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BB18 Big Brother 18 UK was shown on Channel 5 in June and July 2017, and was won by Isabelle with Raph second. Discuss the series here.
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Old 13-07-2017, 09:29 PM #1
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So so sly. He has exposed his lack of loyalty tonight.
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The fact that it was Sue he saved is even more surprising.
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The fact that it was Sue he saved is even more surprising.
He saved her because she is no threat to his game
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The fact that it was Sue he saved is even more surprising.
Totally.I was shocked tbh
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Sue has backed him out hroughout too and was by far the least popular of the choices so he helped her out. It's not that deep.
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I think he just thought that Andrew would save her. He thought Sue was being ganged up on a bit and didn't want her to be targetted constantly, especially after the last task.

You could see he was genuinely upset about it and regretted it afterwards, he wasn't sly.
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I think he just thought that Andrew would save her. He thought Sue was being ganged up on a bit and didn't want her to be targetted constantly, especially after the last task.

You could see he was genuinely upset about it and regretted it afterwards, he wasn't sly.
Andrew and Charlotte have CLEARLY stated they're best friends and will be on the outside world so if he has an ounce of social awareness he would've known Andrew would save Charlotte. Lame excuse
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I think he just thought that Andrew would save her. He thought Sue was being ganged up on a bit and didn't want her to be targetted constantly, especially after the last task.

You could see he was genuinely upset about it and regretted it afterwards, he wasn't sly.

Just save your ****ing friends...don't assume anything. Raph has no loyalty to Sue...he picked her because she is no challenge for the ultimate prize.
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Just save your ****ing friends...don't assume anything. Raph has no loyalty to Sue...he picked her because she is no challenge for the ultimate prize.
His reason imo was he knows that he is very likely to go up next week, and he wanted to face Sue knowing that she would easily lose to him.

Chanelle however made it backfire on him as her game was to put up people that would be even more controversial than she is which was a clever strategy from her.

Raph didn't play his cards right tonight, and neither did Ellie.

Deborah's path to victory is being made a whole lot easier.
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His reason imo was he knows that he is very likely to go up next week, and he wanted to face Sue knowing that she would easily lose to him.

Chanelle however made it backfire on him as her game was to put up people that would be even more controversial than she is which was a clever strategy from her.

Raph didn't play his cards right tonight, and neither did Ellie.

Deborah's path to victory is being made a whole lot easier.
Ellie was torn between Sam or Charlotte...she isn't the brightest star. However she wore her heart on her sleeve and voted for her friend. Raphs choice was sheer game playing. You can't blame him for that..it's a game at the end of the day but his fan base is based on his 'nice guy' image and tonight proved he isn't a nice guy but a ruthless gameplayer.
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Ellie was torn between Sam or Charlotte...she isn't the brightest star. However she wore her heart on her sleeve and voted for her friend. Raphs choice was sheer game playing. You can't blame him for that..it's a game at the end of the day but his fan base is based on his 'nice guy' image and tonight proved he isn't a nice guy but a ruthless gameplayer.
BIB, no she was playing the game and decided to keep the one in that won't split votes with her over the one that could (Sam) just because you like Ellie more than Raph doesn't mean that she didn't do the exact same move.
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Just save your ****ing friends...don't assume anything. Raph has no loyalty to Sue...he picked her because she is no challenge for the ultimate prize.
Why is that a bad thing, when the aim is to get to the end and win?

Honestly this decision is the only thing Raph has done that has disappointed me this whole series, so I won't stop supporting him over it.
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Why is that a bad thing, when the aim is to get to the end and win?

Honestly this decision is the only thing Raph has done that has disappointed me this whole series, so I won't stop supporting him over it.
I admire your support for him. His decision may well get him to the final BUT even his loyal fans have seen his gameplay tonight and the 'Mr Nice Guy' has fallen off the pedastal and it will be a kick in the teeth for those that have defended him for being a loyal friend.
I think his loyal followers on here will defend his decision by deflecting blame..he will still be supported.
To me and others he just exposed what we have been saying all along and he may well get to the final but he won't win.
Getting to the final will be an achievement but not winning will be a big failure for Raph.
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Dick move. I cant even understand it from his perspective, and I've been trying.
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Dick move. I cant even understand it from his perspective, and I've been trying.
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Dick move. I cant even understand it from his perspective, and I've been trying.
Like Amy said Withano...she is no threat to his game.
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definitely Andrew's fault I'm afraid, he was sharing a bed with her last night. Guess she wet the bed again, can't explain his betrayal otherwise
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It's not like he isn't friends with Sue

From what we've seen they get on well
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I can't defend that, it was a dick move.

I understand he likes to stick up for those being picked on and he likes Sue, but not at the expense of a closer friend.

I'm glad he is feeling remorse - he should!
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Why didn't Andrew save her?
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Why didn't Andrew save her?
Because he is closer to Charlotte clearly.
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Andrew and Charlotte are best friends why do Raph fans always shift the blame?
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Andrew and Isabelle are not? they share a bed and Isabelle stuck up for him.
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He tried to be crafty and it flopped. Should have just been honest and voted his closest friend like everyone else did.
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