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Old 17-02-2017, 05:47 PM #1
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Trump Won the Election



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Trump Won.

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Using words like 'fascist' to describe Trump is immature and simply undermines it's true meaning. It weakens someone's argument - give em enough rope...
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Using words like 'fascist' to describe Trump is immature and simply undermines it's true meaning. It weakens someone's argument - give em enough rope...
I don't think he's a fascist. I think he seeks popularity (amongst those already on his coat tails) but is ultimately self-serving under the guise of populism. I think he is deluded and unintelligent. I think he would LOVE to be totalitarian if he could find a way to get away with it. I think he is probably dangerous and a narcissist. I don't think he expected or particularly wanted to win the presidency and now has very little idea what he's supposed to be doing, and is essentially winging it.

On a personal level I find him and his mannerisms intensely irritating. I find him to be a terrible, unconvincing and disingenuous public speaker. He is over-sensitive and defensive.

I could go on all day really but no... Fascism isn't really the issue.
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I don't think he's a fascist. I think he seeks popularity (amongst those already on his coat tails) but is ultimately self-serving under the guise of populism. I think he is deluded and unintelligent. I think he would LOVE to be totalitarian if he could find a way to get away with it. I think he is probably dangerous and a narcissist. I don't think he expected or particularly wanted to win the presidency and now has very little idea what he's supposed to be doing, and is essentially winging it.

On a personal level I find him and his mannerisms intensely irritating. I find him to be a terrible, unconvincing and disingenuous public speaker. He is over-sensitive and defensive.

I could go on all day really but no... Fascism isn't really the issue.
So who do you like?

Its easy to identify problems but not so easy to solve them, who is your fave..Cameron, Brown, May, Bill Clinton?

Slagging of Trump is easy, popular and somewhat predictable. But you have no album or record to sell so say who you admire
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So who do you like?

Its easy to identify problems but not so easy to solve them, who is your fave..Cameron, Brown, May, Bill Clinton?

Slagging of Trump is easy, popular and somewhat predictable. But you have no album or record to sell so say who you admire
I'm sure I clarified just yesterday that I think it's all a load of horse ****? That doesn't mean I have to pretend that Trump is something he isn't. Sure he shakes up the status quo, a bit, sort of... That doesn't mean he isn't everything I said above .
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I don't think he's a fascist. I think he seeks popularity (amongst those already on his coat tails) but is ultimately self-serving under the guise of populism. I think he is deluded and unintelligent. I think he would LOVE to be totalitarian if he could find a way to get away with it. I think he is probably dangerous and a narcissist. I don't think he expected or particularly wanted to win the presidency and now has very little idea what he's supposed to be doing, and is essentially winging it.

On a personal level I find him and his mannerisms intensely irritating. I find him to be a terrible, unconvincing and disingenuous public speaker. He is over-sensitive and defensive.

I could go on all day really but no... Fascism isn't really the issue.
I do agree that he didn't expect or want to win , was probably more shocked than most and probably questiond what the **** he had done. But he is having to get on with it. That said - he was/is an improvement on the only opposition.

He is not an accomplished and disingenuous politician and puts his foot in it constantly, but I prefer that bumbling inexperienced novice to the hard-nosed, scheming and downright devious professional Clinton, any day. Professional con-artist out to line her own pockets, more my idea of madness.
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I do agree that he didn't expect or want to win , was probably more shocked than most and probably questiond what the **** he had done. But he is having to get on with it. That said - he was/is an improvement on the only opposition.

He is not an accomplished and disingenuous politician and puts his foot in it constantly, but I prefer that bumbling inexperienced novice to the hard-nosed, scheming and downright devious professional Clinton, any day. Professional con-artist out to line her own pockets, more my idea of madness.
exactly, look at cameron

a snake oil salesman that sh1t his pants the second the public disagreed with him, or Blair

be careful who you wish for
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He is not an accomplished and disingenuous politician and puts his foot in it constantly, but I prefer that bumbling inexperienced novice to the hard-nosed, scheming and downright devious professional Clinton, any day. Professional con-artist out to line her own pockets, more my idea of madness.

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exactly, look at cameron

a snake oil salesman that sh1t his pants the second the public disagreed with him, or Blair

be careful who you wish for
And yet Corbyn has been roundly mocked on these forums for not being "PM material" and for not toeing the line, and people were all over Milliband for being weird while eating a sandwich and "Having a weird voice and making odd faces when he talks" because you couldn't have that as a respectable PM. Hmmmmm how very odd... It's almost like the criteria morphs and changes with each situation based on other political factors and leanings
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Trump is exactly what politics needs

Fake, pc lies, say not what you think but what you think you should say, doublespeak, lies, virtue signalling

id rather have trump and his vanity than clinton and her utter lies, contempt and entitlement
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The fact that Trumps lies are pettier and more obvious doesn't mean he isn't a liar?
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