[Scarlett.]

Then why is the government slowly farming out the NHS, police and other national services to multinational companies like G4S and healthcare companies in America? Surely if we want to take back control we shouldn't be selling our country wholesale?

[Mystic Mock]

It's the Tory way Chewy, and right wing politics in general, all about the short term and it ends up selling the country down the river as we own nothing.

[jaxie]

The EU is strongly in favour of privatisation so your point is rather doubtful OP. It astounds me sometimes how little those supporting the EU actually know about it.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by jaxie

The EU is strongly in favour of privatisation so your point is rather doubtful OP. It astounds me sometimes how little those supporting the EU actually know about it.

Why then, when the EU gave every member a choice to opt out of selling off their medical assets, did every country except us opt out?

Not a lot of people know this.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Why then, when the EU gave every member a choice to opt out of selling off their medical assets, did every country except us opt out?

Not a lot of people know this.

I've not seen any evidence of that and would need a lot more information before forming an opinion but I would imagine it had something to do with whoever was in power at the time and what the medical assets involved were and what they had in mind at the time. The Tories will never privatise the NHS as a whole, they wouldn't dare as it would be political suicide and they know it. Though you could argue elements of the NHS have been in private hands since the early 80s. Though opting out of any EU plan is rather a moot point since we are leaving.

The EU is in favour of privitisation, your reply doesn't really have much bearing on my actual response as it's not in the same context and just really an anti Tory point scoring which as a non Tory I couldn't really care less about. As someone who stated they voted for Brexit your defence of the EU is surprisingly inconsistent.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by jaxie

I've not seen any evidence of that and would need a lot more information before forming an opinion but I would imagine it had something to do with whoever was in power at the time and what the medical assets involved were and what they had in mind at the time. The Tories will never privatise the NHS as a whole, they wouldn't dare as it would be political suicide and they know it. Though you could argue elements of the NHS have been in private hands since the early 80s. Though opting out of any EU plan is rather a moot point since we are leaving.

Never underestimate how willing the voting public are to go against themselves out of spite for immigrants, the EU and people on benefits.

Mention any of those three and a large section of the voting public will vote for you and forgive you regardless of what you do. buzzwords matter more to most voters then actual policies.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Never underestimate how willing the voting public are to go against themselves out of spite for immigrants, the EU and people on benefits.

Mention any of those three and a large section of the voting public will vote for you and forgive you regardless of what you do. buzzwords matter more to most voters then actual policies.

Spite for immigrants is largely an illusion being thrown about every time anyone dares to say maybe we should look at who comes to the UK, look at their skills and maybe try to have a fairer system. Of course there are spiteful people but the narrow minded rhetoric about those who voted leave is ridiculous and offensive, and pretty much as bad as what you are accusing the people who voted leave of doing on mass. There were many reasons beyond immigration to vote to leave.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by jaxie

The EU is strongly in favour of privatisation so your point is rather doubtful OP. It astounds me sometimes how little those supporting the EU actually know about it.

We are not discussing the EU.... The EU had nothing to do with the OPs query :/

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

We are not discussing the EU.... The EU had nothing to do with the OPs query :/

The OP is about Brexit, Brexit is about leaving the EU.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by jaxie

The OP is about Brexit, Brexit is about leaving the EU.

It is noting to do with brexit... brexit is done, finished.

We are a stand alone country, as Chewy rightly says why then must our govt insist on it's reliance on foreign investors and/ or countries?
How could that be considered 'sovereign', is it not exactly how we would function if we were still part of the EU and having to abide by EU free trade rules?

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

It is noting to do with brexit... brexit is done, finished.

We are a stand alone country, as Chewy rightly says why then must our govt insist on it's reliance on foreign investors and/ or countries?
How could that be considered 'sovereign', is it not exactly how we would function if we were still part of the EU and having to abide by EU free trade rules?

I very much doubt we will be 'standing alone' for long.

[Scarlett.]

The thread isnt arguing for or against Brexit, Brexit is happening now, so, there's no point debating that. I'm talking about the fact that the government wants to keep selling off parts of this country when they claim to be 'taking back control'.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Chewy

Then why is the government slowly farming out the NHS, police and other national services to multinational companies like G4S and healthcare companies in America? Surely if we want to take back control we shouldn't be selling our country wholesale?

good points....lets have brexit in the hands of corbyn

[Denver]

Screaming that people think the EU is a good place when Merkel wants to turn it into N Korea

[Scarlett.]

Well it's too late to worry what the EU would do with the NHS anyway. It's not to late to worry what the current government is doing though.

[Tom4784]

It's the same in any work place, while working you represent your company.