[Nicky91]

for you TeamRaph, now thinking of Charlotte as a self-entitled snob, well i can definitely understand her, she went to a private school, more money than most people, highly educated, and she's not exactly the perfect BB housemate, but i actually am against the EOTB, Geordie Shore, BB unclassy crowd, so i'm a snob as well, and i don't care about any of that


but i first thought Raph to be classy as well, she was right about him, Chanelle is way out of his league, that disappoints me very much about him



i definitely want Charlotte and Raph to meet outside BB, and i think they do have a lot in common, same with Charlotte and Isabelle outside BB i think they can do a lot more together



and i don't find BB that important, all of us outside BB are more important, i just don't want to ruin my friendships with my lovely friends on here over some stupid joke show

[joeysteele]

Raph is more classy than Charlotte because he doesn't let his hand of friendship be reserved for selected people, because of their success or intelligence but gives it to anyone who treats him right.
No judgements,no conditions,that's how all friendships should be,not manufactured.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Raph is more classy than Charlotte because he doesn't let his hand of friendship be reserved for selected people, because of their success or intelligence but gives it to anyone who treats him right.
No judgements,no conditions,that's how all friendships should be,not manufactured.

i'm sorry you feel that way Joey, i can understand your disappointment now, if you want to vote to evict Charlotte i won't stop you or anything, cause for me she just shown her quiet and normal side, and now her more acted villain side


but please think back at how lovely you were thinking of Charlotte when you voted to save her, she was really different back then, doesn't this then feel acted to you

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Raph is more classy than Charlotte because he doesn't let his hand of friendship be reserved for selected people, because of their success or intelligence but gives it to anyone who treats him right.
No judgements,no conditions,that's how all friendships should be,not manufactured.

That isn't what he said in his VT

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

That isn't what he said in his VT

his VT already exposed him

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

That isn't what he said in his VT

Most Vts exaggerate and few live up to their Vts anyway.

Raph's actions have been better than his VT may have suggested.
He has stuck solidly with Chanelle as a friend,always standing up for her in a calm reasoned way.

Charlotte judges class,status and intelligence of like minded people to be the basis of friendship.

Rubbish, who is anyone to say who or why someone should not be friends they've chosen to be with someone.
I keep saying,that's the worst kind of snobbery,pathetic.

I've no time for people who think that way and hey am I glad I don't too.

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Most Vts exaggerate and few live up to their Vts anyway.

Raph's actions have been better than his VT may have suggested.
He has stuck solidly with Chanelle as a friend,always standing up for her in a calm reasoned way.

Charlotte judges class,status and intelligence of like minded people to be the basis of friendship.

Rubbish, who is anyone to say who or why someone should not be friends they've chosen to be with someone.
I keep saying,that's the worst kind of snobbery,pathetic.

I've no time for people who think that way and hey am I glad I don't too.

Well said Joey.
For me friendships should be based on personalities, not intelligence or status.
She is no better than any other housemate, and she certainly is not classy.

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Most Vts exaggerate and few live up to their Vts anyway.

Raph's actions have been better than his VT may have suggested.
He has stuck solidly with Chanelle as a friend,always standing up for her in a calm reasoned way.

Charlotte judges class,status and intelligence of like minded people to be the basis of friendship.

Rubbish, who is anyone to say who or why someone should not be friends they've chosen to be with someone.
I keep saying,that's the worst kind of snobbery,pathetic.

I've no time for people who think that way and hey am I glad I don't too.

He's said himself in his VT and in the house he struggles to befriend and have conversations with people who talk a lot about sex and offer no intellect, no shade at Chanelle but I'm not sure how she's passing his standards.

I think this is what Charlotte was also questioning.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

He's said himself in his VT and in the house he struggles to befriend and have conversations with people who talk a lot about sex and offer no intellect, no shade at Chanelle but I'm not sure how she's passing his standards.

I think this is what Charlotte was also questioning.

Introverted people who find it hard to get themselves heard often gravitate towards loud extroverts like Chanelle, being close with them gets the quiet one noticed by association.
Raph often points out that people have Chenelle wrong, that she is so kind and smart etc, but it could be that he is over - stressing those qualities as an excuse as to why he is such friends with her when he knows many will wonder why his best buddy in there is a type he has said he wouldn't want to befriend.
I like Raph, and of course his friendship with her could be genuine, but just a thought I had.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

He's said himself in his VT and in the house he struggles to befriend and have conversations with people who talk a lot about sex and offer no intellect, no shade at Chanelle but I'm not sure how she's passing his standards.

I think this is what Charlotte was also questioning.

Chanelle may not talk about those things to Raph though.
How do you know she has.

Clearly they have talked a lot together in there that we've never seen or are likely to.
As his defending her to Sue the other night suggested.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Raph is more classy than Charlotte because he doesn't let his hand of friendship be reserved for selected people, because of their success or intelligence but gives it to anyone who treats him right.
No judgements,no conditions,that's how all friendships should be,not manufactured.

Unless you are playing a game of course...where that intelligence is used to mastermind his game plan and choose acquaintances wisely.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Unless you are playing a game of course...where that intelligence is used to mastermind his game plan and choose acquaintances wisely.

They are all playing some sort of game.

However in a house like that most people still need a sounding board,someone to lean on while there.

Raph and Chanelle have clicked since day one really,neither has ever even said a wrong word about the other.

That's no game or pretend in my book.

[Nicky91]

Joey please relax and chill, maybe we should both stop at watching BB


i don't recognize you anymore

[BB-Germany]

I honestly think if one thing about Raph is genuine then is friendship with Chanelle.

In the first week no one could have foreseen that she would become so popular, still he sticked with her.

Time will tell if any friendships are going to last but that is the thing with every friendship people build in certain circumstances. Once they change, most friendships are gone too. Doesn't mean they weren't genuine at the time.

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by BB-Germany

Time will tell if any friendships are going to last but that is the thing with every friendship people build in certain circumstances. Once they change, most friendships are gone too. Doesn't mean they weren't genuine at the time.

That's a really good point about friendships.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

Joey please relax and chill, maybe we should both stop at watching BB


i don't recognize you anymore

I could say that back Nicky.

I'll defend the housemates I've always supported unless they do a great unnecessary that goes against what I stand for or really think.

Raph has not done so, Charlotte just has.
If she was only acting as you try to make out,that is even worse in my.book but I don't think she was acting,this may well be the real Charlotte and it's not nice to see.

In fact it comes across as more jealousy actually that Chanelle has such a close bond with Raph in the house.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I could say that back Nicky.

I'll defend the housemates I've always supported unless they do a great unnecessary that goes against what I stand for or really think.

Raph has not done so, Charlotte just has.
If she was only acting as you try to make out,that is even worse in my.book but I don't think she was acting,this may well be the real Charlotte and it's not nice to see.

In fact it comes across as more jealousy actually that Chanelle has such a close bond with Raph in the house.

yes i definitely want to relax and chill again, and be my normal self


and okay maybe Charlotte did show herself to some people as a rich self-entitled snob

but i just know she has a heart of gold, i just can't see a bully in her i'm sorry

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

Joey please relax and chill, maybe we should both stop at watching BB


i don't recognize you anymore

sorry made me laugh, but yeah for a highly edited tv programme it gets taken too seriously at times.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Cherie

sorry made me laugh, but yeah for a highly edited tv programme it gets taken too seriously at times.

How nice it made you laugh.
I always take BB seriously, if I am going to spend money and time on something then I am entitled to.

Some do some don't,some, in fact most,don't even watch it but BB is what brought me to Tibb in the first place.
So I will watch it and comment on it my way, tongue in cheek or seriously as I please.

[sampvt]

Nothing about raph is genuine. All socially inept people are sceptical and awkward. He is out for himself and if he sees Chantelle on the outside it will be a meeting to benefit him or to boost his profile.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

for you TeamRaph, now thinking of Charlotte as a self-entitled snob, well i can definitely understand her, she went to a private school, more money than most people, highly educated, and she's not exactly the perfect BB housemate, but i actually am against the EOTB, Geordie Shore, BB unclassy crowd, so i'm a snob as well, and i don't care about any of that


but i first thought Raph to be classy as well, she was right about him, Chanelle is way out of his league, that disappoints me very much about him



i definitely want Charlotte and Raph to meet outside BB, and i think they do have a lot in common, same with Charlotte and Isabelle outside BB i think they can do a lot more together



and i don't find BB that important, all of us outside BB are more important, i just don't want to ruin my friendships with my lovely friends on here over some stupid joke show

If people are genuine friends Nicky,you will not lose them just over a housemate you support that they don't, I am friends with Chuff on here,we often have different favourites,but we never fall out over it,infact we laugh over it, it's a bit immature falling out with people just because they don't agree with you,afterall it would be a bad show if we all liked the same people.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

If people are genuine friends Nicky,you will not lose them just over a housemate you support that they don't, I am friends with Chuff on here,we often have different favourites,but we never fall out over it,infact we laugh over it, it's a bit immature falling out with people just because they don't agree with you,afterall it would be a bad show if we all liked the same people.

i really hope you're right

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

i really hope you're right

I am,listen to your Auntie kaz

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

i really hope you're right

Of course. We're just discussing housemates. I know we get protective about our favourites. But no need to fall out over it.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Of course. We're just discussing housemates. I know we get protective about our favourites. But no need to fall out over it.