke thought...and surely that's a good thing, whatever the reasons for going because it's better to have a prejudice reassessed and possibly removed than to just leave it there and forever judge because of it...isn't it better to have altered and changed mind-sets and re-assed mindsets, rather than him not going and leaving prejudice and intolerance out there....
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I think everyone should visit Auschwitz. If only to remind us of what we are capable of. The birds don't sing there, even now.
Yeah, I do agree with you, and I'm really interested in going one day. I've already been to one Holocaust memorial centre and have heard the story of a Holocaust survivor.

However, I do find that in this instance it is completely tasteless giving the circumstances. I don't think he would ever have went if it weren't for his removal, and in my opinion it's a really tacky case of damage control. All he has to say is that he's not anti-Semitic and most people would have probably left the situation. This is making it completely worse because his intentions are obviously questionable.
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However, I do find that in this instance it is completely tasteless giving the circumstances. I don't think he would ever have went if it weren't for his removal, and in my opinion it's a really tacky case of damage control. All he has to say is that he's not anti-Semitic and most people would have probably left the situation. This is making it completely worse because his intentions are obviously questionable.
Exactly, and even if it was simply the case that he wants to have a look at himself and understand more about it, he and his partner would just have quietly gone there. A personal experience. The fact that he felt the need to state it publicly is what makes it obvious that it's not about personal reflection at all, it's about his professional image, and using "stunt" involving a place like that to preserve his career... It's just tasteless in the extreme.

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Exactly, and even if it was simply the case that he wants to have a look at himself and understand more about it, he and his partner would just have quietly gone there. A personal experience. The fact that he felt the need to state it publicly is what makes it obvious that it's not about personal reflection at all, it's about his professional image, and using "stunt" involving a place like that to preserve his career... It's just tasteless in the extreme.
..but do you think it really matters what the motivation TS if the result were to be that it took away a prejudice and caused someone to re-asses etc..isn't that the important thing more than anything else../ the end result as it were if it was a positive one and removed one negative mind-set..the rest of it is more well we get to decide and don't buy the book/watch the movie/the TV Show etc because are things that each and every one of us have control in doing, in whether that 'damage limitation' or whatever can have success in terms of his career/income....he's kind of 'perfect celebrity' for a CBB in some years time because he wants to change public opinion of him for that one time he went into a reality show and was hated/judged forever more etc...how ironic is that, baby....I just think that he can lay low as it were and we can carry on in our negative judgement of a person and to what gain or value or there could be someone come out of CBB who really has 'made a journey' and become a better person..
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Exactly, and even if it was simply the case that he wants to have a look at himself and understand more about it, he and his partner would just have quietly gone there. A personal experience. The fact that he felt the need to state it publicly is what makes it obvious that it's not about personal reflection at all, it's about his professional image, and using "stunt" involving a place like that to preserve his career... It's just tasteless in the extreme.
Definitely! I don't know if he's going to be on This Morning, but I don't doubt he would've wanted to discuss this to some extent just so he could make people aware of the damage control. That's if he's not already dumbfounded by the negative response.
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Yeah, I do agree with you, and I'm really interested in going one day. I've already been to one Holocaust memorial centre and have heard the story of a Holocaust survivor.

However, I do find that in this instance it is completely tasteless giving the circumstances. I don't think he would ever have went if it weren't for his removal, and in my opinion it's a really tacky case of damage control. All he has to say is that he's not anti-Semitic and most people would have probably left the situation. This is making it completely worse because his intentions are obviously questionable.
Yes you could be right about the timing of his visit.
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I think everyone should visit Auschwitz. If only to remind us of what we are capable of. The birds don't sing there, even now.
Of course the birds sing there.
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Of course the birds sing there.
Go and see for yourself.
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So he's using the literal site of some of the most horrific crimes in history as a gimmick / prop to improve his own image and "prove something"? ... ... ... Seriously misjudged, in my opinion.
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So he's using the literal site of some of the most horrific crimes in history as a gimmick / prop to improve his own image and "prove something"? ... ... ... Seriously misjudged, in my opinion.
Yup, he must be insane if he thinks this is going to do him any good. If the man wants to make some kind of visit there do it privately, don't make a media circus out of it.
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Auschwitz this whole saga goes from bad to worse.
He said sorry and I believe it was scincre he never meant to offend it was just a crass joke.
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If this is his agents idea of damage limitation then he's a **** agent!

He'll be off to Africa the following week to show that he loves everyone there as much as his black neighbours.
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He'll be off to Africa the following week to show that he loves everyone there as much as his black neighbours.
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If this is his agents idea of damage limitation then he's a **** agent!

He'll be off to Africa the following week to show that he loves everyone there as much as his black neighbours.
To have sex with an African woman, and have a photo of it in the sun. "See?? I'm bi now! I love bi's! Especially ones who have sex in Africa!"
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WHy? He said what he said, he cant un say it why is he doing this?
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WHy? He said what he said, he cant un say it why is he doing this?
He's using a visit to Auschwitz to say "Hey look everyone! See! Biggins LOVES Jews!"

It's pretty foul.
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He's using a visit to Auschwitz to say "Hey look everyone! See! Biggins LOVES Jews!"

It's pretty foul.
Obviously, but why bother? If he's that desperate to be loved then he shouldn't talk sh*t on a TV programme.
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The poor man is taking it badly. I hope he is ok.
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It makes the whole situation worse, instead of just apologising and saying that you will learn from your mistakes to grow a person he has to go the extra (thousand) miles and actually travel to a REAL concentration camp as an attempt to protect his image?
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If he is going to Auschwitz and takes the Sun or whoever with him for the photo opportunity then this is in incredibly bad taste.
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If he is going to Auschwitz and takes the Sun or whoever with him for the photo opportunity then this is in incredibly bad taste.
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This is painful, it makes the whole reasons for him visiting seem forced on and fake which isn't appropriate for a place like this
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