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View Poll Results: How sorry for Theresa do you feel? | ||||||
Very sorry for her tbh |
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Yes she has had a torrid time |
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A little sorry for her |
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Well it is her job but boy what a month |
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The voice of reason
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Manchester, London Bridge, Brexit, the election, the Grenfell...the list goes on. She has had a terrible time and she has the queens speech thing. She would hardly have any free time or sleep
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Skinny Legend
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I don't
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I do feel for her, but it is all part of the job.
The horrors that have happened this past month or so are heartbreaking for everyone in the country, as they must be for her on a personal level. On top of that it is her job to try and make sure these tragedies never happen again, on top of Brexit, Queen's speech and trying to sort her party out. Very difficult, but it goes with the job. ![]() |
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Likes cars that go boom
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This Witch doesn't burn
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I wouldn't wish what has happened in England in the last month on any leader, losing her majority is the least of her problems now, and anyone that gloats over it when people have died needlessly is pretty sick, I don't think she has handled Grendell particularly well so far
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What an odd thing to say, almost as odd as thinking anyone would have any sympathy for may in relation to recent incidents, ALL my sympathy is for the victims. It's Grenfell btw.
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This Witch doesn't burn
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I do have sympathy because as I said and I repeat no leader in any country should have to deal with what May has had to deal with in the last month, and that has nothing to do with the election which pales in comparison to all the horrors England has heaped on it. The opposition are gloating and trying to make political hay out of a tragedy, shameless really, and i don't doubt the Torys would be doing the same if Corbyn was PM.
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The opposition are not gloating, they are calling for an adequate response which, as yet they have not had. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7794506.html
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Remembering Kerry
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Nothing at all do I feel for her.
I have never thought anything else as to her since coming across her over a decade ago. To me she is a deceiver and false. Even in tragedies she has to be near shamed in coming anywhere close to the needed and right response. Last edited by joeysteele; 17-06-2017 at 12:06 PM. |
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Not really any sympathy at all, when she put herself in this position by wanting to be PM. She should expect mass scrutiny. Cameron had the same level but just dealt with it better, talked himself out of a few holes whereas she just seems to hide or get someone else in the cabinet to deal with it. When he realised he'd ****ed up, he left. She's just desperately gripping onto power and does herself no favours. She doesn't help herself, especially shirking any sort of responsibility by debating and talking to the media when that's one of the first things on the job description. The elections was her fault (granted probably an advisors idea but she agreed to do it). Without *personally* knowing her she seems devoid of any emotion or empathy
I'm not really factoring the last week in because what has happened would be difficult for anyone. But Corbyn getting in amongst the victims and talking, sympathising (and giving out hugs..) while she hides behind a "security" excuse (but then the next day she actually goes and visits victims so that excuse was bull****). Even if you dislike Corbyn you have to admit he's handled this week admirably. Although it probably has to be said he's coming into this as the opposition and not facing the anger of the victims who want answers. It wouldn't have harmed her showing her face the first opportunity she could all the same Last edited by King Gizzard; 17-06-2017 at 11:16 AM. |
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laura carter stan
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I feel a bit sorry for her. Getting called a "murderer" and things is a bit much.
BUT she brings it on herself by never answering questions, not meeting the fire victims and calling an unnecessary election for selfish reasons. Last edited by Greg!; 17-06-2017 at 11:06 AM. |
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Hmm. She saw a little bit of power in sight and she grabbed it with both hands, when she wasn't cut out for the job either professionally (she's just not good at it) or emotionally (she doesn't know how to handle it).
So... Not very sorry. Nothing has happened "to" her that she didn't invite through personal ambition. |
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self-oscillating
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I don't feel sorry for her, its her job, its what she signed up to when she accepted the position.
I can have some sympathy for not being able to please all the people all of the time, particularly when views are so polarised as they are now. Lets not kid ourselves, labour would fare no differently with the current divides in the country. So, I accept that she may have handled things different and its a view held by many, but that doesn't mean its all the people. Its not a competition about who can shout the loudest or the most aggressively |
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I think people who feel sorry for her forget that she can step down at any point. She can actually step down and have her whole party benefit greatly. Its a win/win situation, and shes chooses the weird third option.
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How true this is I don't know, but in such an horrific time for the country it's probably best not to have another leader change with all of these Brexit talks.
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A little sorry for her.Yes she has brought it on herself with the election but the other events she's had to deal with must take there toll.It's not been an easy ride.
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oh fack off
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Not in the slightest. She called this election in an attempt to wipe out all opposition, effectively set up a one-party state, and then enact the cruelest Conservative manifesto for a generation.
Her hubris in thinking she could avoid the electorate at all costs was astounding, refusing to take part in debates, kicking workers out of factories to talk to a handful of her cronies, pretending she was going to go out and 'talk to the voters' when she did anything but (and the time she did it was a disaster). She had the gall to stand on the steps of number ten the morning after without acknowledging the disastrous night they'd had, or apologise to any of her colleagues who lost their seats, instead continuing to pretend all is fine and dandy. And then she refuses to meet the victims of Grenfell when even the Queen can. She is a despicable ****, and deserves all the humiliation and abuse she gets. |
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You don't know what she said to to her colleagues as are not privy to everything she does. She isn't an open book - she doesn't have that kind of nature - but to say she deserves all the humiliation and abuse she gets because she doesn't present her every thought and every feeling on camera is OTT and lacks understanding of different personality types. Emotional hysteria in my opinion. Last edited by Brillopad; 17-06-2017 at 01:53 PM. |
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The voice of reason
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oh fack off
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I find it deplorable that she called this vanity election for no other reason than to crush all opposition in this country. That is the reason it was called, nobody in the EU gave a **** about the size of her parliamentary majority. She did so with a 20 point poll lead and unusually high favourability ratings, thinking she and her party were untouchable - that they could do, say, or avoid anything they like and still be gifted a carte blanche mandate to implement a manifesto that took the piss even out of their core support base. She wanted to be vindicated in dismantling our public services, continuing to sell our NHS off to the highest bidder, making further ideological cuts to the poorest and most vulnerable in our society so that her filthy rich cronies could benefit, ran a negative, vitriolic campaign that concentrated less on what they were offering (which was very little) and more on lying about what the opposition were. The personal attacks, the smears, the 'naked and alone' (which no man would have ever gotten away with saying), the audacity of not costing your policies and then criticising the oppositions for 'not adding up', the avoidance of scrutiny, a campaign led by two bullies (not my words, but those of Tory ministers), the gall of her using Islamic fundamentalism to try and drum up support for revoking hard fought for rights, her continued avoidance of the electorate, the list goes on. This is all, by the way, after she used her inaugural speech last July to attempt to appear like a centrist, moderate Conservative, stressing how she wanted to support the 'just about managing'. The last seven weeks have proven that to be a lie, and exposed her for the power thirsty charlatan that she is. I cannot abide the woman because of what she wanted to do to this country, and I'm expected to express sympathy for someone who cares very little about me or 95% of the population? Not a chance. I didn't like Cameron or his policies, but they were nowhere near as disgusting as she was attempting to get away with, and at the very least at least he was statesmanlike. She is a laughing stock, and rightly so. It couldn't have happened to a more contemptible person. Of course I'm emotionally hysterical, the woman and the current state of her party actually makes my blood boil. Not just figuratively, but literally. And sorry, but with all due respect, I'm not going to be lectured on morality from someone who thinks these kind of policies are supportable. |
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