[the truth]

I just watched the misandrist male bashing bonmarche advert where women are hitting men and mocking them and no one bats an eyelide https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YS6u4NPFI2Q came across just a few of 1000s of male bashing adverts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S62sl-qWEqo....the general theme is all men are morons, incapable, selfish, lazy, greedy, incapable, dumb , ignorant stupid idiots and all women are perfect and betetr at everything and of course thats not sexist at all?


If it was the other way around the adverts would be pulled down the company fined, politicians would be debating it and feminists would be up in arms..What a disgraceful bigoted ,male bashing culture we now live in, no doubt it must destroy the confidence of young boys watching..But who cares about them eh? they fall ever further behind in schools and educattion and young men earn way less than young women on average and of course male suicides are 4 times the rate and womens mental health gets over 10 times as much money spent on it too..The double standards are appalling and this proves yet again feminists do not want equality they want to live by different sets of rules which put womens rights as far more important than mens

[Smithy]

general theme is all men are morons, incapable, selfish, lazy, greedy, incapable, dumb , ignorant stupid idiots and all women are perfect and betetr at everything and of course thats not sexist at all?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Own the Day’ is all about empowering women and inspiring confidence,

disgusting sexism

[the truth]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Own the Day’ is all about empowering women and inspiring confidence,

disgusting sexism

by violently attacking men?

[Crimson Dynamo]

at the Truth for exposing this shame in advertising

[ArgyESC]

Are you kidding me? You are talking about "discrimination against men" while unfortunately, we live in a society where women are considered inferior and have many less opportunities in every single sector? Please stop it, it's ridiculous. This "sexism against males thing" doesn't even exist. You've made it up.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by ESCArgy

Are you kidding me? You are talking about "discrimination against men" while unfortunately, we live in a society where women are considered inferior and have many less opportunities in every single sector? Please stop it, it's ridiculous. This "sexism against males thing" doesn't even exist. You've made it up.

we have a woman PM

what on earth are you on about?

[ArgyESC]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

we have a woman PM

what on earth are you on about?

Please speak clearly, I can't understand what you are trying to say. We are not all native English speakers here, you know.

[armand.kay]

Originally Posted by ESCArgy

Are you kidding me? You are talking about "discrimination against men" while unfortunately, we live in a society where women are considered inferior and have many less opportunities in every single sector? Please stop it, it's ridiculous. This "sexism against males thing" doesn't even exist. You've made it up.

While this tread is a bit of a reach... sexism has negative effects both men and women and just because men's issues are not talked about doesn't mean they don't exist.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by ESCArgy

Are you kidding me? You are talking about "discrimination against men" while unfortunately, we live in a society where women are considered inferior and have many less opportunities in every single sector? Please stop it, it's ridiculous. This "sexism against males thing" doesn't even exist. You've made it up.

Yes I am 100% deadly serious, men are more discriminated against in british society than women. Women get 10 times more money spent on their health, men commit suicide at 4 times the rate, men die younger by 5 years across the entire western world, almost 50% of men grow up fatherless, fathers lose custody in over 80% of divorce cases, and over 80% lose their homes too, boys are light years behind girls at every level of education and women under 30 earn considerably more on average than men...This casual misandry such as this advert actually advocates violence against men. More mothers than fathers are violently abusive to their children. This is simply not reported onn mainstream news anymore because the rise of fascist feminism which basically disables all free speech that involves criticizing the fmeinist agenda.

[Vicky.]

I agree with the OP. The violence ad especially is horrific. You speak of feminists though...getting ads banned and such. Can I ask one thing? Why do you expect feminists (who are mainly about womens rights) to stand up for men? In theory I agree that fighting for equality in general is the way forward, but surely there should be men standing up for themselves rather than expecting women to do it...if that makes sense? Why is there no male' equivalent of feminists? You could maybe start off such a movement, given your dedication to pointing out how males are disadvantaged?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I agree with the OP. The violence ad especially is horrific. You speak of feminists though...getting ads banned and such. Can I ask one thing? Why do you expect feminists (who are mainly about womens rights) to stand up for men? In theory I agree that fighting for equality in general is the way forward, but surely there should be men standing up for themselves rather than expecting women to do it...if that makes sense? Why is there no male' equivalent of feminists? You could maybe start off such a movement, given your dedication to pointing out how males are disadvantaged?

"Feminists" are about gender equality.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

"Feminists" are about gender equality.

Maybe. I do feel feminists would fight a hell of a lot harder for something that effects women though. But apparently these days women are equal, if not moreso than poor men?

I shall remember this the next time some loser pinches my arse just because I happen to be wearing tight trousers..or assumes I am dumb because I do not possess a penis. Or talks over me. And so on. I should feel lucky I guess.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I agree with the OP. The violence ad especially is horrific. You speak of feminists though...getting ads banned and such. Can I ask one thing? Why do you expect feminists (who are mainly about womens rights) to stand up for men? In theory I agree that fighting for equality in general is the way forward, but surely there should be men standing up for themselves rather than expecting women to do it...if that makes sense? Why is there no male' equivalent of feminists? You could maybe start off such a movement, given your dedication to pointing out how males are disadvantaged?

men arent allowed to speak on these matters simple. if they do they lose their jobs and get smeared and and slandered. The culture is now obscenely biased towards women

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by the truth

men arent allowed to speak on these matters simple. if they do they lose their jobs and get smeared and and slandered. The culture is now obscenely biased towards women

Can you provide an example of a man speaking out against sexism and losing his job?

[Ammi]

...that Bonmarche ad is just awful...I've seen a few social experiment type vids and the complete difference in reactions from the general public, when a female is 'the victim' in aggressive situations and many will help/intervene...as opposed to when a female is being aggressive to a male and there is sometimes laughter at that situation../hahahaha, he must have been a naughty boy then, type thing......

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I agree with the OP. The violence ad especially is horrific. You speak of feminists though...getting ads banned and such. Can I ask one thing? Why do you expect feminists (who are mainly about womens rights) to stand up for men? In theory I agree that fighting for equality in general is the way forward, but surely there should be men standing up for themselves rather than expecting women to do it...if that makes sense? Why is there no male' equivalent of feminists? You could maybe start off such a movement, given your dedication to pointing out how males are disadvantaged?

Genuine feminists (i.e. liberal feminists and not radical ones, like most seem to assume all feminists are these days) support, fight and believe in the emancipation of women to achieve equality with men, and vice versa. It isn't about women surpassing men at all costs as some seem to believe, but more about bringing genuine equality to both sexes. This would thus - and does- actually include supporting issues which disproportionally affect men.

The OP is actually correct. There are very real issues that affect men more than women and they do need addressing, and in fact a lot of them stem from the socially constructed gender roles society has created (oh btw that reminds me, sorry I haven't got round to reading that link yet but I've been busy with moving back to uni - shall do it soon). That said, the truth seems to believe that discrimination and societal issues are a competition and exist in isolation of each other when that isn't the case at all (some reading on intersectionality would be useful). There are problems affecting men, women, homosexual, bisexual, heterosexual, disabled people, etc etc to varying degrees - and they all need addressing.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by the truth

are you really saying only men talk over women and never the other way around? are you seriously saying if a man touches you , you dont have the legal right to report it to the police and get him arrested?

LOL yeah, I would be taken really seriously for reporting a butt pinch to the police? And no, of course I am not saying only men talk over women and never the other way around...but it happens more (ina professional environment) that men speak over women, and men are more listened to than women simply for being men. About technical stuff women can never know apparently as they are sweet little flowers that should be in the kitchen, not working in a 'mans environment'. Hell, last year I was in the apple shop and saw some guy umming and ahhing about some ridiculously pricey tablet he was wanting and asked for help, a woman came over and he said he wanted someone who 'actually knows what they are talking about' and beckoned a bloke over, who told the guy that the woman was actually best qualified and would be better to answer. That was quite funny to witness..and its definitely not the only instance of this kind of thing I have seen

Originally Posted by Jack_

Genuine feminists (i.e. liberal feminists and not radical ones, like most seem to assume all feminists are these days) support, fight and believe in the emancipation of women to achieve equality with men, and vice versa. It isn't about women surpassing men at all costs as some seem to believe, but more about bringing genuine equality to both sexes. This would thus - and does- actually include supporting issues which disproportionally affect men.

The OP is actually correct. There are very real issues that affect men more than women and they do need addressing, and in fact a lot of them stem from the socially constructed gender roles society has created (oh btw that reminds me, sorry I haven't got round to reading that link yet but I've been busy with moving back to uni - shall do it soon). That said, the truth seems to believe that discrimination and societal issues are a competition and exist in isolation of each other when that isn't the case at all (some reading on intersectionality would be useful). There are problems affecting men, women, homosexual, bisexual, heterosexual, disabled people, etc etc to varying degrees - and they all need addressing.

Indeed.

About feminism...its not something I really know anything about, always just assumed that feminism was about fighting for womens rights tbh. So I bow to your superior knowledge

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by ESCArgy

Are you kidding me? You are talking about "discrimination against men" while unfortunately, we live in a society where women are considered inferior and have many less opportunities in every single sector? Please stop it, it's ridiculous. This "sexism against males thing" doesn't even exist. You've made it up.

Misandry absolutely exists and it's absurd that people insist on pretending it doesn't. There are situations where women are at a disadvantage, yes, but the same goes for men.

Just look at the general attitude towards men being assaulted by women and how casually it's treated. I watched a social experiment online where actors simulated domestic abuse in public and barely anyone cared when the man was the victim, some even said they assumed he deserved it. Then there's when The View panelists laughed at the story of a woman castrating her husband and when one of them brought up the double standard, the response was, and I quote, "It's different". It's things like this that result in male victims of domestic violence being less inclined to speak out, because there's still a disturbing trend of female-on-male violence being seen as funny and/or warranted.

So no, nobody's making anything up.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

Misandry absolutely exists and it's absurd that people insist on pretending it doesn't. There are situations where women are at a disadvantage, yes, but the same goes for men.

Just look at the general attitude towards men being assaulted by women and how casually it's treated. I watched a social experiment online where actors simulated domestic abuse in public and barely anyone cared when the man was the victim, some even said they assumed he deserved it. Then there's when The View panelists laughed at the story of a woman castrating her husband and when one of them brought up the double standard, the response was, and I quote, "It's different". It's things like this that result in male victims of domestic violence being less inclined to speak out, because there's still a disturbing trend of female-on-male violence being seen as funny and/or warranted.

So no, nobody's making anything up.

..yeah I totally agree Lostie and said earlier that some of those social experiments are extremely disturbing because it's not just that reactions are less to help a male but also that I many situations, it's actually laughed at and go girl, type thing in applauding the female....

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..yeah I totally agree Lostie and said earlier that some of those social experiments are extremely disturbing because it's not just that reactions are less to help a male but also that I many situations, it's actually laughed at and go girl, type thing in applauding the female....

Absolutely. Both the experiment I watched and that Talk fiasco (it was The Talk, I always mix it up with The View ) treated it like some form of female empowerment (the example from The Talk was even more unsettling because it was such a savage act and the first response was to laugh and basically act like he probably had it coming ).

While these sentiments are still around, I find it impossible to deny that prejudice against males exists. It does and the evidence is there, and acknowledging that doesn't in anyway invalidate the struggles that women face themselves.

[Mokka]

Yes....I am sure LT and the truth agree...that product advertising, marketing and labeling should all remain gender neutral.... and gender bias either way should end

[bots]

Youtube video

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Youtube video

1960s

this is 2016

[ArgyESC]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

1960s

this is 2016

... and there are still many many many misogynists.

I have seen YouTube comments like "Women should just cook and do the housework. The most they can do is give blowjobs, they can't do anything better."

This type of comments get posted nowadays. Yes, that's right. In 2016.