[Kazanne]

This is what Enoch Powel said long before some of us were born,1968 ,do you agree with what he said all those years ago,Was he right or was he wrong?

[smudgie]

Some of his points may very well have been true, but I find his 'rivers of blood' speech very racist and can't agree with it.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Some of his points may very well have been true, but I find his 'rivers of blood' speech very racist and can't agree with it.

Was he a Labour man or Conservative Smudgie? what was the river of blood speech,let me google it.

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Was he a Labour man or Conservative Smudgie? what was the river of blood speech,let me google it.

Tory.
I can remember him in his latter years.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Tory.
I can remember him in his latter years.

I have done a bit of reading up on him Smudgie,he seemed very controversial for his time,very outspoken too,the Tories sacked him apparently.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Was he a Labour man or Conservative Smudgie? what was the river of blood speech,let me google it.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/3...od-speech.html

[King Gizzard]

Most of the middle bit's true but instead of it being the immigrants fault it's the conservative's with cuts to NHS, education and housing. So not in the way he imagined..

[MB.]

Enoch Powell was a right twat, so I half agree with you there

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by MB.

Enoch Powell was a right twat, so I half agree with you there

Did you know him?

[MB.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Did you know him?

Oh, okay, I'm sure all the racism was an act and he was lovely behind closed doors

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by MB.

Oh, okay, I'm sure all the racism was an act and he was lovely behind closed doors

I only asked as you called him a twat,I was only asking about him as was chatting with someone about it today wondered how many on here knew of him as a politition,that is all Were you around when he was in parliament? if you don't ask you never learn anything.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I only asked as you called him a twat,I was only asking about him as was chatting with someone about it today wondered how many on here knew of him as a politition,that is all Where you around when he was in parliament? if you don't ask you never learn anything.

Kazanne its like Oliver twist asking for more food.

[joeysteele]

If I'd been around then most of his comments would have disgusted me.
I read more racism as to a fair bit he said.

So,no I would not have agreed or supported him.

[thesheriff443]

If Enoch Powell was born into an immigrant family he would of had a different view.
Should one person decide how and where another person should live based on skin colour and the country you were born in/

[thesheriff443]

[QUOTE=thesheriff443;9316225]If Enoch Powell was born into an immigrant family he would of had a different view.
Should one person decide how and where another person should live based on skin colour and the country you were born in?

[Mystic Mock]

The one thing that he has definitely got right is there is an overpopulation crisis in the UK due to open door immigration which means that jobs are hard to come by for anybody living in the UK (including the immigrants) it will be harder to get seen at the NHS due to the overpopulation, and of course there will be issues with Schools as it's gonna be very hard to get into a top School if there's loads more people in the country.

However Enoch Powel seems to just be against all immigrants just because he doesn't like them which I completely disagree with as some immigration is good for this country financially.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

This is what Enoch Powel said long before some of us were born,1968 ,do you agree with what he said all those years ago,Was he right or was he wrong?

I don't think i can disagree with any of that particular quote tbh.

[the truth]

every word of this is accurate

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

This is what Enoch Powel said long before some of us were born,1968 ,do you agree with what he said all those years ago,Was he right or was he wrong?

No doubting every word of that has come to fruition. We are living his prediction and many had no say in that. There are many kinds of oppression and that is one of them.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

This is what Enoch Powel said long before some of us were born,1968 ,do you agree with what he said all those years ago,Was he right or was he wrong?

100% Right !!

[JTM45]

Wow...........i hoped i'd never in this day and age see people who call themselves British acting like cheeleaders for such a truly repugnant man!

Our ancestors gave their lives fighting to stop people like him from ever ruling this Country and i'm extremely grateful for that.

Cheer on...........

[Livia]

Originally Posted by JTM45

Wow...........i hoped i'd never in this day and age see people who call themselves British acting like cheeleaders for such a truly repugnant man!

Our ancestors gave their lives fighting to stop people like him from ever ruling this Country and i'm extremely grateful for that.

Cheer on...........

Our ancestors would not have picked up a weapon if they had known what would happen to the country they knew. No one can every talk about immigration without being branded. That's what I find repugnant.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

Our ancestors would not have picked up a weapon if they had known what would happen to the country they knew. No one can every talk about immigration without being branded. That's what I find repugnant.

Hm yes, everyone wanting to have a sensible, reasonable discussion about immigration is "branded". The content of such "discussions" has absolutely nothing to do with it.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Hm yes, everyone wanting to have a sensible, reasonable discussion about immigration is "branded". The content of such "discussions" has absolutely nothing to do with it.

Everyone wanted a sensible discussion and no one listened. And that why we are facing Brexit. That's why the Right is having a bit of a comeback. No one asked whether diversity was what people wanted, it was forced upon the by people who think they're right about everything. Now, no one can speak about it without being branded a racist.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Livia

Everyone wanted a sensible discussion and no one listened. And that why we are facing Brexit. That's why the Right is having a bit of a comeback. No one asked whether diversity was what people wanted, it was forced upon the by people who think they're right about everything. Now, no one can speak about it without being branded a racist.

Indeed - Brexit was what it took to be heard in these politically correct times when, even in the so-called adult world, name-calling is the name of the game and the way to go to shut down unpopular opinions with the left.

Brexit was inevitable and those crying the loudest about it carry a large proportion of the blame.